F3 Valley Ice. (Matanuska x SFV OG)

Farmer's Hat

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kush is a great strain-- well known for rodelizing
lineage contributes a lot, and getting to know a plant is fun!
your buds look great man i'm having a great time following along! very exciting harvest if I were u I'd be so hyped!
Thanks. Im pretty happy with the results. It was fairly easy and low maintenance. The bud isn't that different from the crop I grew in the greenhouse. The indoor bud structure is a little more dense, other than that im not noticing any differences.

At the moment I have more pounds of flower than I can possibly use. I smoke once or twice a month! Im very intentional about those days. When I was young I use to light up a joint every single day! :weed:


I gave half a pound of trim to my friend, for Xmas. :bigjoint:
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Star Dog

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I like some kush it's a great smoke, I've grown a couple one wasn't anything to write home about besides an exceptional yeilder (200g wasn't difficult) the other I've still got it has a pledge furniture polish smell or maybe wd40 if you're not old enough to remember 80s lemon pledge lol

I did think if I need to go down the sts route for blockbuster I'll also be hitting that kush with it.
 

Farmer's Hat

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Depends on the kush if you mean Hindu as in like sensi seeds one then yes but there are literally so many different types of true Hindu kush some will be more stable than others it's just the sensi one most know for the monecy trait I think bud
Im pretty sure the SFV OG doesn't throw bananas. Ive been growing these two strains for a while, and ive never seen the OG do it once.
@Nizza The rhodelization gene is 100% from the MTF. That strain has some ruderalis in the gene pool.
 

conor c

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Im pretty sure the SFV OG doesn't throw bananas. Ive been growing these two strains for a while, and ive never seen the OG do it once.
@Nizza The rhodelization gene is 100% from the MTF. That strain has some ruderalis in the gene pool.
Yeah but if you S1 it it will proly be in there in at least some of em as sensis Hindu is supposed to be one of the ogs parents so it's just recessive in this case
 

Farmer's Hat

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I like some kush it's a great smoke, I've grown a couple one wasn't anything to write home about besides an exceptional yeilder (200g wasn't difficult) the other I've still got it has a pledge furniture polish smell or maybe wd40 if you're not old enough to remember 80s lemon pledge lol

I did think if I need to go down the sts route for blockbuster I'll also be hitting that kush with it.
I understand. Ive grown some robust plants that produced massive yields, but they seem to always lack potency. I dont mind having some low thc flower every now and then.

I have some SFV OG seeds that I will be testing next year. The SFV OG clones I just threw into the flower tent will be good test subjects. That plant got massive in the greenhouse. Curious to see how she does indoors.

If it does well indoors, I have plans to make some S1 fems with my SFV OG cut. I will give the seeds away for free to growers who want to be participate in a community journal.
 

conor c

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Hey bud do you have a seed bank that you recommend for these and in fems if possible
Sensis or Nirvana's Hindu is good but just know the possibility of monecy is there regardless it's worth running and the good phenos are pretty hard to beat I love that hashy gingery sandalwoody kushy taste myself some hate it suppose it depends on you just remember this is an heirloom you want real deal raw less worked kush id look at Kwik seeds if you do run sensis or Nirvana's just know that it likes the dirt a bit dry Vs some ime not a strain that likes overly wet soil another cheap nice one is spliff seeds nl does a nice Afghan kush regs only though with that tho the female ghani they do got skunk in it the reg one doesn't
 
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Dboybudz

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Sensis or Nirvana's Hindu is good but just know the possibility of monecy is there regardless it's worth running and the good phenos are pretty hard to beat I love that hashy gingery sandalwoody kushy taste myself some hate it suppose it depends on you just remember this is an heirloom you want real deal raw less worked kush id look at Kwik seeds if you do run sensis or Nirvana's just know that it likes the dirt a bit dry Vs some ime not a strain that likes overly wet soil another cheap nice one is spliff seeds nl does a nice Afghan kush regs only though with that tho the female ghani they do got skunk in it the reg one doesn't
Yea that the taste and smell I want, being dry I guess won't hold up for outdoors probably in my climate I don't know what latitude I'm at but weather gets rainy here in September and could get a few days storms in summer. Have to only indoor these most likely. I gotta a bubba Kush only one seed im dying to pop unsure how will do outside some unknown seed bank. Sorry @Farmer's Hat for rambling on your thread ;)
 

conor c

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Yea that the taste and smell I want, being dry I guess won't hold up for outdoors probably in my climate I don't know what latitude I'm at but weather gets rainy here in September and could get a few days storms in summer. Have to only indoor these most likely. I gotta a bubba Kush only one seed im dying to pop unsure how will do outside some unknown seed bank. Sorry @Farmer's Hat for rambling on your thread ;)
Might still be worth a bash I've seen some pull em off outdoors in a good year here in the uk so I wouldn't completely write em off but being a kush they do prefer it a bit drier ideally
 

Dboybudz

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Might still be worth a bash I've seen some pull em off outdoors in a good year here in the uk so I wouldn't completely write em off but being a kush they do prefer it a bit drier ideally
Well great to know I'll just mix a batch with extra perlite and try see how she does, thanks
 

Dboybudz

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@conor c & @Dboybudz Its all good. Ive run Sensi genetics, and I like their stuff. Never ran their Hindu though. Maybe I will get a pack when I stock up with some of their seeds. I really want to run their Durban Poison again. It did well in this climate.
Yea we did Durban couple years ago outside was a great pheno not the best seedbank tho but great in yield, taste,and. Potency.
 

conor c

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@conor c & @Dboybudz Its all good. Ive run Sensi genetics, and I like their stuff. Never ran their Hindu though. Maybe I will get a pack when I stock up with some of their seeds. I really want to run their Durban Poison again. It did well in this climate.
Some of the best stuff I've smoked came from there seeds mind you most of that is old stuff but there Hindu kush is still one of there decent ones to this day imo and it isn't so expensive either Vs some of there other ones
 

Farmer's Hat

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I did some cleaning today. Decided to kill the Valley Ice pheno #2. It produced less than pheno #1, and there isn't a difference between the two in any other way. I originally kept a cut from pheno #2 because the plant had an amazing foxtailing flower structure when it was growing in the greenhouse. Its obvious now that it was nothing more than an environmental factor which caused the foxtailing.
The root mass of the mother is way more dense than the root mass of the clones I recently harvested. This observation reassured me that 1gl pots are large enough to flower small plants. (Pic below demonstrates the difference.)
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An update on the recent graft. The branch is looking much sturdier and is pushing new growth. The scar is rather odd looking. It seems only one side of the cleft graft actually bonded. The other side has a gap that will eventually grow into each other.
I will try to graft an SFV OG cutting again, after this graft looks stronger. I will be trying a different grafting method. A cleft graft doesn't seem very effective for cannabis.
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I now have a little more space to work with. It was feeling crammed with 4 mothers. I will kill the deep purple mother, once the graft is strong and pushing lots of growth. I will have only one mother, with multiple strains grafted onto it. Im considering doing the same thing for the males. :blsmoke: That would make a total of two 1gl pots in this space. Less work maintaining them.
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Below is a picture of the two males. This is how small I keep them. Ive trimmed the roots and replanted them once so far. They are hardy weeds. :bigjoint:
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Lastly the seedlings and clones were heavily pruned today. Everything was overgrown and it was difficult to water the trays.
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Cheers
 

Star Dog

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When you're keeping them on ice have you considered defoliation?

I remove the leaves in a bid to slow their growth, I've never actually compared one to another but it seems logical.
 

Farmer's Hat

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When you're keeping them on ice have you considered defoliation?

I remove the leaves in a bid to slow their growth, I've never actually compared one to another but it seems logical.
Defoliation also works. I just prefer to let the plants grow and then prune them back.

How is your grow coming along? Those small fabric pots you use look interesting. How many times can you use one of those pots?
 
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