Execution

Was Saddams execution a good idea?

  • Hell yeah!!!!!

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • No it was a bad thing

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • undecided

    Votes: 4 33.3%

  • Total voters
    12

Pliskin095

Well-Known Member
The Execution of Saddam Hussein

I wanted to start this thread soely to hear others opinions on the execution of Saddam Hussein

Personally i don't think it was the best solution for the problem, but this is only my opinion and i know others will totally disagree with me but thats the great thing about free speech. Anyway as we all know Saddam was a dictator here's a short list of his crimes :-

Anfal Campaign

Officially from February 23 to September 6, 1988 (but often thought to extend from March 1987 to May 1989), Saddam Hussein's regime carried out the Anfal (Arabic for "spoils") campaign against the large Kurdish population in northern Iraq. The purpose of the campaign was ostensibly to reassert Iraqi control over the area; however, the real goal was to permanently eliminate the Kurdish problem.
The campaign consisted of eight stages of assault, where up to 200,000 Iraqi troops attacked the area, rounded up civilians, and razed villages. Once rounded up, the civilians were divided into two groups: men from ages of about 13 to 70 and women, children, and elderly men. The men were then shot and buried in mass graves. The women, children, and elderly were taken to relocation camps where conditions were deplorable. In a few areas, especially areas that put up even a little resistance, everyone was killed. Hundreds of thousands of Kurds fled the area, yet it is estimated that up to 182,000 were killed during the Anfal campaign. Many people consider the Anfal campaign an attempt at genocide.

Chemical Weapons Against Kurds

As early as April 1987, the Iraqis used chemical weapons to remove Kurds from their villages in northern Iraq during the Anfal campaign. It is estimated that chemical weapons were used on approximately 40 Kurdish villages, with the largest of these attacks occurring on March 16, 1988 against the Kurdish town of Halabja.
Beginning in the morning on March 16, 1988 and continuing all night, the Iraqis rained down volley after volley of bombs filled with a deadly mixture of mustard gas and nerve agents on Halabja. Immediate effects of the chemicals included blindness, vomiting, blisters, convulsions, and asphyxiation. Approximately 5,000 women, men, and children died within days of the attacks. Long-term effects included permanent blindness, cancer, and birth defects. An estimated 10,000 lived, but live daily with the disfigurement and sicknesses from the chemical weapons. Saddam Hussein's cousin, Ali Hassan al-Majid was directly in charge of the chemical attacks against the Kurds, earning him the epithet, "Chemical Ali.

Invasion of Kuwait
On August 2, 1990, Iraqi troops invaded the country of Kuwait. The invasion was induced by oil and a large war debt that Iraq owed Kuwait. The six-week, Persian Gulf War pushed Iraqi troops out of Kuwait in 1991. As the Iraqi troops retreated, they were ordered to light oil wells on fire. Over 700 oil wells were lit, burning over one billion barrels of oil and releasing dangerous pollutants into the air. Oil pipelines were also opened, releasing 10 million barrels of oil into the Gulf and tainting many water sources. The fires and the oil spill created a huge environmental disaster.


Shiite Uprising & the Marsh Arabs

At the end of the Persian Gulf War in 1991, southern Shiites and northern Kurds rebelled against Hussein's regime. In retaliation, Iraq brutally suppressed the uprising, killing thousands of Shiites in southern Iraq.
As supposed punishment for supporting the Shiite rebellion in 1991, Saddam Hussein's regime killed thousands of Marsh Arabs, bulldozed their villages, and systematically ruined their way of life. The Marsh Arabs had lived for thousands of years in the marshlands located in southern Iraq until Iraq built a network of canals, dykes, and dams to divert water away from the marshes. The Marsh Arabs were forced to flee the area, their way of life decimated. By 2002, satellite images showed only 7 to 10 percent of the marshlands left. Saddam Hussein is blamed for creating an environmental disaster.

That being only a minority of the crimes commited while he was in power, understandably i think that the guy was a colossal arsehole but the point i'm getting to is that i don't think he should have been executed (not that i'm into all that soft second chance shit).

The reason i think he shouldn't have been executed is simply because of how fragile the situation in iraq is. Bush knew that there would be an uproar when he was executed as illustrated by the following pics, but look at it from the iraqis point of view Imagine if 2 foreign leaders (Blair & Bush) came and attacked your country in the hope of finding osoma bin laden who they knew was in afganistan anyway, then started taking your natural resources (The oil fields) and using it for their own gain (namely in my opinion to fund the war they were starting because oil is known to be a very valuble resource and whats the point in spending your tax payers money when you could just as easily take it from iraq and sell it world wide making a nice fat sum of cash in the process) then telling you (the iraqis) that it was all for your own good.

So not only have we brits and yanks pissed off afganistan by bombing them looking for bin laden but then went into iraq after some nuclear weapons that didn't even exist and then to top it off we execute iraqs leader who was a muslim as was bin laden along with the rest of the countries population,
leaving us more prone to attacks from within our own countries.

Considering that there are more muslims than any other religious group on the planet i don't think it was a smart move to execute Saddam, while we are invading their country because its made our soldiers,leaders,countries and even us members of the public in the west more of a hated figure to the middle east, thus making the situation go from bad to worse, i can really see the shits gonna hit the fan soon.

i think he should have been kept confined in a maximum security prison until the situation had calmed down instead of making it worse.

anyways lets hear your opinions on the matter and thanks for reading my rant lol.

Heres that pic i was on about anyway


:joint: :peace: :joint:
 

ViRedd

New Member
The execution brought closure for many of Saddam's victims. It also sends a message to other dictators throughout the world. Are the leaders of Syria, Iran and Pajama Boy in N. Korea next?

Vi
 

Pliskin095

Well-Known Member
The execution brought closure for many of Saddam's victims. It also sends a message to other dictators throughout the world. Are the leaders of Syria, Iran and Pajama Boy in N. Korea next?

Vi
i know what you mean about the closure, but what do you think is worse being executed or spending the rest of your life in a maximum security prison?
With the execution its over straight away but being in prison for the rest of your life having all your rights taken away and being locked in a cell for the majority of the time is surely a worse punishment????? to be honest i would rather be executed than being locked away for the rest of my life.
:joint:
 

ViRedd

New Member
The only appropriate punishment for the likes of Saddam, would be to let the father of a child victim into the cell with a baseball bat for about 30 minutes. I feel the same about child rapists and murderers too.

Vi
 

Pliskin095

Well-Known Member
The only appropriate punishment for the likes of Saddam, would be to let the father of a child victim into the cell with a baseball bat for about 30 minutes. I feel the same about child rapists and murderers too.

Vi
On that note i think they should get a few ron jeremy kinda guys in the cell to take it in turns to butt fuck Saddam without the choice of any lube lol turn his ring piece into an inferno and then tell him to sit on a bed of nails afterwards hahahaha :mrgreen:
 

ViRedd

New Member
Naw ... he'd enjoy that. How about vise grips and blow torch ... start with the big toe and work yer way up.

Vi
 

Bigbud

Well-Known Member
Sack That Camera Guy......

I think that was an easy way to go...Considering all the HURT and PAIN he has caused to so many MANY people... I think though they should have done it a different way...One that would have taken longer just to let him feel what its like to die in pain like all thoughs people did.

But for even someone like him I can not even imagine what it would be like to know in less the 60 seconds you will be dead and there is nothing you can do or say to stop it
 

norton

Active Member
I totaly agree on the easy way out thing! Should have locked him in a glass box after injectin him with anthrax & botulism!! Piece of history gone wrong the thing that bothers me is they will b teaching our kids this shit in school all twisted up just like with Hitler in20-50 years!Dont believe me check out the shit on the illuminatti on U tube you will b amazed at some of this shit!Check out the short films 10 mins & under there is some really weird shit on them & the freemasons!!THAT NEW AMERICAN 20 DOLLAR BILL SHIT FREAKS ME OUT MAN!AND THE BUSH FAMILY WHOA EH!I HAD NO IDEA THAT SHIT WENT BACK THAT FAR!For all I know those vids may b gone saw em 3months ago!
 

Dr Marijane

Active Member
And you call that short! lol

That is what Hitler deserved, to bad we didn't get the chance. Saddam should have rotted in a prison. But then again that would of been like living in a holiday Inn in the USA!
 

Chronic_Productionz

Well-Known Member
Everyone has to understand that in Iraq death by hanging to someone like Saddam was the most humiliation you can get. He begged and pleaded not to hang him like as he said a "Common criminal". The whole baseball bat/ blow torch. While funny and I would take a part in, it's cruel and unusual punishment. If Saddam was killed in an unruley mannor Iraq and U.S.A. would be doing exactly what Saddam was doing which is the reason we tok him out.

hmmmmmmm
 

Chronic_Productionz

Well-Known Member
Noron what videos are you talking about on Youtube??? I found a lot of shit about 9/11..

Like saying the WHOLE THING was planned by the USA... Think about this.. The world trade center changed ownership 1 month before 9/11. When the new owner got ahold of it he ADDED Airline Insurance. Which ment if an airplane hit the building they'd be covered by insurance...

I saw 3 different videos of surrounding buildings collapsing... If you look around the buildings you will notice tiny explosions going up the side... You also see this a little bit on one of the tower videos.

The pentageon is believe to not me hit by a plane but a missle... For either testing or other reasons.. No plane was recovered the only engine they fond was TOO small to be from the plane that was said to have crashed... Whatever did hit the building went too far into the building to be a plane. there was NO skid marks on the ground. at the angle it hit if it was that big plane there would be marks on the ground after it hit..... Nothing. ALSO that part of the building was under construction.... It was being reinforced for bomb and airplane attacks... (on site testing??)

Not sure what to believe it sounds to me that some people most likely government needed money since we're soooo in debt... Or SOMETHING so set up this whole thing for money and to have a reason to go over to IRAQ... And you wanna know something I think it's all Bush because he wanted to FINISH what his dad started... He wanted to be the big hero the best president in his mind....

Also 1998 U.S. had constant watch on Bin Laden we knew exactly where he was until 9/11... How is it we suddenly lost him? A BUUUH!
 

nongreenthumb

Well-Known Member
I couldn't believe how quickly he was executed, all seems a bit fishy to me. We dont have the death sentance here in the uk but from what I know about it usually the condemned has a certain amount of time for appeals seeing as the punishment is irreversable. It seems to me that people wanted him gone as quick as possible, this seems really fishy for me. Like he knew things that could be detrimental to people so he was taken out as quick as possible. Its all very well for us to believe what we see in newspapers and on the television, but this information is always controlled for what they want you to see and know. The "average joe" will never really know the real reasons for all that has happened, we are told what they want us to know as a measure of control so we keep working as batteries to serve the rich so they can have a toilet roll or a set of glasses or whatever job you are in. Everything else is set in place so that we null our brains and carry on without asking questions.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Noron what videos are you talking about on Youtube??? I found a lot of shit about 9/11..

Like saying the WHOLE THING was planned by the USA... Think about this.. The world trade center changed ownership 1 month before 9/11. When the new owner got ahold of it he ADDED Airline Insurance. Which ment if an airplane hit the building they'd be covered by insurance...

I saw 3 different videos of surrounding buildings collapsing... If you look around the buildings you will notice tiny explosions going up the side... You also see this a little bit on one of the tower videos.

The pentageon is believe to not me hit by a plane but a missle... For either testing or other reasons.. No plane was recovered the only engine they fond was TOO small to be from the plane that was said to have crashed... Whatever did hit the building went too far into the building to be a plane. there was NO skid marks on the ground. at the angle it hit if it was that big plane there would be marks on the ground after it hit..... Nothing. ALSO that part of the building was under construction.... It was being reinforced for bomb and airplane attacks... (on site testing??)

Not sure what to believe it sounds to me that some people most likely government needed money since we're soooo in debt... Or SOMETHING so set up this whole thing for money and to have a reason to go over to IRAQ... And you wanna know something I think it's all Bush because he wanted to FINISH what his dad started... He wanted to be the big hero the best president in his mind....

Also 1998 U.S. had constant watch on Bin Laden we knew exactly where he was until 9/11... How is it we suddenly lost him? A BUUUH!
Interesting ... So, you have proof of what you speak?

Vi
 

norton

Active Member
Hey chronic, the stuff on bush is in the archives under the "freemasons or skull and bones society" you will also find rhe stuff on the "illuminatti" very Interesting!I checked and it is still there.The video i refer too is 4mins long and carries the tag illuminatti and is by a group calling themselves the "dragon crux project" The stuff on the freemasons is also very interesting as they are a secret society and are throughout the world in all levels of society and government just found out about this shit last year and I am 40 yrs myself!There is a tonne of info on the WTC and why it happenend. Did youknow the ENRON scam's documents and evidance implicating all those involved were on site in a vault in the WTC(world trade centre) also have u seen the footage of the UFO seen at the WTC shortly bfore the incedent? All this shit is on Utube but you have to look for it under keywords all those above will get u acces I am pretty sure.I spent the whole day in my room checkin this shit out when I found out about it that 1,4min video changed my entire view on politics and pretty much my life just by seeing it!Thank GOD for freedom of speech!But they will probably try and change that too!peace bro.
 

Chronic_Productionz

Well-Known Member
Oooh,

that's cool as hell man. It's good I get this knowledge at my young at so I know how to make political choices when I get older... well now I'm old enough to vote almost 20 couple more days woo haha.. anyways I have NO IDEA the Enron file were in there... Never heard anything about a UFO either... See I believe there are aliens.. because there's so many solar systems and glaxies why would only OUR planet be habited? They might be human they may not.. But I'm not sure about Earth UFO's I think they'd make more of a contact with credable people rather than picking up a drunk hick and anal probing him.......

but thanks I'll look into it!
 
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