Timmahh
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Bill Schuette and about 200 people running the State Government. That should make you care honestly.
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bob harris
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People using oils for cancer are by far rarer, and the exception to the rule.Although everyone likes that scenario as justification for more plants and bigger yields.
Lyme disease is bacterial and cureable, although in some cases muscle aches do persist after treatment. The only thing that the lyme's patient could qualify under is "pain"...then the question becomes is it debilitating pain? Most articles I've read would say no..it's more like aspirin level pain. Although I would concede that it would vary from person to person.
cheeswreck
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back to your site n do what you do bestkiss-ass
Timmahh
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Let me introduce you to my buddy and his Doctor. I am SURE His doctor is VERY interested in your medical opine on its curability.
Smoke another one bob, your not high enough.
omfg, i dont believe you just said that.
bob harris
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Not my medical opine...I referenced the Mayo clinic...and unlike you I don't get "high"..i medicate
Buddy Ganga
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You make it sound like Medical is the only thing out there.
It's good as an alternative but shouldn't be looked as the end all or last resort.
So stop trying to turn the guy into some kind of martyr...
bob harris
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I agree..it's alternative to traditional medicine..not a replacement. Hey..forget cannabis..why use drugs at all? Let's all go get acupuncture, it will cure all our ails with NO medicine, after that we can go visit a 'tantra Godess' and she can re-align our chakras and we will be cured! Now, I'm saying that in jest..but it's an alternative therapy as well..and some swear by it.
Again, my point being, let's think about how to get people to accept medical mj for now...rather then wanting the whole apple in one bite.
Timmahh
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not the only thing, just the only natural thing that wont end up killing you, regardless how you use it unless you choke to death trying to eat the 1500 lbs in 15 minutes it would take to reach what experts consider would be a Lethal dose of THC.
not trying to turn him into some martyr. But fact is, Bobs idea of lyme disease only applies If it is known one had been bitten by a tick and treatment can be started immediately. This Usually isnt the case with tick bites, as the numb the area before they chew a hole through your skin, bury their head in you body and begin to feed.
and if Any of you seen my buddy, at 39, and knew him at 26, you would understand why i mention him in this thread.
not trying to turn him into some martyr. But fact is, Bobs idea of lyme disease only applies If it is known one had been bitten by a tick and treatment can be started immediately. This Usually isnt the case with tick bites, as the numb the area before they chew a hole through your skin, bury their head in you body and begin to feed.
and if Any of you seen my buddy, at 39, and knew him at 26, you would understand why i mention him in this thread.
bob harris
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Totally untrue. Lyme's disease isn't Lyme's disease until it's diagnosed. Yes...not getting diagnosed, ignoring the symptoms, or having a Dr. that doesn't diagnosed properly, will allow the bacterial infection to cause more damage to nerves and cells. But once diagnosed..It's a bacterial infection, and it can be cured. If the bacterial infection could NOT be cured, you'd die..it's called sepsis, and since he didn't die..we therefore know he was cured of the bacterial infection...and no longer has Lyme's disease...
Now, there could be left over damage from allowing the disease to go untreated, but that's not Lyme's disease. The Lyme's disease is cured..He'd may very well have neruopathy, damaged joints, or a host of other ailments caused by the delay in treatment, and those may have legitimate benefits from cannabis...But he couldn't get a card for "lyme's disease"
Kinda like Diabetes. You can't get a card for "diabetes"...even though some say cannabis helps with blood sugar.....but you CAN get a card for "diabetic neuropathy" as that is caused by nerve damage, (permanent). But again, diabetic neuropathy only occurs, when diabetes is poorly managed over a period of time. Like what happened to your "poster child"...
Timmahh
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and isnt that a Drs decision to make with his Pt, and not a legislative decision to make?
and isnt it that same pts right to make the choice of what stain of medicine to find, and does that patient not have the right to find that strain? Whether it is from you or I, or a Dispensary, or a Farmers Market, or even a Pharmacy if they so choose, Or all of the Above? which is what I support, all the above.
and isnt it that same pts right to make the choice of what stain of medicine to find, and does that patient not have the right to find that strain? Whether it is from you or I, or a Dispensary, or a Farmers Market, or even a Pharmacy if they so choose, Or all of the Above? which is what I support, all the above.
bob harris
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Done on this thread with you too..You ARE the weakest link..good Bye..
Timmahh
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running from logic does not make logic science fiction. So do what those that know they are beat in a debate does and concede bob. but like a child your just picking up your ball bat and going home. Same end result, you could not beat logic, but you could atleast be a gentleman about it and admit your position was flawed and founded on misguided information.
gladstoned
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Just logged on... you are in another fight? WTF?
jonnynobody
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I wholeheartedly agree but we need more like minded people such as yourself to occupy our state legislature to make those ideas a reality. As it is now, we have what we have and hopefully by the grace of god we can get through this 1 term governor's administration without the bastards dismantling all that the activists in this state have worked for.
Within my lifetime marijuana will be at a minimum decriminalized for all as the baby boomers time fades a newer more informed generation will be taking control of the country. It's only a matter of time before the house of cards collapses and that will be a good day for all.
bob harris
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It is a Dr's decision to be made with a patient. And, in reality, a Doctor knowledgeable in cannabis, would be able to recommend a a cannabanoid profile (strain) based on the condition. When you get a scrip, does the Dr. ask what you'd like to try this week? No..he makes a recommendation based on your need.
The only thing that is being questioned is Dr/Patient relationship...to stop profiteering Dr.s from certifying stoners at $200 a pop.
I guarantee that was not the intent of the voters. (those same baby boomers you hate,by the way, voted in this law..not the young uns)
Strain shopping? Get a life. If you know what you are using the cannabis for, you should be bright enough to know what cannabanoid profile you need. Which is why all cannabis should be tested..so you can see the cannabanoid profile. When I hear strain shopping, I hear beer tasting...it has a variety, party connotation to it that belittles the medical cannabis culture.
This smells like good shit, or wow this one is purple, aren't very good ways to pick a medicine to help a condition. Knowing what you NEED and having cannabis TESTED would allow you to choose effective medicine every time. But I suppose testing would be a further violation of your rights..after all, how could you make any money from your overages if they had to stand up...
bob harris
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Exactly...the "strain" doesn't have crap to do with anything but "potential", the grower gets the quality out of the strain...and it need to be tested and marked..so when I'm looking for a high thc sativa, and see "Jack Hereer"..I don't get over ripe 15% thc high cbn/cbd swag..that does nothing for my condition. When I see "jack Heerer, or Kali Mist, or Flo..I have certain expectations. In the current market strain means nothing. All kinds of amateur growers with big name swag.5 people could grow the same plant, and the tests could all be different
Without testing..you got nothing. At least from a medical standpoint. When I hear strain shopping, and sampling I hear part and beer tasting....detrimental to the view point of the cause.
Cory and trevor
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MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN you're a dick! high horse riding mothf...
Cory and trevor
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when I hear bob I think DICK!