Fascism and the Republican Party

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So someone broke into Pelosi's home and 'violently assaulted' her husband. He is currently hospitalized and expected to make a full recovery. -MSNBC
Paul Pelosi attacker asked ‘Where is Nancy?’
The man who violently attacked Paul Pelosi at his and Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco home early Friday morning was looking for the Speaker, according to a source briefed on the attack.

Before the assault occurred, the man confronted Paul Pelosi, 82, and shouted, “Where is Nancy? Where is Nancy?” the source said.

Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was not in San Francisco at the time, according to her spokesman Drew Hammill. U.S. Capitol Police said she was in Washington, D.C., with her protective detail.

Paul Pelosi, 82, was taken to a hospital and is expected to make a “full recovery,” according to Hammill.

The new details suggest the attack was not a random crime and that Pelosi’s home was specifically targeted.

It’s the latest in a series of crimes or threats to lawmakers and other political figures that has raised worries across the country.

Threats against lawmakers have been on the rise in recent years. Between Jan. 1 and March 23 of this year, U.S. Capitol Police opened about 1,820 cases involving direct threats and concerning statements or actions.

In 2021, Capitol Police opened 9,625 cases involving direct threats and concerning statements or actions, and the year before that, 8,613. In 2017, that number was 3,939.

In the early morning assault on the Pelosi home, an intruder reportedly attacked Paul Pelosi with a hammer.

Sgt. Adam Lobsinger of the San Francisco Police Department in a Twitter post wrote that authorities responded to a break-in at 2:27 a.m.

The Capitol Police in a statement said it is assisting the FBI and San Francisco police in a joint investigation looking into the break-in.

Special agents from Capitol Police’s California field office were sent to the scene, and a team of investigators from the department’s threat assessment section was dispatched to help authorities.
 

Fogdog

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Paul Pelosi attacker asked ‘Where is Nancy?’
The man who violently attacked Paul Pelosi at his and Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s San Francisco home early Friday morning was looking for the Speaker, according to a source briefed on the attack.

Before the assault occurred, the man confronted Paul Pelosi, 82, and shouted, “Where is Nancy? Where is Nancy?” the source said.

Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was not in San Francisco at the time, according to her spokesman Drew Hammill. U.S. Capitol Police said she was in Washington, D.C., with her protective detail.

Paul Pelosi, 82, was taken to a hospital and is expected to make a “full recovery,” according to Hammill.

The new details suggest the attack was not a random crime and that Pelosi’s home was specifically targeted.

It’s the latest in a series of crimes or threats to lawmakers and other political figures that has raised worries across the country.

Threats against lawmakers have been on the rise in recent years. Between Jan. 1 and March 23 of this year, U.S. Capitol Police opened about 1,820 cases involving direct threats and concerning statements or actions.

In 2021, Capitol Police opened 9,625 cases involving direct threats and concerning statements or actions, and the year before that, 8,613. In 2017, that number was 3,939.

In the early morning assault on the Pelosi home, an intruder reportedly attacked Paul Pelosi with a hammer.

Sgt. Adam Lobsinger of the San Francisco Police Department in a Twitter post wrote that authorities responded to a break-in at 2:27 a.m.

The Capitol Police in a statement said it is assisting the FBI and San Francisco police in a joint investigation looking into the break-in.

Special agents from Capitol Police’s California field office were sent to the scene, and a team of investigators from the department’s threat assessment section was dispatched to help authorities.
It's not just that Pelosi is being threatened, it's that prospects to replace Nancy will decide it's not worth the risk. These fuckers are killing our country -- all in the name of our country.

Trump's violent rhetoric has taken hold in the right wing community and now they are egging each other on. Judges, politicians, reporters, people who speak out against Trumpist fascism are exposed to the wrath of this violent sect. Ironically, radical authoritarianism does not recognize legal authorities or rule of law. They blindly follow their authoritarian leader. His word is their authority.
 

Unclebaldrick

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It's not just that Pelosi is being threatened, it's that prospects to replace Nancy will decide it's not worth the risk. These fuckers are killing our country -- all in the name of our country.

Trump's violent rhetoric has taken hold in the right wing community and now they are egging each other on. Judges, politicians, reporters, people who speak out against Trumpist fascism are exposed to the wrath of this violent sect. Ironically, radical authoritarianism does not recognize legal authorities or rule of law. They blindly follow their authoritarian leader. His word is their authority.
Trump yesterday on Musk's completing purchase of Twitter.

I am very happy that Twitter is now in sane hands, and will no longer be run by Radical Left Lunatics and Maniacs that truly hate our country.

What a patriot. His followers are awesome people who have no intention of eventually exterminating those who disagree with him or offend their superior moral guidelines. I value their contribution on this and every other online forum in the world.

Raymond Shaw is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Don't expect the republicans to do anything about domestic terrorism, except to coddle and protect them, oh yeah, harass the DOJ and FBI for investigating and busting them too. The GOP has two wings, the political one and the domestic terrorist wing and they work with allied private propaganda media companies. They will block every attempt to rein in political violence, terrorism or democratic reform, they are now even blocking the confiscation of Russian money to pay for Ukrainian aid. If this keeps up in America, you'll find yourself drafted for an unpopular war and end up in a corrupt military like a Russian. Why not, if your vote counts for no more than theirs does, neither does your opinion and you'll do as you are told or suffer the consequences.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Oh, OK. So that's how we have civil discussions with brain eating aliens. We just ignore it when our leaders get attacked by them. How I learned to love fascists and embrace global climate change.

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How do you have a civil discussion with Trump, you can't because he is not civilized, and neither are those who would vote for him. Nobody who deals in facts and reason can have any impact on them because facts and reason never brought them to this place. It's like Ukraine, another struggle for liberal democracy, you must beat them, you can't reason with them, they are out to destroy your country if they can't own and control it.
 

Fogdog

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It's a political ad, intended to influence, not to inform. The Anti Defamation league criticizes that it trivializes the history of the Holocaust. That said, the message is not wrong. "Hate and tyranny don't stop themselves they must be stopped." Regarding what the ADL said, I don't think it trivializes the holocaust. The overlaying images are fair comparisons of MAGA GOP and Nazi behavior. It's no accident either.

Republicans knew what they were doing when they raised their hand in a Nazi-like salute. Marchers at the protest in Charlottesville knew the history of the Nazi flags they carried alongside the Confederate flag. We saw Trump encourage the crowd to fight and sent them down the road to the Capitol Building where Congress was assembled to give the final stroke that handed power over to Biden.


And now, we see headlines like this:

Pelosi attack shocks country on edge about democracy threats


Trumpist iss an ideology, not something that can be reasoned with. Vote them out. If they gain power, oppose them in the streets. They can be stopped. If they aren't, history shows what happens.
 

hanimmal

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It should not be controversial to say that America has a major problem with right-wing political violence. The evidence continues to accumulate — yet the GOP continues to deny responsibility for this horrifying trend.

On Friday, a man enflamed by right-wing conspiracy theories (including QAnon) entered the San Francisco home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and attacked her 82-year-old husband with a hammer, fracturing Paul Pelosi’s skull. “Where is Nancy?” he reportedly shouted, echoing the mob that stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, at President Donald Trump’s instigation. This comes after years of Republican demonization of the House speaker, a figure of hatred for the right rivaled only by Hillary Clinton.

The same day as the Pelosi attack, a man pleaded guilty to making death threatsagainst Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.). Two days earlier, three men who were motivated by right-wing, anti-lockdown hysteria after covid-19 hit were convicted of aiding a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D). In August, another man died after attacking an FBI office because he was so upset about the bureau’s search of Mar-a-Lago. “We must respond with force,” he wrote on Trump’s Truth Social website.

Then there are all the terrible hate crimes, in cities including Pittsburgh, El Paso and Buffalo, where gunmen were motivated by the kind of racist rhetoric — especially the “great replacement theory” — now openly espoused on Fox “News.”

This is where any fair-minded journalist has to offer an obligatory “to be sure” paragraph: To be sure, political violence is not confined to the right. Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) was shot in 2017 by a gunman with leftist beliefs, and in June, a man was arrested for allegedly plotting to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh after becoming incensed about court rulings on abortion and guns.

Republican leaders cite those attacks to exonerate themselves of any responsibility for political violence. “Violence is up across the board,” Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said on Sunday, arguing that it’s “unfair” to blame anti-Pelosi rhetoric for the assault on Pelosi’s husband.

Violence is unacceptable whether from the left or right, period. But we can’t allow GOP leaders to get away with this false moral equivalency. They are evading their responsibility for their extremist rhetoric that all too often motivates extremist actions.

The New America think tank found last year that, since Sept. 11, 2001, far-right terrorists had killed 122 people in the United States, compared with only one killed by far-leftists. A study from the Center for Strategic and International Studies last year found that, since 2015, right-wing extremists had been involved in 267 plots or attacks, compared with 66 for left-wing extremists. A Washington Post-University of Maryland survey released in January found that 40 percent of Republicans said violence against the government can be justified, compared with only 23 percent of Democrats.

There is little doubt about what is driving political violence: the ascendance of Trump. The former president and his followers use violent rhetoric of extremes: Trump calls President Biden an “enemy of the state,” attacks the FBI as “monsters,” refers to the “now Communist USA” and even wrote that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has a “DEATH WISH” for disagreeing with him.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) has expressed support for executing Nancy Pelosi and other leading Democrats. Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Tex.) has tweeted that “the America Last Marxists … are radically and systematically DESTROYING our country.”

That type of extremist rhetoric used to be confined to fringe organizations such as the John Birch Society. Now it’s the GOP mainstream, with predictable consequences. The U.S. Capitol Police report that threats against members of Congress have risen more than tenfold since Trump’s election in 2016, up to 9,625 last year.

The sickness on the right was on display after news broke about the attack on Paul Pelosi. While leading Republicans condemned the horrific assault, the MAGA base seethed with sick jokes making light of the violence and insane conspiracy theories. (Filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza suggested that the attack was “a romantic tryst that went awry.”)

Karen Tumulty: Glenn Youngkin's riff about the attack on Paul Pelosi is not just tasteless but dangerous

There was, alas, no sign of the GOP taking responsibility for fomenting hatred. Kari Lake, the GOP nominee for governor of Arizona, blamed “leftist elected officials who have not enforced the laws.” Naturally, Republicans accuse Democrats of being “divisive” for citing Republican rhetoric as a contributing factor to political violence.

It’s true that, by calling out GOP extremism, Democrats do risk exacerbating the polarization of politics. But they can’t simply ignore this dangerous trend. And it’s not Democrats who are pushing our country to the brink: A New York Times study found that MAGA members of Congress who refused to accept the results of the 2020 election used polarizing language at nearly triple the rate of Democrats.

So please don’t accept the GOP framing of the assault on Paul Pelosi as evidence of a problem plaguing “both sides of the aisle.” Political violence in America is being driven primarily by the far right, not the far left, and the far right is much closer to the mainstream of the Republican Party than the far left is to the Democratic Party.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The Ukrainians are at war, same idea though, same motivation, same tribalism, Trump evoked it with good reason, so did Putin, Joe and Nancy not so much, in words or actions. One roll of ass wipe reflects reality and the other pure bullshit, China will print either, it's just money to them. One is a reaction to a real war and threat, the other is completely pulled out of someone's ass and spoon feed to morons, lunatics and bigots. "They are taking over" means their fellow American citizens who don't have the "right", the same rights they do. Practice catching up to theory has got them worried about the making of a more perfect union business, usually called progress and inclusion.

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