Fedral judge lol's at Obama Florida voter purge is legal

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ChesusRice

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Fuck it
You fright wingers will go to any length to disenfranchise voters that probably wouldnt vote for your shit pile officials
 
desert dude

desert dude

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ChesusRice said:
Fuck it
You fright wingers will go to any length to disenfranchise voters that probably wouldnt vote for your shit pile officials
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This would satisfy me.

"b. In the 23 states and DC that allow voters to show both photo and non-photo IDs – such as a utility bill and bank statement – there is no evidence that voter impersonation fraud is occurring."
 
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ChesusRice

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Limiting voter access to the polls is a Republican cause. In 2011 and so far in 2012, nine states passed new or stiffened old voter ID laws. Republican governors preside over all nine states. And in all but one, Republicans completely control the legislatures. Five other states with Republican-controlled legislatures passed voter ID bills last year. These will not take effect, however, because five Democratic governors vetoed them.
Behind every voter-restricting Republican is corporate-sponsored ALEC. ALEC is the American Legislative Exchange Council, a right-wing group that sends conservative lawmakers on all-expenses-paid junkets where they are wined and dined on ALEC corporate sponsors’ dime while they develop “model” legislation, like the kill-at-will laws that the slaying of Trayvon Martin made infamous.
ALEC gives corporations veto power over proposed “model” legislation, a fact that clearly illustrates who is in charge – the corporations that provide 98 percent of ALEC’s $7 million annual budget.
Corporations embrace voter ID because democracy is downright annoying to them. The Supreme Court has deemed corporations to be people, which allows them to secretly spend unlimited money on political campaigns. But that doesn’t assure victory for candidates that corporations choose because corporations don’t have the right to actually make the choice – to vote.
The best corporations can do is limit balloting by those likely to vote against corporate-sponsored candidates. That would be voters who historically have favored Democrats.
Voter ID laws disproportionately disenfranchise those voters ­– the poor, minorities and those who actually recall the progressive, popular and successful administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. The Republican backers of voter ID are completely unconcerned that the laws subjugate these citizens.
Too bad, they say, for grandma, who has voted in every election for the past 65 years but doesn’t have a driver’s license anymore and because she was born at home does not have a birth certificate necessary to get a government-issued photo ID.
Too bad, Republicans say, for the student whose driver’s license address differs from his university address and whose college photo ID does not have an expiration date.
Too bad, the GOP says, for the urban single mother who does not have a driver’s license or the time or money to apply for a birth certificate with a raised seal required to apply at another office for a state identification card.
Voter ID restrictions work for the rich. They’ve got birth certificates and photo driver’s licenses and passports. Or they can send a servant or secretary to apply for the documents. And the more rabble removed from the polls, the more weighty the votes of the wealthy.
In the Halcyon Days of democracy, the unwashed masses were actually urged to vote with slogans like: “If you don’t vote, you don’t count.”
Now corporations, 1 percenters and Republicans are working to ensure you don’t vote because they honestly believe you don’t count.
 
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ChesusRice

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Red1966 said:
Let me get this straight. You're seriously contending that 1% of the population controls the vote? That is the silliest thing I've ever heard of. Aren't you embarrassed to make such an idiotic claim? All the other drivel in your post is pure conjecture that only a fool could possibly believe. You're trying to convince us you know the thoughts and motivations of people you've never met. "To bad, they say"=> no one said that. You are being dishonest. It's obvious that you have an agenda that has only one purpose, to elect Democrats. You don't give a fuck about the poor, the disabled, or anyone else. It's your party first, last, and always. The party that defended slavery, that fought the Civil Rights Bill, that welcomed the KKK into their fold. The law, the constitution, the people be damned, you want to win. You'll utter any lie needed to empower the government at the expense of the people. And stop pretending to not be UncleShitBritches, you worthless parasite.
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1 the democrats got civil rights passed
2 the democrats kicked out the KKK and the racist southern dixiecrats
3 I will vote for a republican and have when they have what it takes
A love for America and it's citizens

I am sorry your saviour Ronny the Paul failed so miserably. But maybe if he hadnt had so many crazy ideas he would of stood a chance
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Johnny Retro said:
That's funny coming from you.

Oh, and could you show me where I made fun of him for being gay? Your partisan talking points strike again.
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bawney fwank.

because apparently all gay people talk with a lisp.

no prejudiced stereotypes being applied there. nope. not at all. :lol:
 
Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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UncleBuck said:
bawney fwank.

because apparently all gay people talk with a lisp.

no prejudiced stereotypes being applied there. nope. not at all. :lol:
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You think all gay people talk with a lisp? wtf? That's really disconcerting, man. You should probably lay off the prejudgement of gays. And you should probably stop using the word gay as a condescending term. It's obvious you look down upon the gay community, but claim to be "tolerant"..whatever that means. You obviously need to get your moral's checked..
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Johnny Retro said:
You think all gay people talk with a lisp? wtf? That's really disconcerting, man. You should probably lay of the prejudgement of gays. And you should probably stop using the word gay as a condescending term. It's obvious you look down upon the gay community, but claim to be "tolerant"..whatever that means. You obviously need to get your moral's check..
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i don't speak foreign languages, sorry.
 
Pipe Dream

Pipe Dream

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ChesusRice said:
I got a better idea.
RFID chip implants. Everyone gets one and every citizen born here gets one

Welcome to 1984.

I dont carry a ID not even a drivers license, Not even when I drive. If the cops want to know who I am, They can look it up. And they have.
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And how exactly does a cop "look it up"? For all he knows, you memorized a stolen ID # and name. I too have been pulled over a couple times without my ID and wasn't pestered, but I'm sure that's only because the cop believed me. He probably could put me in custody and hold me for finger printing to verify the information if he wanted to. Cops get false names everyday. Even if you don't carry the ID on your person, you already have one.

UncleBuck said:
they are more likely not to have one when compared to the rest of the population though.



hogwash. illegal immigrants often have IDs. i dare you to state otherwise.
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Statistics can be misleading and flawed. I could say poor people are more likely to be criminals too, and criminals are probably more likely to not carry ID. Just like they say marijuana is involved in x amount of deadly car crashes, it's propaganda because some percentage of the population is always going to test positive for marijuana. So say 25% of the driving population uses MJ and 20% of all victims tested positive for THC....well it sounds bad when they say 1/5 crashes involve MJ, when statistically they would be involved in less deadly accidents compared to the average rate of MJ users.

If IDs are so easy to get that even illegal immigrants can get them, why are you in here complaining about the poor souls who cannot acquire one? If all you need is a bill to vote, what's to stop someone from just bringing in a bill I tossed in the trash without opening it and claiming to be me?
 
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ChesusRice

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Pipe Dream said:
So illegal immigrants are more likely to have ID than poor people but voter fraud is not an actual problem? I'm confused.
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Yeah illegals have Fake IDs

They use them to actually work instead of staying home all day and complaining about the goverment and liberals on the internet
 
canndo

canndo

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desert dude said:
This would satisfy me.

"b. In the 23 states and DC that allow voters to show both photo and non-photo IDs – such as a utility bill and bank statement – there is no evidence that voter impersonation fraud is occurring."
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The homeless can't register, it is a shame, but you can't establish a place of residence then it can't be determined where you are supposed to vote. Given this, such a reqirement works quite well and is most likely constitutional.
 
canndo

canndo

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ChesusRice said:
Limiting voter access to the polls is a Republican cause. In 2011 and so far in 2012, nine states passed new or stiffened old voter ID laws. Republican governors preside over all nine states. And in all but one, Republicans completely control the legislatures. Five other states with Republican-controlled legislatures passed voter ID bills last year. These will not take effect, however, because five Democratic governors vetoed them.
Behind every voter-restricting Republican is corporate-sponsored ALEC. ALEC is the American Legislative Exchange Council, a right-wing group that sends conservative lawmakers on all-expenses-paid junkets where they are wined and dined on ALEC corporate sponsors’ dime while they develop “model” legislation, like the kill-at-will laws that the slaying of Trayvon Martin made infamous.
ALEC gives corporations veto power over proposed “model” legislation, a fact that clearly illustrates who is in charge – the corporations that provide 98 percent of ALEC’s $7 million annual budget.
Corporations embrace voter ID because democracy is downright annoying to them. The Supreme Court has deemed corporations to be people, which allows them to secretly spend unlimited money on political campaigns. But that doesn’t assure victory for candidates that corporations choose because corporations don’t have the right to actually make the choice – to vote.
The best corporations can do is limit balloting by those likely to vote against corporate-sponsored candidates. That would be voters who historically have favored Democrats.
Voter ID laws disproportionately disenfranchise those voters ­– the poor, minorities and those who actually recall the progressive, popular and successful administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt. The Republican backers of voter ID are completely unconcerned that the laws subjugate these citizens.
Too bad, they say, for grandma, who has voted in every election for the past 65 years but doesn’t have a driver’s license anymore and because she was born at home does not have a birth certificate necessary to get a government-issued photo ID.
Too bad, Republicans say, for the student whose driver’s license address differs from his university address and whose college photo ID does not have an expiration date.
Too bad, the GOP says, for the urban single mother who does not have a driver’s license or the time or money to apply for a birth certificate with a raised seal required to apply at another office for a state identification card.
Voter ID restrictions work for the rich. They’ve got birth certificates and photo driver’s licenses and passports. Or they can send a servant or secretary to apply for the documents. And the more rabble removed from the polls, the more weighty the votes of the wealthy.
In the Halcyon Days of democracy, the unwashed masses were actually urged to vote with slogans like: “If you don’t vote, you don’t count.”
Now corporations, 1 percenters and Republicans are working to ensure you don’t vote because they honestly believe you don’t count.
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My God Cheses, don't bring up ALEC, someone on the right might just disocover that they have been and are being used directly for special interest gain. Most of them are so much more content to not examine such things.
 
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