Exhale Co2 Bags?

RavenMochi said:

Yea, enough...both of you, no new info in 2 pages, probably 3, neither one of you will EVER change they're mind, so whats the point again? proving your right? That excuse only works for women. Jim, I have no idea what you have to gain by trying so desperately to prove him wrong, but if you really want to prove your point, do just that PROVE it. Do a side by side, one using a bag or whatever method of co2 your using, the other with the seltzer. Since you seem to KNOW your right, only feed two the seltzer and compare the results side by side. So far we've heard nothing from you but opinion. Fact is what is required here, your opponent has given sources. SOURCES. not opinion, if your going to keep arguing, for the love of God, please, please just find a source to back you up rather than relying on your opinion. Your opinion is gold only to you, to everyone else its a mystery metal, that could very well just be painted foil. And not just yours, anyone's opinion. To put in in the words of Robert H. Heinlein, "If it cannot be expressed in numbers, its not fact, its opinion" So....where are our numbers?

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I said what I had too I challenged him to try it out himself, there is very little co2 in seltzer there is more in soda and it wouldn't be very cost effective to use seltzer as a means of supplementing co2. You could provide more co2 by breathing on your plants for the same time it would take to go to the store and get seltzer you will save time, money, and gas.

I think you seem to miss what my main point is, never ever did I try and say that the co2 in seltzer wouldn't provide the plant with the food it needs. I am simply saying that this isn't a effective way of providing co2 and nutrients to a plant.

His articles were crap I dont have to waist my time explaining this anymore, any one out there doubt me buy a bottle of sprite and a bottle of seltzer put a balloon on top of both bottles and see which gets larger.

You can find anything on the internet if it was so ground breaking dont you think it would be widely passed along and used.

My whole goal is too help people out, not to tell people to waist money on seltzer because it will provide the necessary amount of co2 a plant needs.

No where in any of his articles did he talk about the PPM of co2 in seltzer or compare to what is in the air naturally nor did he discuss how much co2 a human can create in 30 minutes of breathing.

“How much C02 do we each breathe out?”

March 30, 2007 by reddees

Dr Nick Riley calculated it like this:
From spirometry measurements (National Lung Health Education Programme), assuming that about 450ml/min of CO2 are expired per person per minute – this means the net CO2 respired (CO2 produced by respiration) is around 400ml/min
1g of CO2 has a volume of 556ml. Therefore 400ml has weight of 0.72g. Therefore in 1 hour the net CO2 released is 0.72 X 60=43.2g
One day is 43.2 X 24=1036g or 1.036kg.
One year is 1.036 X 365= 378.332Kg or 0.378332 metric tonnes
If the global population is 6.5bn this comes to a total weight of 2.459158000Gt.
For comparison the total world emissions of CO2 from human activity (excluding respiration) is around 27Gt. Of which the per capita average emissions are for a each citizen as follows:
USA 5.4 tonnes/person/annum
UK 2.59
China 0.6
India 0.3
This was Taken from BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/homeplanet_20060117.shtml
I happend to see this interesting calculation and thought of sharing.

So have fun saying I dont know what im talking about because I dont have articles, well guess what I dont need articles because this shit is so simple to understand no one should waist time arguing with me.

I hope you waist lots of money on seltzer cause thats all your doing.

I heard grinding up truffles and adding them to your soil will give you huge buds, is this better than telling people not to buy seltzer and waist their money?

Hey guys just read a article that foliar feeding with crystal provides trace elements and some co2 about the same as I would produce breathing for 15 minutes.

I dont have a article but believe me its fuckin worth it.

Not to add fuel to the fire but check this old video out, forward it to around 6:50...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Ri90tlhM8&feature=related

topchoice617 said:

Not to add fuel to the fire but check this old video out, forward it to around 6:50...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Ri90tlhM8&feature=related

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And there ya go. Someone getting paid for sharing their expertise on video. I'm sure ol Jimbo still thinks he is right. I suggest people try it out for themselves. It is cheap and it does benefit the plant. The dude in the video uses O2 AND mists with "bubbly" water. (seltzer)

Thanks for sharing Top choice!

I've been using these bags since the beginning of my first grow (3 weeks into flower now) Can't really say if they work or not though... The company that makes them is only a few miles from me so they're much cheaper here (I think I paid $12 per bag) I do recommend them if you don't want to pay the money for a co2 system. Both hydro stores here love them and they fly off the shelves.

I have the exhale bag that my local hydro store gave me because he thought it was deflating. I put it on top of my ballast for a few houirs and ***poof*** it went to work. my plants seem to like it.

Very Simple!

Looks fun. I love the whole idiot vs scientist style of argument. It is initially fun to read but it does get old quick.

Someone should test this with a ppm monitor to see the levels of co2 per size of room with the exhale bag. I would be a little worried about small rooms getting too much co2. Anyone know offhand what too much co2 is?


I also like how people take the term ignorant as such an insult. I mean it's just referring to something not yet learned. What is so bad about that? As much as I learn here I am still ignorant on many aspects of growing.

I told this girl she was ignorant once. That turned ugly really quick haha

i think jim sells bags, and serapis sells seltzer water for a living...

lol!

has anyone done a scientific monitoring of these ExHale Bags yet? What kind of levels are you getting under the lights? Do they last as long as they say? Are they effective?

what about salt content? Isn't seltzer loaded with salt? I was told by my physician to avoid it because it raises blood pressure due to salt content. Wouldn't this be harmful to the ladies?

Arent you a little late?

jimbizzzale67123 said:

They are 25 bucks each and they come activated so u have to use them immediately, They have a PPM rating on their website but who knows if its legit. I am going to buy one and see if it works, they are pretty inexpensive for how long they last.

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How long did your bag produce CO2? And could you tell how many months it kept producing?

kaloaina said:

How long did your bag produce CO2? And could you tell how many months it kept producing?

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The produce for a good 3 months, it says 6 but i doubt that lol. I buy em, hang em, let them chill for 3 or so months then i get new ones to replace. They are good for closet, espically if you dont have anyway to add a real co2 system, but in a 10x10 room i use 3 bags and next time im just gana get a real co2 tank as i could have bought one by now with how much ive spent over past year on co2 bags lol

I bet you could throw 2 of these exhale bags in a spent CO2 boost bucket instead of buying the refill. This could enable timed/directed release.

Does anybody know what species and strain of fungi they use?

half hour of reading & all i got was reading arguments, WTF everyone arguying about we are supposed to be helping each other ffs, still no actual proven results on the bags, i was hoping someone would of had a ppm meter in there with a bag, oh & the seltzer water DOES work, not saying it's any kind of replacement for anything, but, if you do not have the luxury of a c02 tank, it certainly is a cheap way to help, & btw i use walfarts sodium free selzer water, only use it in veg period & i also add 1 drop of superthrive in there & spray them once a day as lights come on, i did this for 4 days as an experiment to myself, i got 3 TD on the go, on 1 plant i sprayed, other 2 i left alone, well the 1 i sprayed took off & outgrew the other 2, not claiming any science or anything before you all start arguying, just saying it helped my grow, so i continue to use it, why the fuk everyone arguying we all after the same results, share the love & knowladge & leave the bs & arguying for drunks & crackheads.

oh & wasn't the thread about the exhale co2 bags ???


just my 2 cents

I wouldn't mind more info on the exhale bags myself.

If your using a co2 bag you probably dont have the cash for a PPM meter. at least i dont anyway, if i did have a PPM meter i would have CO2 tank not stupid bags. They WORK dont get me wrong but i dont think its really equal to a co2 tank, and for the first 2 weeks they dont emit much co2 at all until all the fungi and bacteria start to grow and produce co2. they dont put out a constant amount more start low, middle high, and after a couple month they start to not produce anymore, you can tell by the bag and and look of the crap inside.