Eye Hortilux vs SunPulse - "High Times" says Hortilux=DEATH

Fonzarelli said:

Those h150 kessils are not the greatest in quality for the price they ask. Make sure you find them for around $170 if you are able. They shouldn't be more than $100 each IMO.

If you can do it yourself for the red LEDs it's the cheaper route.

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GOT A PLACE FOR $120 WITH FREE SHIPPING...and from this disappointing cmh news I will be having to get them soon....will also look to get at least 3 more sets as that will last years and years

I got two Kessil 350's, one purple and the other magenta.

They should add good stuff to my 600W HPS.

Very interesting, if contentious, thread!

JD

I've been begging Kessil to make a H350 Red because the liquid cooled sinks on those are so nice they do not heat up one bit. The H150s get so hot you can't touch them. Also, I'm sick of having to use multiple sets of wires and drivers to power all the H150s. It would be nice to only have to use 2 H350s if they were the same spectrum as their h150 Reds. They told me there wouldn't be enough demand, but they are wrong.

Fonzarelli said:

I've been begging Kessil to make a H350 Red because the liquid cooled sinks on those are so nice they do not heat up one bit. The H150s get so hot you can't touch them. Also, I'm sick of having to use multiple sets of wires and drivers to power all the H150s. It would be nice to only have to use 2 H350s if they were the same spectrum as their h150 Reds. They told me there wouldn't be enough demand, but they are wrong.

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Honestly though, you can get by with their Magenta H350. I just measured one at the grow store the other day and the amount of blue wavelengths in them is insignificant. And for anyone wondering the wavelengths used in the Magenta H350 are 420nm, 455nm, 630nm, 660nm. The blue to red ratio looks to be something like 1:10, or even higher. The blue was VERY insignificant.

I have had some AMAZING results with the 1000w Hortilux Blue combined with 4 x Kessil H150 Reds, but when I did the SA on the Hortilux Blue 1000w I was a little disappointed to see the whopping green spike in the middle. Proportionately there is much much much more green in the 1000w compared to the 400w. See for yourself,
1000w Horti blue SA,

In the 400w version the green spike is almost equal to all the other peaks. I do not have that graph loaded on my pc without the combined Kessil spectrum so here is the combined 400w with 128w h150 red,


Here is what the combined spectrum looks like when the 128w of H150 reds are paired with the 1000w Horti Blue,


Notice how the Green peak still totally dominates over the entire spectrum.

I want to point out that these Spectral Analysis measurements are RELATIVE INTENSITY so that is why the peaks on the 1000w graph seem so much shorter compared to the 400w. Reason being the whole graph has to accommodate for the GIANT green peak in the 1000w. The graphs show how the peaks WITHIN the spectrum relate to each other. Just to clear it up because I'm sure there will be a few out there wondering. LOL

Im still pretty new here but ill just add my expierence, we have swiched our room up a couple times this past year and the set up now seems to work great. We veg with t5's and a 400w Hortilux blue which has always worked great for us. In flower we have 6 lights in pairs from back to front. The girls start under 2 400w blues, in the middle of the room we have a 600w and 1000w hps and to finish we have a 1000w Hortilux blue and Hps. I really believe that the combination of both lights and spectrums are giving us better results than just running hps in flower. The only swich I can see us make is taking out the 600w hps in the middle of room for the 1000w hps at the finish and replacing that with another 1000w Hortilux blue making the plants start under the blue, moving to hps then back into blue. There are many more factors though, genetics, nutes, soil vs soilless vs hydro. Just hope the more legal it becomes the more actual studies will be done to help us sift through all this bs.

Wow this amazing. Some actual real scientific data here. I'm glad someone has finally done this, and I would love to see a real spectral reading for the Solis-Tek 10k!

Horti blues are fucking dope for sure. $100 more dope??? Not to us because we but A LOT of light bulbs.

I have been running 80 horti 1k in digital ballasts for a year.. we have had one failure.

If your popping bulbs it's your ballast, not the bulb.