Fems or Regs

Trousers

Well-Known Member
Meat-
You do not know what heavy metals are.
Like most plants, marijuana needs zinc, copper, manganese, nickel and cobalt to grow.

All of those are heavy metals.
Unless you use r/o or distilled water, there are heavy metals in the water you drink and feed your plants with.

You get more exposure to heavy metals driving a car than spraying a plant with colloidal silver.
You would need to consume a minimum of 4 grams of silver to get argyria.
How many grams of silver are in a 1 ounce bottle of of colloidal silver at 50 parts per million?
Do you understand what that means?

If there are one million parts in that bottle, 50 of the parts are silver.

You can buy 500 ppm colloidal silver that is sold strictly for the purpose of ingesting it.
http://www.naturalpathsilverwings.com/index.php?product_id=19&page=shop.product_details&category_id=6&flypage=flypage.tpl&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=71&vmcchk=1&Itemid=71

In the directions it says to take by mouth a half teaspoon of 500 ppm solution.

My colloidal silver is 50 ppm. That is less by a factor of 10. 10 x 50 = 500.
When I spray a plant each spray is only a tiny fraction of a half teaspoon. None of that spray gets on me or is ingested by me.

Colloidal silver is perfectly safe to use on a plant to force it to show male flowers. It is perfectly safe to use that pollen on female flowers to produce feminized seeds. It is perfectly safe to use those seeds to grow marijuana. It would also be perfectly safe to eat the seeds that were created using colloidal silver.

If you have some sort of evidence that I am wrong, post it.

You are a worthless sack of shit and dumber than a sack of hammers. At least hammers are useful. It is amazing you can breath and operate a computer at the same time. Maybe if you type too long you pass out for lack of oxygen causing your already stunted and deformed brain further damage. It is like like Ouroboros, the snake that devours itself, except it is your limp, stupid brain devouring itself. Shut your whore mouth, you stupid idiot butt face nerd.
 

bmeat

New Member
all i know is convential wisdom. and that is we get more than enough minerals and metals in the food we eat, so you should try and stay away from them. i understand living things need vitamins and minerals, but only at a very low amount.

i see that the bottle is 500ppm and i understand you need at least 30ppm to hermie a plant.

the bottle suggests to dilute the 500ppm to about 10ppm, and even less than that for children.

how did we make tomatoes an asexual breed? was it also with silver?
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
Conventional wisdom says you are a dumb ass and that you should shut your whore mouth.

My colloidal silver is about 50 ppm. That is ten times less strong than the solution that is made for ingesting.
If you took that half teaspoon of 500 ppm colloidal silver and added 5 teaspoons (10 half teaspoons) of 0 ppm water to it, you would have about the strength I use.

I could safely drink the entire bottle of colloidal silver that I use to turn numerous plants.

I asked you to post evidence.
Quit being a fucking asshole.
 

bmeat

New Member
a human is much bigger and more resilient than a plant. 30ppm for a plant is a lethal enough dose to change it into female with pollen.

ive posted tons of articles about the dangers of silver itself, and the use of collidal silver. please refer to prior posts.
 

althor

Well-Known Member
I am not convinced that a hermed female (even using colloidal silver) doesnt carry a Y chromosome.

They recently discovered a Y chromosome carried in 60% of women tested....
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
a human is much bigger and more resilient than a plant. 30ppm for a plant is a lethal enough dose to change it into female with pollen.
You are wrong.
You do not know what "lethal" means. You do not understand ppm. You do not understand much of anything.

ive posted tons of articles about the dangers of silver itself, and the use of collidal silver. please refer to prior posts.
All those prove is that you are too stupid to understand what we are talking about.
You talk shit and don't back it up with anything.

Stop being an asshole.
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
I am not convinced that a hermed female (even using colloidal silver) doesnt carry a Y chromosome.

They recently discovered a Y chromosome carried in 60% of women tested....

Who is "they"?
I would like to read something about that.
 

althor

Well-Known Member
Who is "they"?
I would like to read something about that.
Google it.

It is called fetal dna I believe. It is something that happens in pregnancy that attaches to their brains and never goes away.
Now I am not saying that it verifies or proves anything. All I am saying is, when it comes to things like this there is much to learn and many things undiscovered as of yet. So I am "unconvinced" at this point. It is still a point of discussion of people who claim to have gotten males from verified feminized seeds. Whether it is true or not has been debated back and forth ad naseum. I am undecided.
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
Google it.

It is called fetal dna I believe. It is something that happens in pregnancy that attaches to their brains and never goes away.
Now I am not saying that it verifies or proves anything. All I am saying is, when it comes to things like this there is much to learn and many things undiscovered as of yet. So I am "unconvinced" at this point. It is still a point of discussion of people who claim to have gotten males from verified feminized seeds. Whether it is true or not has been debated back and forth ad naseum. I am undecided.
So you spread rumors?

I did google it and couldn't find anything, that is why I asked.
I just googled it again with fetal dna and can't find anything that would be relevant.

Who is claiming to have gotten males from "verified feminized seeds"?
I would imagine they were either not really feminized seeds or stressed so much they showed male flowers.
 

althor

Well-Known Member
So you spread rumors?

I did google it and couldn't find anything, that is why I asked.
I just googled it again with fetal dna and can't find anything that would be relevant.

Who is claiming to have gotten males from "verified feminized seeds"?
I would imagine they were either not really feminized seeds or stressed so much they showed male flowers.
Hold on a second jackass, me saying I am UNCONVINCED makes me spreading rumors?
I dont know how better I can clarify my opinion for someone who is trying to act so scientific.

They are still making discoveries to this very day in human genetics, yet somehow you think you already know everything there is to know about MJ genetics, especially something like a herm. Well, I bow to your knowledge and wisdom, you know all.


http://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/2012/10/25/male-dna-in-female-brains-revisited/

So I dont have to bother coming back here to respond to your next set of "points"

Yes I realize this is women who are pregnant and have had male children. Yet this is something that they are just now discovering. Who is to say how a hermie effects things? Certainly not you.
So for now I remain unconvinced that a Y chromosome cant be passed even if it is very rare.
 

bmeat

New Member
there is male and female in all of us..or males wouldnt have estrogen or a mammary track..

its called balance and when you distrupt it, you distrupt natural life cycle

a hermie is an intersex, which can utilize both seed and carrier. its a male female.

there are also diseases (that weve created) that create super males and super females. they grow tall with small heads and dont always do well
 

bmeat

New Member
im not saying youve created the hermie, but youre only feeding it. most plants have been fucked so hard that they are now asxeual, like tomatos. we in fact did breed that into their dna, which was my first and only point.

Disadvantages


  • The disadvantages of self-pollination come from a lack of variation that allows no adaptation to the changing environment or potential pathogen attack. Self-pollination can lead to inbreeding depression, or the reduced health of the species, due to the breeding of related specimens. This is why many flowers that could potentially self-pollinate have a built-in mechanism to avoid it, or make it second choice at best.


Read more: Types of Flowers That Self Pollinate | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5457479_types-flowers-self-pollinate.html#ixzz2GPethbyV
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
Hold on a second jackass, me saying I am UNCONVINCED makes me spreading rumors?
I dont know how better I can clarify my opinion for someone who is trying to act so scientific.
No reason to be rude.
You made an odd claim based on something I could not find online. What I did find had little to do with the topic.

They are still making discoveries to this very day in human genetics, yet somehow you think you already know everything there is to know about MJ genetics, especially something like a herm. Well, I bow to your knowledge and wisdom, you know all.
You must not read very well. I have just been trying to get people to back up their claims about feminized seeds. Why does that bother you? Did you not get an iphone for Christmas?

http://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/2012/10/25/male-dna-in-female-brains-revisited/

So I dont have to bother coming back here to respond to your next set of "points"
What does that have to do with reproduction and especially sex determination?

Yes I realize this is women who are pregnant and have had male children. Yet this is something that they are just now discovering.
That has nothing to do with reproduction. Thanks?

Who is to say how a hermie effects things? Certainly not you.
You do not really understand what a "hermie" is. I have purchased and grown feminized seeds. I have produced thousands of feminized seeds. My friends and I have grown hundreds of plants from those seeds. 100% were female. 0% were hermaphrodite. 0% were male.
I think that allows me to talk about feminized seeds.

What is your excuse? It is great you are unconvinced and want to share that. Maybe back up your opinion with something?


So for now I remain unconvinced that a Y chromosome cant be passed even if it is very rare.
That is great. Can you come up with anything to back up your opinion? You never bothered to answer my question about who is getting male seeds from "verified feminized seeds."

If we are talking about properly made feminized seeds from stable marijuana varieties then there just isn't a Y chromosome in there. You realize plants do not have brains and do not give birth, right? There is no fetal dna in plants.

Marijuana is a diploid (there are some exceptions to this). That means it has two chromosomes. A female will have XX and a male will have XY. If you take a plant that has a set of XX and use its built in mechanism to produce male flowers, where doe the Y chromosome come from? The plant did not have it to begin with. This has been covered. You have me unconvinced that you know what you are talking about.

I am not denying that scientific discoveries are made every day, but until someone can come up with something better, I will stick with Mendel.

If you would like to explain to me how a Y chromosome can appear out of thin air, go for it. You can even call me a jackass while you are trying to explain your odd opinion.
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
there is male and female in all of us..or males wouldnt have estrogen or a mammary track..

its called balance and when you distrupt it, you distrupt natural life cycle
What are you talking about? What do mean by "distrupt natural life cycle"?
You are just making up more bullshit lies because you can not back up your garbage opinions with anything.

You do not understand hermaphroditism, yet you continue to talk about it. It is natural and normal unlike you.

a hermie is an intersex, which can utilize both seed and carrier. its a male female.
We have covered this you idiot. You still do not understand it.

there are also diseases (that weve created) that create super males and super females.
We are talking about feminized seeds moron. You are a disease.


they grow tall with small heads and dont always do well
That explains a lot. Maybe you should buy a tiny hat.
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
im not saying youve created the hermie, but youre only feeding it.
what in the wide, wide world of sports are you talking about?
You should try reading your posts out loud before hitting submit. Maybe read them to the other patients in the sun room during recreation time.


most plants have been fucked so hard that they are now asxeual, like tomatos. we in fact did breed that into their dna, which was my first and only point.
You made numerous points and I think you were wrong on 99.99% of them.
This has nothing to do with feminized seeds.
You didn't know what you were talking about then and you still do not. It is sad, but funny.

Disadvantages
  • The disadvantages of self-pollination come from a lack of variation that allows no adaptation to the changing environment or potential pathogen attack. Self-pollination can lead to inbreeding depression, or the reduced health of the species, due to the breeding of related specimens. This is why many flowers that could potentially self-pollinate have a built-in mechanism to avoid it, or make it second choice at best.


Read more: Types of Flowers That Self Pollinate | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5457479_types-flowers-self-pollinate.html#ixzz2GPethbyV
Did you actually read that? You post articles that do not back up your point. Hermaphroditism is natural and normal in cannabis.
Do you know what successive means? Do you know what can means? That article does not mention cannabis at all.

You didn't post the part about the advantages of self pollination.

If i make feminized seeds from two different seeds, that is not self pollination.

Keep posting.
 

bmeat

New Member
a tomato is a hermie, becuase we created it into that.

cannabis plants have the tendencay to hermie, becuase we have bred into their dna to encourage hermie growth. when the plant was first put on the earth by the creator, it was NOT an asexual species. therefore weve created it. that was my main point throughout this whole thing, that weve changed/mutated the plants dna, and I AM CORRECT.

potatoes used to be the size of little rocks until we injected them with plant hormones/steroids and now they are big. this was not done by 'natural' selecting and breeding, this was done by chemicals, and it does remain in the species genepool.

those huge carrots are the product of chemcials as well. etc..etc..

monsanto has mutated many of our crops in the u.s. (and now spreading to other countries that we stick our hands into) and they hold patents until 2014 so most of our crops are from their mutated line of seeds.

they wanted to make terminator seeds, which would be sterlie seeds, so you would have to buy a need seed every grow! that cant be healthy!
 
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