First Grow-CFL/Sterilite Totes

Flares

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well Im hoping maybe 2 more weeks or so. Sofar my grow is basically right on pace to how that buds for less book says. Colas should start getting big thru the next 2 weeks. Ill see how they are at the end of next week and mybe start to flush them out. I know not many ppl hit this thread but I have been looking around and seeing if my first flush thru should be the epsom+perocyde mix then plain water there after or sugar water or... but your about the only one so if ya see or hear anything let me know. gotta be on top of my last 2 week feeding flush or no burnie smoke.
 

Flares

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Heres a question for ppl, seen a 70w hps (medium base??) how would that be with cfls? medium base... is that standard size sockets?? If so im thinking of grabbing it on payday.
 

Lady.J

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Hey I actually decided that I'm not going to go with flushing...did some research on it and it appears that flushing can actually negatively affect your grow...

"Preharvest flushing puts the plant(s) under serious stress. The plant has to deal with nutrient deficiencies in a very important part of its cycle. Strong changes in the amount of dissolved substances in the root-zone stress the roots, possibly to the point of direct physical damage to them. Many immobile elements are no more available for further metabolic processes. We are loosing the fan leaves and damage will show likely on new growth as well.

The grower should react in an educated way to the plant needs. Excessive, deficient or unbalanced levels should be avoided regardless the nutrient source. Nutrient levels should be gradually adjusted to the lesser needs in later flowering. Stress factors should be limited as far as possible. If that is accomplished throughout the entire life cycle, there shouldn’t be any excessive nutrient compounds in the plants tissue. It doesn’t sound likely to the author that you can correct growing errors (significant lower mobile nutrient compound levels) with preharvest flushing.


Drying and curing (when done right) on the other hand have proved (In many studies) to have a major impact on taste and flavour, by breaking down chlorophylls and converting starches into sugars. Most attributes blamed on unflushed buds may be the result of unbalanced nutrition and/or overfert and unproper drying/curing."

-http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/71685-critical-look-preharvest-flushing.html
 

Flares

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Yup, did some reading and youre right about that. Also just to fill ya in, looks like my clones are taking and germed some more of my seeds. well I had 6 in those jiffy pellet things for like 2 weeks and they did nothing. so I popped them out of them and rinsed them and put them inbetween some paper towel and in a baggie and into a dvd case and put them on a heat mat in my drawer and they sprouted overnight. I think Ill stick to that germing since it worked best for me 2 times now.
 

Lady.J

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I'm happy about your clones! And it's funny, the paper towel method worked best for me too. The ones in the soil rarely sprouted.
 

Solemhypnotic

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Paper towel method works for me everytime, I love it! Looking at the way you set this up has given me a lot of ideas on how to improve my own setup. I'm actually going to postpone mynext grow so I can redesign my closet space. I'm thinking about putting my ebb & flow inbetween 2 rubbermaid containers.
 

Iamtreehigh

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What's up. I've been experimenting with this rubbermaid thing lately and I came across your's and Lady J's grows. I saw you guys were wondering about flushing the plant before harvesting and thought I would mention that the few plants that I didn't flush properly always had a bad taste to me. To the point where I wouldn't smoke it unless there was nothing else around. If you are able to perfect your feeding schedule you can time it so that you don't have to flush. In my experiences the less green there is on your plant when you harvest, the better. And since I tend to feed heavy til the end I made it a habit to flush cuz it was really disappointing to me put all that time in and have bud that I don't want to smoke.
 

Lady.J

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Are you sure it's that they weren't properly cured instead of properly flushed? I've been reading a lot of things lately saying that it's not really flushing that affects the taste, but curing. Uncle Ben has mentioned it in one of his post as well. Think about it this way...MJ doesn't get flushed outside in nature, and it tastes wonderful! Next grow I'm taking out all the guess work of ferts and making an organic soil that will feed the plant for the duration of its grow...all you have to do is water :). :peace:
 

Iamtreehigh

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I know it wasn't the curing. It took me a while to figure out curing at first. A bad cure just makes your bud grassy smelling or moldy.

I had one plant that I had going that was on a different schedule than my others and it was almost ready. I was smoking a joint and fed ALL my plants a full strength bloom mix. I didn't realize what I had done until the next day so I flushed it with clearex that day, then plain water the next day and cut it down like I had planned. It smelled bad while I was curing it and it tasted bad when I smoked it. I ended up getting rid of it Everytime I would not flush I could pick out that taste, even when my friends couldn't.

I used to use these: http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/nutrients/flora_series/
I know if there is too much of this stuff in your buds you can taste it, without a doubt and it's about as far away from wonderful as you can get. LOL I know everyone has different ways of doing things. Flushing has always worked good for me. I've even re-vegged a plant that I flushed and I didn't have any issues. Just wanted to let y'all know what worked for me.
 

Lady.J

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Ah no wonder, I understand what you mean now! Yea, chemical ferts will definitely do that to your buds. I'm going organic, just for that reason. I would prefer to make my own compost tea, but am using Fox Farm and Organic Fish Hydrolysate Fertilizer from Neptune's Harvest. Don't need to flush with ogranics! Going to use a molasses /seaweed / guano tea for flowering.
 

Flares

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yeah... guess I will have to flush but I guess I could probably slowly pull back on the nutes to having just plain water. that shouldnt stress them out..
 

Flares

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well I will post some pics later but just bought my first single seed (+they send 1 freebie) from The Original Sensible Seed Co.
I ordered this to try.... Pyramid Seeds Limited Edition #1 Feminized is crossed with very special varieties. We get great exemplars with them, but they are not easy to commercialize, because they are not as stable as our selected varieties, or because the plant produces a low number of cannabis seeds. The Limited Edition is especially suitable for those who are looking for an inexpensive but high-quality seed, regardless of the name. With these editions you can create your own special plant, different from the rest, and give it the name that you like best.

will see how it goes. :)
 

Lady.J

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Hell yea...that's what's up! Better than bagseed :). I'm sending good vibes your way so things go smoothly:peace:
 

Flares

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ok... here is a pic of my clones at 2 weeks.clones-2weekold.jpg popped them out of there small cups and roots everywhere so transplanted to pots. just waiting for them to take off so I can make some more clones.
 

Flares

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Here we go with day 55 pics. Tell me ppl what ya think so far at almost end of week 5 of 12/12.
Day55-1.jpgDay55-2.jpgDay55-3.jpgDay55-4.jpgDay55-5.jpgday55-6.jpg
Are they looking ok? Any tips I need?
 

Flares

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hehe... been doing my best for first grow. Can only do better after this eh. Colas are getting heavy on the Indies. Satas... well from what I have read and heard, sativas do most of the bud growth towards the end.
 

baskarz

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Lookin noice mate!
First grows are all about learning and working out what works for you. Take the best bits of info from everywhere and put it together to get a method that's perfect for you :) everyone's grows are different in their own little ways. And like you said, can only get better! :D
Keep it up man!
:weed:
 
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