First 400W Grow Journal + Pics

Yes, it has a $10 clip on fan blowing into it. The duct on the other side goes up through a hole in the ceiling to the return duct. The furnace helps create even more of a vacuum when it kicks on. Yea, my reflector has glass, and I wouldn't use a MH without it; they have a tendency to explode occasionally. The hood is barely warm to the touch, ~5in below the glass I get a reading of about 78F during the day with the plastic open. All sealed up it peaks around 81-83F.

Sounds like its working great. Was just about to drop $110 on a 165 cfm inline fan, but now am thinking ill set up something similar to yours. Thanks for the info

Someguy15 said:

Yes, it has a $10 clip on fan blowing into it. The duct on the other side goes up through a hole in the ceiling to the return duct. The furnace helps create even more of a vacuum when it kicks on. Yea, my reflector has glass, and I wouldn't use a MH without it; they have a tendency to explode occasionally. The hood is barely warm to the touch, ~5in below the glass I get a reading of about 78F during the day with the plastic open. All sealed up it peaks around 81-83F.

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i concur air cooled glass covered hoods, only way to go player!

The LA Woman is doing extremely well and now has 3 true sets of leaves. For a free bean I'm very impressed. My chronic bag seed isn't fairing as well unfortunately. I started giving them about 8 oz of .4 EC nutes every 5 days or so. This time I went with mini cubes in hydroton, I was not a fan of the large cubes.


Clones are hanging in there. A lot of dying back, but it's been over two weeks and I still don't have GOOD roots. They are starting bubble/bulge but no good feeders yet. The other 2 in rockwool seem to be barely holding on. One seems to have rooted (seems like it took 3 weeks) and has very little foliage. At this point I'm suspecting my less than spectacular results are due to substrate temperature. I'm not using a heating pad and 1 85w CFL doesn't pump too much heat. I'd crank both of them on, but I'm not sure they can take 8,500 lumens right now.

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Clones are hanging in there. A lot of dying back, but it's been over two weeks and I still don't have GOOD roots. They are starting bubble/bulge but no good feeders yet. The other 2 in rockwool seem to be barely holding on. One seems to have rooted (seems like it took 3 weeks) and has very little foliage. At this point I'm suspecting my less than spectacular results are due to substrate temperature. I'm not using a heating pad and 1 85w CFL doesn't pump too much heat. I'd crank both of them on, but I'm not sure they can take 8,500 lumens right now.

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i feel you on the cloning troubles mang! is there a reason why you don't clone with rockwool and just spray them to keep them moist? i threw away my heat pad (ok im just not using it), it got my clones to hot. my veg room is temp regulated, and i isolate the humid dome. good luck to you, maybe cut a 2 liter bottle in half and use it as a humid dome? i don't know, good luck!

Debating switching back to the Hortilux Metal Halide during the last two weeks of flower. The idea is most of the bud production is done and blue light is suppose to increase trichome production. Any comments on this idea? Thanks guys

Picked up some Humboldt County's Snow Storm Ultra. Going to give it a try but I have to be careful with airated rez. Perhaps I will just add it the day before rez change without the stones and then change the rez after running it. Claims it can be used a foliar spray but I'm hesitant to be getting the buds wet in week 5. If anyone else has tried this let me know.


Also grabbed a quart of Mother Plant A & B for LA Woman. Hopefully she'll be ready to pull clones from in about 5-6 weeks. Plan is to take about 8-10 clones (staying in my legal limit), rooting them for 2-3 weeks, vegging for 2 weeks, and then flowering them. I will use ScrOG & FIM to create multiple cola's on each.

i have a LAOG plant, is that related to you're LA Woman, mines a sativa.

Drella said:

i have a LAOG plant, is that related to you're LA Woman, mines a sativa.

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Heres a link. Got it for free but it's lookin like my new mother. Time will tell.

mmmmmm So the excitement is building for obvious reasons. About 3-4 weeks left and this has to be the hardest part haha. Little bit of calcium def. I think not changing the rez for 14 days hurt me. Changing every 7 now and things seem to have stopped progressing. Pineapple is barely affected luckily.


(Pineapple's 6 Colas)

Trying to decide when to chop. I was considering doing a partial harvest and then putting the smaller, lower buds under the light for a week or two. Normally I would think this was a waste of time, but my mother may not be ready to give 6-8 clones at that point (thus the light would just sit unused). I'm also trying to figure out how to deal with multiple strains being done at different times. I want to flush and use 72 hours of darkness before chop, but with this flood & drain setup they will all have to flush. I've heard mixed reviews on the need to flush, and I haven't been over-nuting, so I think I will be fine with a short 3-7 day flush. I'm currently looking at about 16 more days till flush (8.5 weeks flowering) and letting them go 9-10 weeks before the final chop. Any tips on how to deal with this predicament appreciated. Smoke 1 and get at me!

Not sure where everyone went! I'm about to start my flush in 3 days. I'm guessing I'll flush for about 10 days, give 72 hours of darkness and chop chop around the first of February. One of my girls is burned pretty bad, but I'm hoping she'll pull through to the end. Pineapple looks amazing, I'm guessing I'll get at least 2 ozs off her 6 fat colas. Her trichs are still 75% cloudy, 20% clear, 5% amber. She is literally starting to collapse under her own weight! The other 'chronic' seeds are looking pretty close to done already. Trichs are 20% amber on them girls, by the end I'm guessing it'll be almost 50% so a heavier buzz. My regs don't look quite as tasty as my good stuff, genetics seem to matter more then I thought. Next round I want to do 4 Pineapple clones and 4 LA Woman. My mothers will def. not be ready in two weeks though so I might have some downtime . Now I have to decide if I want to start 7 from seed and hold out on my mothers, or wait for them to be ready. Choices choices...

Plan for drying is ~7 days (depending on bud size) of hanging in darkness and then 14 days of curing in mason jars. Burping them once or twice a day for 10-15 minutes and turning the buds. I'll probably just cure them from there on out, up to 6 months, taking what medicine is needed.

Hope someone is still out there listenin to my ramble. Peace guys.

Mother updates from today:

We have roots finally Don't mind the top leaves on LA, I failed at FIM by not cutting enough.

sounds like you're a busy man! i cant even see the white on your nugs bro! you're one of the few on this site doing DWC, and doing it right. i do soil, but this is the only thread of hydro that i followed. im proud to see where it got you! looks like you'll be dialed in by the end of next harvest! all of you hard work and research is paying off! im 19 days in bloom, i got 12 clones that are a week into veg, (they were rooted clones a week ago, and i transplanted them), so they'll veg hard, i guess like 6-7 weeks. trying to keep it perpetual like you! Good luck on all of the decisions, im not worried about you at all!

sorry i didnt post any flush advice, you're a month ahead of me bro!

Thanks for the support lol, glad someones hanging in there. I'm actually doing flood & drain, not DWC. Honestly, the only difference I see between soil and my setup is the medium. I water my mothers by hand once every other day using hydro nutes. Pretty much like soil, except the medium doesn't store nutrients like soil can. I'd venture to guess you could even try a 'hydro' plant side by side with soil and compare the results. I'm really a fan of this new medium (mothers and other plants from now on) of 50% hydroton 50% rockwool mini cubes mixed (look like salad croutons lol). Oh and we should have been harvesting at similar times, shame on whoever gave you male clones! That's just bad karma for that dude.

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Thanks for the support lol, glad someones hanging in there. I'm actually doing flood & drain, not DWC. Honestly, the only difference I see between soil and my setup is the medium. I water my mothers by hand once every other day using hydro nutes. Pretty much like soil, except the medium doesn't store nutrients like soil can. I'd venture to guess you could even try a 'hydro' plant side by side with soil and compare the results. I'm really a fan of this new medium (mothers and other plants from now on) of 50% hydroton 50% rockwool mini cubes mixed (look like salad croutons lol). Oh and we should have been harvesting at similar times, shame on whoever gave you male clones! That's just bad karma for that dude.

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Yea man some male clones is fucked up. So how long you gonna flush guy?

Someguy15 said:

Thanks for the support lol, glad someones hanging in there. I'm actually doing flood & drain, not DWC. Honestly, the only difference I see between soil and my setup is the medium. I water my mothers by hand once every other day using hydro nutes. Pretty much like soil, except the medium doesn't store nutrients like soil can. I'd venture to guess you could even try a 'hydro' plant side by side with soil and compare the results. I'm really a fan of this new medium (mothers and other plants from now on) of 50% hydroton 50% rockwool mini cubes mixed (look like salad croutons lol). Oh and we should have been harvesting at similar times, shame on whoever gave you male clones! That's just bad karma for that dude.

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flood and drain? damn, this stuff is so complex. i found out my grow is technically hydro because it's soilless, i use sunshine mix 4. good luck on the new medium. it's crazy that you bring up "we shoulda finished together!" it's weird how it doesn't make me mad anymore, if someone wants to be a douche bag, let em. it sounds lame, but maybe im growing up. im 24, married, and i own a nice house in so cal. everything i have i earned from scratch with the help of my wife.

i guess what im trying to say is i blessed to be on this earth and doing good, and growing green. a week after i found out i had male clones, two weeks into 12/12, i got laid off. by staying positive i think it got me my job back at another company, same trade. i see you have the same attitude. you had that creepy gross blob in your media, and look at your grow now! good carma on both of us! you reap what you sow, hiya player, hiyah!

lol sounds complex, but really its a tray that fills with water once a day, then it drains back into a tank. pretty basic.

Kush, I plan to flush about 10 days, or as long as they last... probably 48 hours of darkness before I chop.


One of my bag seed plants was dying quickly. Lost almost all of the fan leaves and the trim leaves were starting to go. Decided to cut it, most of the trichs are cloudy, but it could have used another week or two, o-well. Not sure what killed it, but here's a couple pics.

looks great! good luck on the dry and cure! those roots look super intimidating!

First 3 are Pineapple Express. Last one is Early Girl.


And a close-up of PE, check out the trichs!

So excited