First auto - really small plant, anything to do?

Hey again

So like i said before, its my first auto and i have Royal Dwarf Auto from Royal seeds.
She`s 23days old. i started feeding with some SENSI nuts (grow A+B) for a week now,
after i got some help here from people who advice to start feeding (had some yellowing leaves).
im using 10liter pot with coco and feeding with 1ML per litre (i don't want to burn her).
Light - 250w Dualspectrum light.
Temp`s - 73-78 in light time and around 65 when its dark.

i want to believe that i`m not a complete noob but it looks like my plant
is really bushy and small, you have some photos, im really interested to
know what do you guys/ladies thinks about her and maybe im missing something
here.

Thanks and happy grow

Some plants are just very short and bushy phenos. I've seen full plants become bud, so who really knows. They look healthy to me.

thanks man, ill be happy to hear some more comments

Looks pretty good to me. I think that strain is supposed to be pretty small anyways. Small size, not necessarily small yield. I have a pic of one of my NL autos from a previous grow at about 24 days I'll throw up. This plant ended up yielding me nearly 2.5oz.

it looks fine its probably going to start stretching in the next few days. Autos sit there for 3 weeks or so establishing a root system so most of the plant's energy goes toward this until 3weeks or so from sprout when it goes into flower and stretches.

If I may add a small bit of my 20+ years.............

Most people germinate in the dark, including myself at times. However research has shown that deep red (630/660) increases germination success and enhances the metabolic rates of pre-emergence. Increases radical growth/elongation and girth. Once the seedling emerges and opens up it's cotyledons, now the introduction of blue light, with a dominance in blue, combined with red, creates the Veg "action spectrum" for Chlorophyll A and Chlorophyll B. This promotes lush green leafy growth. The more red dominance promotes stretching or elongation of branches.

When I grow I keep all plants under Metal Halide and keep them there through the first week of flower. It keeps the stretch down and promotes more nodes which promote more bud sites.
Only after the stretch phase, when I can actually see pistel tops, they get the HPS

I wouldn't worry about its size. I got a auto super skunk and they're just relatively very short statured bushy plants. I wouldn't expect a huge yield (I'm not) indoors autos usually grow under such short periods so that the yield is a limited amount of bud considering its short growth cycle (some are only 2 1/2) months. 2 ounces to 3 would be a very good grow.

Looking good!

Your crops look good alright
The ruderalis genes are supposed to keep them short so no worries about it Bruh

That is what the issue is small yields but is easy to hide --- you are switching one for the other, take your pick? Auto's not worth the time

The trick is just to let it go till it's ready. I see a lot of people harvesting too early and they could've waited and had a bigger yield.

JFK6 said:

Hey again

So like i said before, its my first auto and i have Royal Dwarf Auto from Royal seeds.
She`s 23days old. i started feeding with some SENSI nuts (grow A+B) for a week now,
after i got some help here from people who advice to start feeding (had some yellowing leaves).
im using 10liter pot with coco and feeding with 1ML per litre (i don't want to burn her).
Light - 250w Dualspectrum light.
Temp`s - 73-78 in light time and around 65 when its dark.

i want to believe that i`m not a complete noob but it looks like my plant
is really bushy and small, you have some photos, im really interested to
know what do you guys/ladies thinks about her and maybe im missing something
here.

Thanks and happy grow

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Would like to see more on this grow. I have 3 of the same beans, but right now I have a Royal Queen Critical and a Royal Queen Haze in my growbox. I am using 3 5000k CFL's and 3 2700k CFL's in a small dorm fridge on a 18 / 6 light cycle. I am using a 6 quart tub with 2 3.5" net pots. Germinated the seeds on 1 Feb, and put in rockwool cubes on 3 Feb. Today is 2 weeks since I put them in the growbox. The Critical has now about 4" tall and has several roots that are about 10-12 inches. The Haze plant is on its 4th node of leaves, not as tall, and roots aren't as long either.
I will be using Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow & Bloom A & B, VooDoo Juice, Nirvana, and some other products by AN. 3 quarts of water after the roots made it down to the water. Added 1/8 strength nutes on the 12th and did a res change today to fresh water until Wed. Had just a bit of N overload. May have been a tad early on feeding.
Will try to post some photos later.

Thanks all for the comments!!! its almost 60 days from sprout and it became more bushy!
actually there is no free space between the branches, i used LST for the first time and its amazing,
i think that now she`s twice the size than in this pic but the confusing part is that
there still no flowers! is it normal?! 60 days, feeding with Sensi Bloom A+B, 1600-1800 PPM, light is still 18/6 with the dual spectrum bulb.

any ideas?!!?! oh...ill upload more pics later.
thanks again.

That does seem abnormally long for an auto, especially since the site states nine weeks to harvest. I would expect a +/- 2 weeks due to environmental variations but none? Looking back through the post you just made your nutes are slightly more elevated than I would go. Have you tested your soil for elevated salt/ph levels that may be locking out vital blooming nutes?

FYI: I Am a noob and only work with soil, so take any info lightly.

actually im not testing my soil at all, but the plant looks really healthy, no burn
no yellow leaves. im only testing the water with Ph drops and EC meter. everything
looks regualr but no flowers =/ i think i noitced some pre flower signs but not sure...i guess
that uploading a picture will be the best thing to do...can`t do it now but i hope it will
help you diagnose what`s going on.

thanks for the reply =]

Flipping to 12/12 could induce fowering... idk though. Anyone else think this too?

So here are some pics from 2 minutes ago, it seemd like she`s doing fine
but like i said before, there is no signs of flowers, i tryied LST for the first
time and i got about 12 tops for this amazing plant!

can`t wait to hear what you got. oh and about changing the light to 12/12
i can`t...i`v got OG kush in the same place.

thanks =]

The only thing that I see that is a few tips that are yellowing (possibly N toxicity), but its not everywhere. Image 3 does have a leaf that's low (down by the pot-top) that you may want to look at more closely and image 8 shows a few that looks like it may be early N build-up.

12/12 is not good for a auto flower (will only produce little to moderate crop) and only should be attempted as a last resort. It can be possible for the auto-flower pheno to jump a generation just by random-ness much similar to feminized seeds do not Always produce females. They just improve your odds of 9/10 or better. Screwy things happen everywhere. Just my 2 cents.

I would get a Rapidtest soil test kit. They are typically only $10-15 for a ten use kit at your local grow store or you could pick up a reusable digital ph/fert/lux meter(I think) for around $20-25 on Amazon. Measure for proper levels of P and K. They can sometimes look like elevated N levels. I got this off of another RIU forum:

If you're through the roof w/ N and low levels of P and K you may have to flush a few times and get individual P and or K nutes to get back to and even keel.

Thanks for the info man but im not sure that this is the problem, i mean you can see in the pic
that she`s looking nice, no def at all...i guess it just taking more time than i thought.. =/

It's all process of elimination. More info is never bad. She does look very healthy other than those few spots but they don't look like problems, just indicators.

PS: They never do go fast enough. ......LOL

Another great reference:

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