FirsT GroW HELP, Getting clones tonight, need final touch up.

ycwang

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thanks all for stopping by first of all, any comment, help would be greatly appreciated. I have about 5 more hours for a final touch up. getting 10-12 12"-14" clones tonight (white widow + 1 or other strains). Getting them for $50 all together from old timer hippie that i befriended through craiglist hydroponic shopping period.


You can skip the set up portion in Italic if you want to get directly to my questions. But comments on set up and everything will be greatly appreciated.


Here is a general set up of my grow tent. (Secret Jardin DR120 3'9" x 3'9" x 6'5")

1) 600 hps light set up
-Hortilux eye bulb
-sunsystem reflector hood
-250 cfm duct fan attacked to the hood with 6" ducts for intake/outflow
2) Circulation in the tent
-275 exhaust Can Fan /w Can filter (damn thing is like 3 times more powerful then my 250cfm duct fan)
-cheap honeywell intake fan. (going to replace it with a 250cfm duct fan)

3) Hydro Setup
- 3'x3' ebb/flow /w 15 gallons of OR water in reservoir there atm.
- 20 lb co2 with electric regulator, and 10 feet of tubing.

Last Night's test run 11pm
-Temp was around 75-78 after light was on for 3 hrs, and circulation in tent and hood running. Entire tent zipped up.

Current Test run 2:30pm.
-Temp was around 75-78 with out light but circulation for the tent was running. Entire tent zipped up

Sorry i still need to get a humidity meter, the reason is beacuse i did the test with out the reserviour and flood tray in the tent, cuz i was still laying shit out. but will get it soon, and post update.



QUESTIONS:: hehe
1)What should i keep my watering and feeding schedule? How long? Depth of water? how long to leave the pump on?
The clones are gonna come in 6" slabs (that's what he said, assuming rockwool or etc?), and i have hydroton in there as well atm. The outflow in the tray is about 3"-3.5" above the bottom of the tray. i did test run earlier, took 4 mins to fill up to the drainage hole. and about 4-6 mins for it to drain back (i went to take a shit). I was thinking about leaving the pump on 15 mins at a time, maybe 3 times a day?

2) How do i work out the whole tent circulation and co2 dilemma?
my best solution as of now is to run the intake fan, exhaust fan and co2 regulator on 3 seperate timers. The schedule i have in mind is for example:
time 0: exhaust fan and intake fan goes off, co2 pump comes on and stays on for 15 mins running at 1 scfh
time 1: which is 15 mins after time 0. co2 pump goes off, but only intake fan goes on because it comes from the bottom of the tent, and i want it to push some of the co2 back up for more marination of plants, but i don't want the exhaust to suck it out that's why i plan to keep it off for another 5 or 10 mins. But i am afraid that it creates a increase pressure in the tent, shouldn't be too bad right? considering how the air can still be pushed out of the exhaust /w out the fan on.
time 2: 5 or 10 mins later. turn the exhaust back on to get it back to normal cycle.
I was planning on doing it 3 -5 times a day, but i need fine tunning on when should i do it at. Should i spread it out evenly between the 12/12, or do more during 12 light and less during 12 night?

3) I also want to try to maximize my space, so i am planning on topping about 5-10 days in to flowering and then use a maybe a plastic net to help it lst a bit. I am not planning on ScroG (from reading seems to be too late for it, as i intend to throw them into flowering asap), i just want to use maybe nets with 2"x2" or 3x3" squres for lst purpose. Is that effective?

Here are all the shits that are running through my head right now, just stressed and shit about all this growing buss. I want everything to be perfect. Do it right, or don't do it at all. Please advice on a first timer.

love, peace and :joint:
 

ycwang

Active Member
i am going to mix up the neutrient in the reservoir. using canna aqua bloom 2 part. Depending on the ppm he is feeding the clones, i am going to mix anywhere from 500ppm-800ppm. i have the solutions mixed up with RO water in 1 gallon jars so i can just pour it out base on needs.

i have a question regarding this product i have called Mad Farmer: mother of all bloom. (M.O.A.B)? anyone ever used it before? anygood?

thanks
 

ycwang

Active Member
yes sir, i am asking a friend to bring over his cam tonight, so i can get some pics. I am getting the clones hopefully in couple hrs if everything work out. in the main time, i can try to upload some with my iphone. gonna go try now. Any answer, comment, and criticism toward my questions will be greatly appreciated.

thanks
 

ycwang

Active Member
the picture for the intake at bottom, i am not sure if i should run 2 or just one. Due to the small size of the tent i think one 6 in duct fan should be plenty. tell me what u guys think. i like in san diego btw, it's comfortablly on the dryer side, due to sea breeze and etc. i don't really know to be honest. but do i have to worry much about humitity atm?
 

SayNoToDrugs

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Well from what i can see, i know your not a newb. You seem to know your shit pretty well actually. I see your grow goin in a good direction my friend. The best way to learn is to just get in there and do it though, no matter how many questions have been answered you have to learn somethings on your own. And if i were you i would check the humidity and if its lower than 35% or higher than like 70% i would mess with it. Unless your clones arent rooted yet, extremely high humidity helps encourage root growth with clones. But a very common way to increase humidity without having a wet room is to have a tray with a clear container of some sort over the plants. This locks in all the moisture. Im sure you have seen it before.

And them are good pics for a phone by the way.
 

ycwang

Active Member
trust me, i am as newb as they come. never grew shit in my life. Freaking old hippie called me and said i can't get clones till friday morning. Fucking bullshit, but not much i can do about it. i guess more fine tunning while i wait. But the clones he said will be fully rooted and ready for 12/12.

Does anyone have a setup that's similar to mine that might be able to give any pointer?
 

SayNoToDrugs

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I dont grow hydro and the only reason i am interested is because i saw a newb that acyually had his shit straight and a good plan maped out. But one best peice of advice i can give you is "Too much of a good thing is bad" IDK what famous guy said that but yeah. Try not to pay too much attention to your plants and notice every 1cm of growth. Just chill and live like its a normal day, and only think about your plants when the NEED to be taken care of.
 

ycwang

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guys. How do u guys feed? spread the time evenly between 24 hours? or between 12 hours? or combination of the 2? like 2 feed during day and 1 during night? please advice. i am trying to figure out the detail settings atm.
 

GrimReefa

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i am going to mix up the neutrient in the reservoir. using canna aqua bloom 2 part. Depending on the ppm he is feeding the clones, i am going to mix anywhere from 500ppm-800ppm. i have the solutions mixed up with RO water in 1 gallon jars so i can just pour it out base on needs.

i have a question regarding this product i have called Mad Farmer: mother of all bloom. (M.O.A.B)? anyone ever used it before? anygood?

thanks
u wont want to feed em nutes just yet there only cuttings, introduce nutes slowly after 2 weeks, then hit em when there big enuff
 
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