first closet grow with UFO

littlegrower2004

littlegrower2004

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update on the outdoor Aussie Blues seed...i would say around week 6 of flower so i think about a month to go..shes nice a fat and crystally so im ready for some danks!!!ive been adding some advanced nutes carbo load with my foxfarm and seems to help a good amount..well let me kno what u guys think of her..actually her/him..this is a herm hah
 

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la9

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littlegrower2004 said:
ya in a couple weeks were gona strip them for clones and leave only top growth then hopefully switch lights to 12/12...my other journal will be strictly the LED..this will be with hps also...
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Are you doing the whole grow with LED, even the flowering ? Are you going to use the Aussie Blues so you can compare to this grow ? If you are planning on flowering with LED's are you going to get LED's in the flowering range or stick with the UFO( one size fits all) ?

If it was me I would try setting up some LED's specifically for flower, I'd build a whole new fixture but I don't believe that is an option for you. Does someone sell something better suited to flower ? If so are you planning on getting it ?
 
Khemi

Khemi

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Pure LSD emits bright sparks when shaken. Throw out your HID's and L.E.D's and shake up some cid for a light source! Mad loomers yo.
 
marchold

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la9 said:
Yeah I don't want to discourage anyone or start an argument but I looked up information this morning on them. They use 1 watt LED's that put out 45 lumens a piece. They use 80 of them for 3600 lumens but the brightest will still be 45 lumens.

a 600 watt HPS puts out 95,000 lumens and the brightest is 95,000 lumens.
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That souds about right I have a 400w HPS and a 90w UFO. I would not trade my 400w HPS for 4 90w UFO's because I get more that 4x more harvest from my HPS.

The UFO is nice because it will work in totally unventilated spaces. I can create a grow box out of a cardboard box and my UFO. The HPS would never work in a cardboard box.
 
littlegrower2004

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la9 said:
Are you doing the whole grow with LED, even the flowering ? Are you going to use the Aussie Blues so you can compare to this grow ? If you are planning on flowering with LED's are you going to get LED's in the flowering range or stick with the UFO( one size fits all) ?

If it was me I would try setting up some LED's specifically for flower, I'd build a whole new fixture but I don't believe that is an option for you. Does someone sell something better suited to flower ? If so are you planning on getting it ?
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wow la9 for being here argueing the whole time, u still dont know what im doing???i have a closet full gdp with strictly the UFO but thats the other thread...this one has the hps involved in it i got 2 of the 150s up...and no im not gona buy any more lights to add to the grows..only looking to improve my mother/clone spot..starting taking the clones yesterday and today but got too many then i can house right now so i still have alot of plants to go..its gona throw off the time schedule for a couple weeks but ill have to deal with it
 
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anyone ever try doing a mix of HID and LED? I may run into some money here soon through an opportunity at work and I was wondering if the lumens from an HPS and the spectrum from the LED during flower (using it more for a direct source to deficient areas or the largest buds) would help/hurt/do nothing - or would I be better off with cfls? Just throwing that out there if anyone could give me an answer
 
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an0dyne

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I've been very busy and only caught the first few pages which had turned out to be a fail of bitching about which was better - i lost interest very soon. sorry i'll go back and look
 
littlegrower2004

littlegrower2004

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an0dyne said:
I've been very busy and only caught the first few pages which had turned out to be a fail of bitching about which was better - i lost interest very soon. sorry i'll go back and look
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i actually just posted like 3 above this saying what each room is...pretty sad u missed that one
 
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an0dyne

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sorry about that i was just readin' thru and stopped once i saw the bickering - not blaming either party, just got a bit bored reading ya know? thanks for the info an keep growin' man

p.s. i've read thru and good luck with that man. so are you doing a suppliment with this grow and the other is straight LED? if i'm reading correctly of course. its been a long night with lots of booze and drugs
 
marchold

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an0dyne said:
anyone ever try doing a mix of HID and LED? I may run into some money here soon through an opportunity at work and I was wondering if the lumens from an HPS and the spectrum from the LED during flower (using it more for a direct source to deficient areas or the largest buds) would help/hurt/do nothing - or would I be better off with cfls? Just throwing that out there if anyone could give me an answer
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I have been trying exactly that. I have a UFO that sits under the exhaust duct of my 400w HPS. The good thing is I get a little more out of mu closet with out adding much heat. In the first 2 weeks of flowering the plants that were under the UFO and HPS seemed to grow taller faster. Now I am about 6 weeks in to budding and the buds under the UFO look noticeably smaller. I have some fat buds forming all aound that space immediatly below the HPS and the plants that are mostly under the UFO are about 1/2 that size. I also have a bunch of those 50w red/blue LED panels on the wall. I am leaning twards removing all the LED panels from the flowering room and using them only for veg. From what I can tell the LED spectrum is bad for the buds.

I will try and get some pics to post. The place where the LED's are working out great is in the veg area, becasue it is a small area and the low profile and low heat makes it possible to veg them a little taller in that area.
 
littlegrower2004

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UPDATE:

got 2 of the 150w HPS up including the UFO and everything looks good to me...the droopy looking plant by itself is the one the has been under the HPS a majority of the time...once again its hard to get decent pics in the small space but i tried to get some to show the under growth...hopefully i can get the clones off these once the cloners in the other thread clear up..then its off to flowering hopefully..
 

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Multan

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gamebird65 said:
i have one of those and i'm a newbie. lets see how well it works for one or two plants. they r cheap at 30.00 and i was curious if they do work. now i see that led's can work yet i hope the little model works. i may have to use mhd's and put the led's on side
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those led's are garbage. little christmas lights. the $30 dollar panels are more like ornamental than actual grow lights.

i guess you could use some combination of cfl's as your primary and supplement with that panel, but even as a veg light---one panel is garbage!

sorry to burst any bubbles.
 
LightFusion

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exactly. like 5-10 years ago everyone thought that creating a "white" led was impossible because that would imply that your creating every spectrum of light at once with an led.....any "normal" led at the time could produce just a single wavelength of light. At the same time they went from being little indicators to being used in tail lights, stop lights, flashlights.....etc. anything really. in 5-10 more years there COULD be a single led that would put out the wavelengths plants use at an "intensity" that would dwarf anything else, using less power then even a 150w hid system.

i think the real problem is that no one is doing any research on growing plants with leds...the money just isn't there. otherwise we prlly would have a system like that today.
 
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