Few questions for next Springs babies..under a cfl

countrypickle

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Hi to all at RIU
Been too long....After a very sucessful season I had with the help of this wonderful community... sadly I missed last season ;( had to be away for work all summer,and am not impressed with having to buy my stuff... so I'm gonna get ready for next year NOW ...
I am harboring two fugitives from last years crop a friend of mine had.I clipped off two small pieces and rooted em.. They are now relaxing comfortable for the winter in our nice warm "cold room"..lol
I have two Questions.... they are under 2 t5's and 2 23w cfls. the lights are on 20 hrs a day,with a fan ,they are growing a little too bushy now :) and needed a trimming
Will they continue to grow that way if I dont change a thing for the winter.? (as long as I dont change light and times they wont veg....right ? )
and
Should I upgrade the light or do I have enough to have "mary" and "jane" give me lots of babies for springtime preparations.I got 5 months to let them do their things....
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Bakatare666

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Hi to all at RIU
Been too long....After a very sucessful season I had with the help of this wonderful community... sadly I missed last season ;( had to be away for work all summer,and am not impressed with having to buy my stuff... so I'm gonna get ready for next year NOW ...
I am harboring two fugitives from last years crop a friend of mine had.I clipped off two small pieces and rooted em.. They are now relaxing comfortable for the winter in our nice warm "cold room"..lol
I have two Questions.... they are under 2 t5's and 2 23w cfls. the lights are on 20 hrs a day,with a fan ,they are growing a little too bushy now :) and needed a trimming
Will they continue to grow that way if I dont change a thing for the winter.? (as long as I dont change light and times they wont veg....right ? )
and
Should I upgrade the light or do I have enough to have "mary" and "jane" give me lots of babies for springtime preparations.I got 5 months to let them do their things....
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Actually, IMO "upgrading" your lights would keep them from getting so stringy and give you tighter, more compact foliage.
Here's one of mine, started Sept 27, vegged for 2 weeks under about 300w of CFL's.
Now in a 2 gal. pot.Dec 9, 70 days old (1).jpg
But here is one from last year, under 98w, vegged for 30 days.
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countrypickle

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is it me are does ur plants look wierd like stretchy and skinny, it dont look like a MJ plant
lol yeah they are a annorexic in that pic.... they are kinda an experiment....the plant itself is no more than a foot tall... and it just recieved a reallly good trimming(over half the foliage) just about an hour before pic was taken. I was scared and thought I overdone it,but the next day they came right back...I'll post a new pic soon.never grew a "momma" plant before.
 

countrypickle

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@ Bac,,, Nice pics.Healthy looking.. I like.
I am going to work on upgrading a bit here soon,so busy over the holidays,I am just trying to keep them alive till Feb then I'll get to it when I have more down time. That bottom pic is almost what these girls looked like just a few days ago.Thus the reason I think I overdone it when I trimmed.lol lesson learned but they survived,.. How big is the space that u have urs in I have only a 3x3 area to work with .I was reading a lot last night on cfls. I do think I may grab 2 of the daytime ones and add to it... I dont really want fast growth.. I just want them to slowly veg until may then I will be sending thier youngens out to "be free" in the forest lol . I am going to train them on the same day night sched that mother nature will be like in may... then they can fend for themselves afterwards as the days get longer, I am hoping they will thrive.. But yeah I should add at least a couple more lights to prevent reaching.
 

countrypickle

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20131214_103125.jpgmy first attempt at LST .
20131214_103228.jpg.As u can see from the tape ..She was not impressed with all this abuse..but it was a one time thing...I think I got it adjusted enough now.
20131214_103158.jpgThis one may be a future concern...When she grew she had to fight for the light,and while I was away for two weeks they never got moved...So this one grew with a lean... only thing I could thiink to do was tie it over.However what concerns me is the future weight of itself on its side...so I placed this with the light on a bit of an angle hoping to make the section clsoser to the base strech just a wee bit then it may level out an be ok.while equaling out the mass a bit better... think that would work ?
my main purpose here is not to get them bushy... but to get as many chutes growing straight up as possible.so come spring ...clip clip clip ... root and go I also lollipop them as well ...When I get my goal of "offspring" I will keep the lights lower on them and make them focus on the stalk more so than growth..I want trees next year . :P Am I going about this the right way., I wish I had a lot more time to keep reading and figure it out,but with work kids animals holidays, etc I was hoping the faster method of help from RIU ... :)
 

ii dP ii

Member
are you taping the plant itself to the side of the bucket???

you should get some plant ties or something and use that, the plant will eventually just die where you've taped it down like that and it'll bounce right back up to vertical.
 

countrypickle

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yes and no.
I am taping a piece of the leaf down yes...but be the same as trimming the tip off..would it not.It wont hurt the plant.may tarnish that piece of leaf. At least thats how I been doing it for years with our family's tomato plants..figured be same process here.
I do have green insualted garden wire used to hold down the main stalks tho.
the big piece green tape(painters tape) was a bandaid. the center stalk split on me when transplanting. its almost healed now and ready to come off..
With the abuse these girls are getting...They should be nice and hardy come spring.lol Even the family goats had a go at em before they moved indoors. lol
 

ii dP ii

Member
I'm not worried about hurting the plant, obviously that'll grow back if it needs it. but I'm just saying I feel like once that leaf tip falls off the branch you've taped down will pop back up, ruining your short stocky bushy look.
 

countrypickle

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I am sacrificing those leaves in hopes that the little chutes growing under the bigger ones can be pulled into the open space.as they harden I will wire them off as I did the bigger ones.Eventually when its gets one more "haircut" before spring...I will tie everything down with the hemp yarn,,as I did with previous outdoor plant. My main goal is as many vertical stems as possible for now.
I had always gotten my spring clones from a relative,but they moved away ,so this is my first winter ,or attempt at baby making..( mind u with 4 kids I am apprtly good at it in real world lol.. yeah sad joke I know, winter blahs.)

this was the outcome of the tape and yarn trick from the last time...It still has the yarn attached,but u cant see it.. hoping for same outcome
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