Kassiopeija
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haha that was at the junk drawer, how can they pick so wrong?
Fascism and the Republican Party
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
To all appearances, you posted that meme celebrating an obvious fascist as “lawful good” entirely without irony.
You continue to appear to condone, even approve of its authoritarian message. If there were another way to read it, you would have answered with that other way.
Dum taces clamas.
Fogdog
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Are you saying the GOP MAGA Fascist Party's attempt to overthrow our democracy is justified? You have to do more than just make some unjustified claims before I'm willing to let Trump shred our Constitution.
What you are invoking is the "yeah but you do it too" logical fallacy. Tu quo est. It's a well known shitty debate tactic.
So, yeah, after a wave of police brutality that left scores of Black people dead, some of them tortured to death, there were hundreds of thousands in the streets in protest. Some property was damaged but I'm not aware of a wave of killings, you'll have to back that up. The property damage was wrong. It was covered by insurance but I'll go with the statement that it was wrong.
Summer is about over. Did that happen again in 2021 or 2022? It's over. There have been a few BLM protests over cop killings but nothing like what Trump caused to happen during his reign. Also some justice was handed out to the murderous cops. Chauvin will not live to see freedom. Meanwhile about 10,000 people are charged for what they did during the BLM riots. A lot of them are Proud Boys and other white supremacist terrorists, which puts to question -- just exactly who did the property damage? Regardless, whoever broke the law, they should face justice.
What is also wrong was the MAGA Fascist Party's assault on our Capitol Building, the horror our Capitol Police faced, some of whom died due to the action, the attempted coup and attempt to murder Trump's political enemies, And it's still going on. Republicans are still delivering hate speech, egging on the violence. Trump and other Republican fascist leaders, through their hate speech motivated a white supremacist to attack an FBI. He was shot dead during the attempt to arrest him but the blame for that event falls squarely on the shouders the Trump and other Republican fascist leaders. Their hate speech continues. They are attacking our voting systems in states they control too. Trump is still trying to establish dictatorship.
So that equivalence you established to justify Fascism. Not only is it a laughably bad debate tactic. It is entirely false.
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Fogdog
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I knew I'd see you over in this thread. You were invited, so, stay a while and tell us all about fascism.
Antidote Man
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
not only fascists.
Whenever you have someone who fits the data to an ideology, reason fails.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I’d forgotten the lyric; thanks! One of the greats.
Roger A. Shrubber
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it goes back further than that...he and his father bought up cheap rent controlled apartment building in the 70s and evicted or forced out all the tenants, who were old people and minorities, so that they could tear them down and build luxury condos...
trump's money came from his dad, who was a fucking slum lord who treated minorities like shit...like father, like son
Paul Drake
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Paul Drake
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And the trumps were migrants, correct?
PopAndSonGrows
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So the POTUS calling out actual Fascism, yall whine and cry.
But your MOOBY in Chief tells you to "fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore", yall yum it up and lick your fingers afterwards.
Seriously. You Cuntservatives are something else.
But your MOOBY in Chief tells you to "fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore", yall yum it up and lick your fingers afterwards.
Seriously. You Cuntservatives are something else.
Roger A. Shrubber
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a heartwarming story of draft dodging, lies, and graft...
https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry
Paul Drake
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So wait…
Paul Drake
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He hates himself I’d say.
PopAndSonGrows
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He did
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I read Pop’s post as a rejection of agent orange.
But it does make the cardinal mistake of equating conservatism with the GQP.
That lie has been around since John Birch, and Heritage used Reagan and the landscaping twins to pervert the term into today’s fascist creed.
PopAndSonGrows
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Fuck Conservatism. Until they do something worthwhile for actual people and not rich corporations, I'll make whatever cardinal mistake i want. Prove us wrong.
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cannabineer
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I think there is value in separating conservative ideas, which are still small-r republican, from the faith-driven populism morphing into authoritarianism that we see now.
Eisenhower was a conservative. However, he left the New Deal intact and warned us about corporatocracy in the guise of the military-industrial complex.
Corporatocracy unerringly steers toward the authoritarian, with currently apparent consequences.