First grow alaskan thunder fuck

ur in just soil right ? and it just started or has it been there for a week

im still new to site as well as far as postin been here for awhile as a silent observer i wake up every mornin and check out my bud porn and c whats up i have a passion for growing makes me happy

no i am in hydrotin and have those smart pots that let lots of air in

budXL said:

yikes what is this?? what do i do,
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How long ago did you you start using Shooting Powder, and have you been giving them Ca/Mg? Honestly I would probably add Top Booster right now, and wait a few more days for shooting powder, but keep doing what you are doing, do not turn back. Trying to go a step backwards after it's too late is what ruined my first Sour Kush grow, which was a really easy strain.

Anyways, the Shooting Powder is amazingly powerful stuff, and does good things, it can be a little scary at first. What it does, is that it signals the end of life for the plant, it kills it. Why this is good is that it takes like 3-4 weeks after giving it shooting powder for it to start going downhill, until then it gets fatter, and fatter, and fatter. When the end of life signal is given, the plant produces more weight as a last desperate attempt to attract pollen. So this process takes a lot out of your plants, as they suck up all the goodness in the fan leaves into the buds. You will notice the leaves will burn at the tips, the ridges will turn upwards on the leaves, and some will turn brown and blotchy with yellow, and fall off. It's all natural, it's all good stuff. If you feel like this is happening to fast, run a little plain water through each plant, maybe the shooting powder burned it. They look like they might be a little over fertilized, So I would give them 1/2 liter to a full liter each of water, you don't have to listen to me though, they will probably be just fine.

Finally, if you have not been adding a cal/mag supplement you need to in order to get a healthy full crop. Believe me when I say it increases your yield by A LOT. At about 4 weeks into flower is when they really need it. Just follow the regular directions, you don't appear to have any major deficiencies. But all in all your first crop looks a lot better than my first by a mile. Can you explain that plasma light to me? I've read very little about them but am very interested, as I am a plasma TV salesman. I want to know all the Techy stuff on how it works, the spectrum that one produces, and how many initial lumens, wattage as well!

And finally, my advice to you, since I believe Thunder Fuck is a 8-9 week flower, and you started shooting powder a little early, do a 10+ day flush. I really have my flushing technique down. First 3 days, lots and lots and lots of water with Cell Splitter (not available here in the US [I'm just special like that], you can use Liquid Karma) and Ca/Mg (doesn't matter who makes it, unless it's General Organics, don't use their with synthetic fertilizers), pH is raised from 5.8/5.9 to 6.0 . Next 3 days is just lots of water with my carbohydrate (usually Sugar Daddy or Sweet Raw) with a weak application of Ca/Mg at a pH of 6.0-6.2, I then do a day or two of Clearex and Water (6.0 -6.3pH if it is too hard to adjust ph at this low PPM rate, don't do it, it's not worth throwing away your solution multiple times), and then a full 4-8 days of nothing but water, I used to pH the plain water, but it really doesn't matter anymore, I try and raise my pH to 6.3 by harvest so it works with me this way. I just try to raise it slowly so I don't stress the plant, but it allows it to take up all the important flowering nutrients. After cutting all nutrients, you should have run at least twice as much water, as hydroton in your pots. Example: if you have 3 gallon pots, you are going to run 9 gallons of water through each one. you can do this all at once, or over the last week. I would try and get it in 2 days, you want at least 3 days for your plant to take up that water and replace that green flavor with sugar. So you can just leave your plants alone in the last few days and blow some smoke on them. If you are cropping early, a 24 hour dark period before crop will really really help mature your trichomes, I don't know if it makes it any frostier, but it's more mature without a doubt.

Once again, congrats on your crop, take this time now to prepare a room for hanging and drying. It needs to have air circulation, with no direct wind on the buds, it needs to be dark with no UV light, 70 degrees and 45% humidity, it's best to hang your buds upside down still on the stem, after trimming them. If you need more advice on it, I'll make sure to fill you in, it's a very important step, just like everything else.

I did top booster 10 days ago and did the shooting powder three days ago(the first day of week six) . I only did one packet for the 40 gallon res and was told to do two packets next week. I can go buy that ca/ma tomorrow.

secondly when u are talking about a ten day flush those are the directions for the last ten days of the grow right?

if so, you advised to take all the water out of the res and replace it with water that is just ph'd water and cell splitter and cal mg?

and then you add sugar daddy to that water?

and what do you mean run 9 gallons through the hydrotin, Do i just replace the res water again with clean water and run the pumps as normal...



Thanks for all the info man!
appreciate it!

Dont really know much about the plasma light all i know is that it takes very little energy and produces very little heat, I was able to keep the temperature at about 85 degrees in that room as long as the door was cracked about two inches.. I was hoping to be able to close the door to the room and have it completely sealed off, but that brought temperatures up to about 95, which is still pretty cool for a grow room lol without a/c

I did a little reading on the chameleon web sight but its all a little to techy talk fort me lol i know that it produces a more light from certain specroms but that is all i know.

I originally was gonna do a cheap led set up to cut down on costs and heat but then someone jus gave me the light and i had to test it out

a friend of mine has used them for about a year now and loves them!

ughhhh pissed off, the person who gave me these plants originally told me they were an 8 week grow, he just came over an told me they are actually a 70 day grow

I just started using shooting powder because i thought they were gonna be done in three weeks.

Does anyone have any pointers on getting a plant to bud sooner than planned because i need this plant to be done in 21 days

OMFG!!!!!!
I accidentally pressed the back button after staying up an extra 20 minutes typing out a few paragraphs. Dammit that shit pisses me off!!

So anyways, since you are doing just a 10 day flush this is how I would do it. I am removing a step from my flush because I honestly wouldn't push a hydro grow like your pass 10 days. 14 days is something you do in soil, but if it looks like you can near the end go for it, you do need to push your grow out a little more after all.

Day 1-4: Empty and clean your reservoir, fill it with 4 days worth of water, MagiCal and SugarDaddy (or whatever you like, I just am a huge TechnaFlora fan, although I am a House & Garden grower) and pH it to 6.0-6.1 and it should be business as usual, maybe a little more saturating.

Day 5: Clearex and water. Clearex is a simple flushing solution, it also contains sugars. You can use another brand though. Ca/mg leaves a unpleasent flavor and we need to get rid of that. Run Clearex for up to 2 days with a pH of 6.1-6.2, if you don't want to go buy something else, use your carbohydrate (SugarDaddy), you can run this for 1 day, and start your pure water flush early. Or even start it immediately after finishing with ca/mg + carbohydrate.

Day 6 or 7 to finish: Clean fresh Reverse Osmosis or distilled water and that is it. Don't bother pH adjusting it. Water with a PPM of near 0 has almost no effect on pH in my experience, besides, we are trying to get our run-off water to have a pH of 6.3 by the end of all this. At this point we are draining to waste as much as possible. I have never done a hydro set up like you, so this is going to take some thinking on your part. The idea is to get your ppm's as close to 0 as possible in your run off water, and then keeping it like that for at least 3 days.

If this is to complicated just take the ideas you like and run with them, i know my way is expensive. You don't have to use R/O or distilled, but it is stronly recommended. I like using ca/mg in my flush (and carbon in a longer flush) because calcium helps strengthen the inner cell walls and to facilitate capillary action, and at the same time utilizes more sugar effectively with magnesium, and together they help really pack on the weight during flowering, especially in the flush, where the plant knows it's dying. Carbon feeds magnesium, so I like to add that too, but anything with carbon is going to raise your ppm's and effect your flavor. ca/mg does too, but that is why we only use one or the other during a 10 day flush, I would put my vote on ca/mg.

If you want to cheat nature and mature your plant a little, a 24-48 hour darkness period before harvesting and after flushing (continue to water with plain water) and you should get your trichomes more mature. People say that you get more frost, and fatter buds.... I don't know about that, but I do know right before they go into darnkess I have clear and milky trichs, when I pull them out of darkness they have milky and amber trichs.

I had a lot more to say, but I lost it all and I have work in the morning. Good luck.

added cal mg last night

here are more photos day 38 flower

perfect guide to flushing man, printed that shit and it is now sitting next to my nut chart waiting for these bitches to hurry up and fatten up lol

Since i have started shooting powder already,

If i plan to go the distance and flower them for the full 80 days do i need to change the water out asap or will only one packet of shooting powder not hurt the plant too much...

Secondly since i had planned to only flower them for 8 weeks and i had planned to add more shooting powder in the next two weeks what would the down fall be if i just stuck with the plan?

Flattering, I hope it does you good, haha. You really need 4 solid days of nothing but fresh water at the very end, otherwise you'll get that snap crackle pop. If your plants look good enough you can always push them out further than 10 days, maybe they will because they will be young, the more fresh water the better. I'm really looking forward to your results.

where did u get the plasma light ive never even heard of that i shoulda read more. i looked it up looks super bad ass

Don't back off on the shooting powder, it's too late. Once your plants take it up, it takes effect and distributes the hormones that will signal end of life. I'm not saying for sure, but the ball is already rolling. I did a very similar mistake my first crop with Mad Farmer MOAB, which is sort of does the same thing, in a more old school way. But yeah, I destroyed that crop, they were going to finish whether or not I thought they were finished. Go ahead and increase your dose next res change. I would add half the second pack at a time, I don't push my own ppms higher than 1300 with the house and garden. If your PPM's always seem higher than that, don't sweat, it could be the conversion rate your ppm meter uses, your plants don't look overfeed. And since they are younger plants, I would probably try and keep them lower than that. All plants are different though, if you noticed yours need a lot of food, keep giving it to them, I don't want to kill your garden with what works for me.

You can always try pushing out the ca/mg stage of your flush, you can also add a carbon supplement with it, and flush with pure water for a few extra days, it'll survive it because of extra ca/mg, carbs, and carbon. If you don't feel ready to try something like that, don't. Accept the fact that you are getting an early crop. There is nothing wrong with it. You spent very little money so you shouldn't be sweating how dense your nugs are or how much your final weight is... it's enough for you to stay high for 3 more months, trust me. Early nugs just have a more "high" effect than "stoned" and doesn't last quite as long. But you'll still get the envy of all your friends who have killed a seedling in their window sill before.
But do not push a flush out past 14 days. That's already unheard of in DWC as far as I've found.

Let me know if I start telling you too much and making things complicated. I do that shit all the time.

great info jozikins!

argggg I am so mad i found out two days after i added the shooting powder and my friend had know for a month that these plants werent on an 8 week flower and he just neglected to tell me

I believe my ppm is around 1700, I started them around 1200 and kinda increased it little by little over the first two weeks of flower... I started out with half the recomended nuits and now i am using about the same as the chart says for normal doses....


now i just gotta figure out when to start that ten day flush... with shooting powder in the mix i bet there is such thing as starting the flush too late..

shits lookin good for a first timer ... ive never seen nor heard of plasma grow lights so im interested in seeing pics of the final product ... looks good though especially with what you started with and your experience

Just keep us posted on the shooting powder results with pictures, I'll do my best to help you crop at the right time, but you are the best judge. Your PPM's sound like they are right, some PPM meters use a TDS factor of .5, and some use a TDS factor of .7. Do you have a scope to check out your trichomes?

yea i have a scope.


here are spome more pics end of week 6 flower

i like the docs gear. i too would like to know how you're liking the plasma bulb. i've seen the vids, it looks like the next big thing......