First Grow - Dr. Atomic - Atmoic Northern Lights

Day 17

Temperature: 74(low) - 83(high)
Relative Humidity: 30% (low) - 45% (high)

Well we didn't transplant today, but we did water the soil (we let it dry out bone dry). They are going to be transplanted tomorrow, and they need it. The plants are exploding. I'm going to start nutes (small amount) a week after we transplant. Anyways, not much to report, some of the leaves are sagging and thats because we just gave the girls a drink (pure water). We are spraying the leaves (tops and bottoms) every evening after the lights turn off.

Wednesday I am going to introduce a humidifier to keep the humidity in the room a little higher then it is right now, and then remove it for flowering.

Like I said, these things have been under the MH for about 45 hours (45 hours of light, not including dark period). They are already growing at a stupid pace. All look healthy, the problem children have begun cleaning up their acts... Damn girls .

We also removed the smallest plant from under the Metal Halide and will place it under the CFL for a few days to let it grow/strengthen up a little bit. It's already helped. Enjoy!

Keep it up bro, it seems to be going great now.

yo Titleistbudz..... the link in your sig takes me to the thread you're not updating. i've been eyeing this strain for a while. your setup is proper. i'll be following along.

when u gonna show us the flowering chamber?

beennoobed said:

when u gonna show us the flowering chamber?

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very good question.
Plants are looking great. Correct me if I'm wrong but your on about your 13th day since they sprouted from the soil, right? lol yours are prettier than mine at that age. Keep it up man- be checkin back.

i need ur guess's advice on something...
my cab is sealed 27''x15''x55''. no in or out vent, with a cabon filter of course...
what can i do for co2 wise..?? artificial of course but whats the best method for
a rigged up co2 emitter???

beennoobed said:

i need ur guess's advice on something...
my cab is sealed 27''x15''x55''. no in or out vent, with a cabon filter of course...
what can i do for co2 wise..?? artificial of course but whats the best method for
a rigged up co2 emitter???

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How do you have a Carbon filter hooked up in there is no IN or OUT ventilation? That's besides the question. As for CO2, Mix yourself up some Water, Yeast and sugar in a bottle and leave the cap off. The reaction of Yeast eating the Sugar creates CO2 and you can see it when it bubbles. Actually I posted this message in my Thread in response to a question Titleist asked me

Titleistbudz - I forgot to mention that. It is "pumping" in CO2. Pumping in quotes cause its a DIY method with Yeast and Sugar. I ran a Air tube around to each one of the plants and put a T connector to aim it at the plants. I know it probably doesn't put off that much CO2 which is why I placed the OUTLETS directly under the plant. Even if its a little CO2 (which I can see it Bubble so there is some!) at the base of the plants, they should be able to use some of it. I put it in the other day and it seems like my plants have grown some over night.. more than previous nights. I mixed 2 Cups suger with 2 Tbspns of Yeast. Wonder if its the CO2 thats helping, heh- cant hurt.

Below is an article explaining this CHEAP CO2 reaction fairly well, in detail.
DIY CO2 -- yeast

oscarmiya said:

How do you have a Carbon filter hooked up in there is no IN or OUT ventilation? That's besides the question. As for CO2, Mix yourself up some Water, Yeast and sugar in a bottle and leave the cap off. The reaction of Yeast eating the Sugar creates CO2 and you can see it when it bubbles. Actually I posted this message in my Thread in response to a question Titleist asked me

Titleistbudz - I forgot to mention that. It is "pumping" in CO2. Pumping in quotes cause its a DIY method with Yeast and Sugar. I ran a Air tube around to each one of the plants and put a T connector to aim it at the plants. I know it probably doesn't put off that much CO2 which is why I placed the OUTLETS directly under the plant. Even if its a little CO2 (which I can see it Bubble so there is some!) at the base of the plants, they should be able to use some of it. I put it in the other day and it seems like my plants have grown some over night.. more than previous nights. I mixed 2 Cups suger with 2 Tbspns of Yeast. Wonder if its the CO2 thats helping, heh- cant hurt.

Below is an article explaining this CHEAP CO2 reaction fairly well, in detail.
DIY CO2 -- yeast

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lol forgot to say, dont follow my ratio... The first batch was fine but the second sprayed out all over two of my plants like a dirty porn. Just keep an eye on it and you should be fine- Maybe Titleist can hook both of us up with a decent ratio to follow lol.

Day 18

Temperature: Relative to Day 17
Relative Humidity: Around 40% all day
Well I don`t have much to report from yesterday, except the fact they were replanted. Soil composition was 50% Miracle Grow Potting Soil (pH balanced and no slow release nutrients), 25% peralite, 25% vermiculite. Mixed into 3 gallon pots. The roots were getting close to running out of room, but now the tap root can sink to the bottom of these new pots and these girls will grow!

Sublime757 said:

Keep it up bro, it seems to be going great now.

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Thanks man.

UserFriendly said:

yo Titleistbudz..... the link in your sig takes me to the thread you're not updating. i've been eyeing this strain for a while. your setup is proper. i'll be following along.

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Thanks man, hope I can help you decide whether or not to grow this strain.

beennoobed said:

when u gonna show us the flowering chamber?

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The flowering chamber is what you`re looking at. I merely will change the light to the ARGOMAX HPS and eventually weed out the punk ass males in the crop!


Oscarmiya- thanks for dropping in, I appreciate it.

this is to oscarmiya- i have a axial fan that is 4'', i have it hooked up to ducting to my can filter that has a 4'' outlet flang, and just hang the two and it pulls the air through the filter and out back into another ducting thats like 12'' long that is angled at my 250 w hps light to cool it off..get it? filter to ducting to 4''(105cfm) fan to ducting that is angled at hps....in an enclosed area...

beennoobed said:

this is to oscarmiya- i have a axial fan that is 4'', i have it hooked up to ducting to my can filter that has a 4'' outlet flang, and just hang the two and it pulls the air through the filter and out back into another ducting thats like 12'' long that is angled at my 250 w hps light to cool it off..get it? filter to ducting to 4''(105cfm) fan to ducting that is angled at hps....in an enclosed area...

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Tight, ya I get it now. The only thing I was wondering is... how are you plants getting fresh oxygen? If its continuously re-used I don't think your plants will grow at optimal rate. The sugar/yeast CO2 method should work fine for your area but you may want to think about an intake / exhaust to exchange the air in the chamber.

Looking really good so far bud, hope for the best for you and your girls. I'll be coming back frequently to check em out! I salute your organization!

Day 20

Temperature: 73(low) - 83(high)
Relative Humidity: 43%

Well it appears ordering from HTG Supply was a mistake. Not only did my first ballast not work, now my Metal Halide conversion bulb does not fire up completely. So as of Day 20, I am using the ArgoMax HPS, 92,000 lumens and 30% more blue light. It should be more then enough.

Last night I watered the plants (a few ounces of water each) because the top of the soil was bone dry and I don`t know if the roots have stretched far enough yet to hit water. Anyways, the mix contained Advanced Nutrients Barricade (200ppm with 6.3 pH) and a 2.0mL of rooting nutrients.

These pictures are awesome, you can see resin production beginning on all the leaves, and they are growing at an exponential rate. Node spacing is also very very close, and I love that. If you notice some of the plants with minor curling of the leaves (sides), its because they were a little too close to the light but I raised it a few inches back to about 24-28 inches from the tops and they are getting stronger and not being stressed anymore. Good news is, no burns, just signs of stress and I caught them.

Nutrients will be starting on Monday probably, because they can handle 200ppm of Barricade with no worries, I feel they are ready to start feeding at 200-250ppm.

Enjoy these pictures!!

Damn! They are growing hella good man. Big difference from last pics. That HPS you have I bet will be MORE than enough. Ya, it would be ideal to get the MH up for Veg but seriously that HPS will do real well. Wish I had something that big. Nice pics btw- are the lights 24" above the plants? Still heat curls? Good job man- keep up the good work.

Looking good titelist, I am a little concerned about the fringing on the leaves. Strange for the light being so far away. Maybe moving that fan a bit closer would help?

wow man looking good

Hey looking good
Just wondering are your timings from germination or when they first sprouted.

clam5000 said:

Hey looking good
Just wondering are your timings from germination or when they first sprouted.

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The time is from original germination. Minus about 7 days for the time they all sprouted. I have it written down in a journal and I will post details at the end of the grow.

Mendo420 said:

wow man looking good

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Thanks, they are growing awesome.

Sublime757 said:

Looking good titelist, I am a little concerned about the fringing on the leaves. Strange for the light being so far away. Maybe moving that fan a bit closer would help?

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They are recovering well. I dropped it down too low, too quick but it was noticed immediately. It is 26" away from the tops, and 90% of the curling has left the plants. As of this morning, they are recovering even better. They are adjusting to the light. Heat and circulation aren't really an issue. The temperature is being read from about 12 inches from the tops of the plants, hanging from the light reflector. They are all better now.

oscarmiya said:

Damn! They are growing hella good man. Big difference from last pics. That HPS you have I bet will be MORE than enough. Ya, it would be ideal to get the MH up for Veg but seriously that HPS will do real well. Wish I had something that big. Nice pics btw- are the lights 24" above the plants? Still heat curls? Good job man- keep up the good work.

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They are up to 26" above now, and I will not raise it anymore. They are recovering. They aren't burned or discolored, just a minor curling because they weren't ready. I had it as low as 18" at one point, for a few hours. They will grow into the light at their own accord now depending how much they can handle.

And you're right, I wish the MH was still active but to be honest, this HPS is 20,000 more lumen's with the same electricity, and it has ample blue light IMHO. We shall see .




They are growing at an exponential rate. The girls had a busy week.... They were moved from (2) fluorescents underneath a 75,000 lumen Metal Halide. Then 4 days later they were transplanted, and SOAKED. They will naturally be a little weak/shocked but they have honestly recovered phenomenally to everything thrown at them and I have to attribute it to Advanced Nutrients Barricade and the strain of the plant.

They are putting on half an inch a day at least, and it's only going to increase as more and more light hits the expanding and increasing number of leaves!!

Day 22

Temperature: 74(low) - 86(high)
Relative Humidity: 35-45%

Nothing interesting to update. Just some sweet close ups, and more pictures of the girls. We will have another 1.5-2 weeks of vegetation. Nutrients will start sometime next week.

Still minor heat stress, but I have a feeling its due to low humidity. There is zero discoloration and no burns. The leaves are all extremely healthy. Please provide any comments on the minor curling.

I want to do some pruning of some lower leaves that I believe serve no more purpose. Do you think that it would be okay to perform at this point?