Extreme Defoliation...

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Boatguy said:
Post 501 is a pretty good example
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It's not a good example, do you know how to correctly Defoliation?
look back at post 501
Each top bud site has a set of fan leaves, the plant needs this set of fan leaves and must not be removed.
This will collect all the light for this bud site. as you go down the shoot, you have lower bud sites and fan leaves, removing the fan leaf adjacent to the bud site will slow the bud/shoot growth, you can use the fan leaves to control the stretch/growth.
at the same time do it wrong and you can really mess the plant up, looks like samwell has done it right.
 
Markshomegrown said:
It's not a good example, do you know how to correctly Defoliation?
look back at post 501
Each top bud site has a set of fan leaves, the plant needs this set of fan leaves and must not be removed.
This will collect all the light for this bud site. as you go down the shoot, you have lower bud sites and fan leaves, removing the fan leaf adjacent to the bud site will slow the bud/shoot growth, you can use the fan leaves to control the stretch/growth.
at the same time do it wrong and you can really mess the plant up, looks like samwell has done it right.
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It was just an example of 90% leaf removal
 
mudballs said:
I would call ruderalis determinate, that's it though.
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How so? My indeterminate tomatoes set fruit and ripen from the bottom up and continue to do so as long as they are able. What cannabis does one harvest from the bottom up? And what strain continues to set bud whilst being trimmed of bud? Why isn't all cannabis classified as determinate?
 
shnkrmn said:
How so? My indeterminate tomatoes set fruit and ripen from the bottom up and continue to do so as long as they are able. What cannabis does one harvest from the bottom up? And what strain continues to set bud whilst being trimmed of bud? Why isn't all cannabis classified as determinate?
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Ever have a tomato hermie ?
Also I can water weed from top down
Try that on tomatoes and let the rot begin
 
It's not really fair to call photoperiodic plants determinate or indeterminate, since their growth cycle is driven by photoperiodism rather than plant size. In nature they appear to be determinate based on seasonality, however this can be manipulated with supplemental or indoor lighting.
 
shnkrmn said:
How so? My indeterminate tomatoes set fruit and ripen from the bottom up and continue to do so as long as they are able. What cannabis does one harvest from the bottom up? And what strain continues to set bud whilst being trimmed of bud? Why isn't all cannabis classified as determinate?
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And tomatoes aren’t the only ones that have these distinctions. Potatoes, cucumbers, and beans are among the edible crops that also exhibit determinate or indeterminate growth habits among different cultivars

our equivalent is our ruderalis and non-ruderalis cultivars.
Our photoperiods can reveg, so the determinate aspect of flowering clusters stopping vegetative growth is null i feel.

indeterminate varieties have growing tips that end in leaves; determinate tomatoes have growing tips that end in flower clusters, and eventually fruit – there’s that self-pruning gene showing up.

We're not taxonomy experts qualified to arbitrarily classify cannabis i dont think...i cant find where its been stated as such by anyone besides us.
Yes you may argue about the non-perpetual fruit setting, but i think reveg also confronts this adequately.
  • Determinate plants grow to a certain point, and then stop, with a shorter stature overall.
The above, in my opinion, is our ruderalis
a determinate tomato plant has a self-pruning gene. The effects of this gene show up in the plant’s growing tip or shoot.
our plants dont have this, but our ruderalis exhibits this well enough i feel. It has genes that says grow to xx maturity then stop and set fruit.
Our photos dont. Thats my side so far from an hour or so looking into it.
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