kevin murphy
New Member
very nice lad..keep em comin..
first grow!, OG kush indoor soil... Lots of pictures!
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sykodelic
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hey guys had some time to set up the room a little today... heres a couple of pics of how it looks so far
The ratcheting hangers that are holding the piece of duct will actially be holding another light
its only messy for now... but itll be clean tomorow hopefully if i finish
earlier i said this room was 2.5 by 3.5, i meant to say 2.5 by 7.5
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m218/sykodelic/Photo0034.jpg
The ratcheting hangers that are holding the piece of duct will actially be holding another light
its only messy for now... but itll be clean tomorow hopefully if i finish
earlier i said this room was 2.5 by 3.5, i meant to say 2.5 by 7.5
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m218/sykodelic/Photo0034.jpg
Gaia's.Grower
Well-Known Member
you have a different ph due to different rates of nutrient uptake. Plants pump out CO2 from the roots in order to create a chemical gradient that allows them to uptake certain nutrients. The exact reactions are a little out of the scope of this forum (I can provide them if you'd like), but what is important is that all other charges are balanced out except: there is one reaction where 1 hydrogen is removed from water.
The hydrogen is utilized by the plant but the OH- remains in the soil (the - at the end of the OH- indicates a negative charge, OH- is therefore a proton acceptor and by definition a base in the world of acids and bases [just for general info - acids are proton donors and in general are positively charged, bases are proton acceptors and in general are negatively charged]). As more OH- molecules collect your soil ph slowly rises. The individual plants with control the rate by which the ph rises by the rate at which each plant uptakes nutrients from the soil.
Hope that is a good enough answer to your ph question
Some fun relevant info:
Although it may seem intuitive then that as the ph rises to its maximum that all available nutrients would be utilized (after all isn't it the exchange of nutrients that is causing the rise in ph? If so, once the ph stops rising there should be no more nutrients for the plant to uptake) then more fertilizers should be added (NOT TRUE). However, it is not, i repeat not the lack of nutrients that causes the maximum rise in ph to be achieved. It IS the restrictions on nutrient uptake due to ph restrictions on nutrient uptake that cause the maximum ph to be achieved.
What does that all that crap mean?
(**it should be noted that this specifically applies to growing programs that do not have well established beneficial bacteria and fungi. If you have well established beneficial bacteria and fungi they will regulate all ph and nutrient exchange.**)
watch your ph and find out when it peaks. At this point add water that has been PHed to the appropriate ph to bring your soil ph to the desired ph 5.5 - 6.5 depending on strain, etc. (Also i'll mention this process is way more straight forward and much easier for hydro, but works the same in soil. The biochemistry is easier to study and interact with in hydro, but I'll repeat: it works the same in soil.)
You should repeat the process anytime the ph has reached its maximum (also I will repeat here as well just for thoroughness: you have to determine the ph max by adding clean water and testing the run out each time in between feedings, once that run off ph doesn't continue increasing this is your ph max. It should be around 7.5-8.5 depending on your individual factors.)
Once you decrease your ph and it doesn't rise this is when your medium is out of nutrients and this is when you should feed.
It will take a lot of experience with each particular strain and in some cases each plant, but once you have this process felt out it will help avoid overfeeding and also help save on fertilizer cost.
The hydrogen is utilized by the plant but the OH- remains in the soil (the - at the end of the OH- indicates a negative charge, OH- is therefore a proton acceptor and by definition a base in the world of acids and bases [just for general info - acids are proton donors and in general are positively charged, bases are proton acceptors and in general are negatively charged]). As more OH- molecules collect your soil ph slowly rises. The individual plants with control the rate by which the ph rises by the rate at which each plant uptakes nutrients from the soil.
Hope that is a good enough answer to your ph question
Some fun relevant info:
Although it may seem intuitive then that as the ph rises to its maximum that all available nutrients would be utilized (after all isn't it the exchange of nutrients that is causing the rise in ph? If so, once the ph stops rising there should be no more nutrients for the plant to uptake) then more fertilizers should be added (NOT TRUE). However, it is not, i repeat not the lack of nutrients that causes the maximum rise in ph to be achieved. It IS the restrictions on nutrient uptake due to ph restrictions on nutrient uptake that cause the maximum ph to be achieved.
What does that all that crap mean?
(**it should be noted that this specifically applies to growing programs that do not have well established beneficial bacteria and fungi. If you have well established beneficial bacteria and fungi they will regulate all ph and nutrient exchange.**)
watch your ph and find out when it peaks. At this point add water that has been PHed to the appropriate ph to bring your soil ph to the desired ph 5.5 - 6.5 depending on strain, etc. (Also i'll mention this process is way more straight forward and much easier for hydro, but works the same in soil. The biochemistry is easier to study and interact with in hydro, but I'll repeat: it works the same in soil.)
You should repeat the process anytime the ph has reached its maximum (also I will repeat here as well just for thoroughness: you have to determine the ph max by adding clean water and testing the run out each time in between feedings, once that run off ph doesn't continue increasing this is your ph max. It should be around 7.5-8.5 depending on your individual factors.)
Once you decrease your ph and it doesn't rise this is when your medium is out of nutrients and this is when you should feed.
It will take a lot of experience with each particular strain and in some cases each plant, but once you have this process felt out it will help avoid overfeeding and also help save on fertilizer cost.
kevin murphy
New Member
mornin nice update lad hope all goin well pal..
jdmcwestevo
Well-Known Member
very nice i love growing OG kush looking good
show those mites who's boss man fuck those little bastards
show those mites who's boss man fuck those little bastards
sykodelic
Member
thanks! and good luck with your grow!
kevin murphy
New Member
mix it with this one what diod u buy pal
sykodelic
Member
I bough some white fire og from Raskal (breeder).
Its a cross between a triangle kush pheno (3 way cross of unknown OGs from florida) which they call "the white" because of its frostiness, and a Fire OG (the clone only pheno).
I popped 5 seeds out of the 11 that were in the pack (got lucky with 1 extra!) Im pretty sure all the phenos will be keepers so itll be hard deciding which one/s to keep...
I'm gonna grow all 5 with no topping or anything, to compare actual yields and potency and then from those ill pick the best pheno and run that a few more times
fingers crossed! Im sprouting them in soil like nature intended
Its a cross between a triangle kush pheno (3 way cross of unknown OGs from florida) which they call "the white" because of its frostiness, and a Fire OG (the clone only pheno).
I popped 5 seeds out of the 11 that were in the pack (got lucky with 1 extra!) Im pretty sure all the phenos will be keepers so itll be hard deciding which one/s to keep...
I'm gonna grow all 5 with no topping or anything, to compare actual yields and potency and then from those ill pick the best pheno and run that a few more times
fingers crossed! Im sprouting them in soil like nature intended
sykodelic
Member
Thanks man I appreciate it!
Well heres a little update on the seeds.... all 5 that i popped have sprouted and are already growing out of the soil much faster than I expected which is awesome...
heres the one leading the race
upthearsenal
Well-Known Member
Love the room fella, very well put together. I'm subbed up for this one. 
WiggyBluebez
Active Member
Looking good so far, Think Il sub! 
sykodelic
Member
so I havent been able to get any decent pics... but i was able to get a couple more warm up pictures...
the room is a little messy coz im still putting finishing touches but its pretty much done...
Im gonna use this first pic as a reference
this pic was taken from the veg room door... its my a/c, co2 tank (empty right now), and intake fan.
these next 3 pics were taken from that wall where the a/c or from the corner where the intake fan is
the girls... going into flowering starting today
this is a pic of the veg room... I didnt see the sense in having a 9 foot tall veg room, so i made it tall enough so that i can be there confortably but i left a space on top of the room which I will cover with panda film for cleanliness and use as my drying closet, and section off a piece if i need storage space.
the door is on the left in that picture, the next pic shows the veg room with the door open
a couple of pics of the veg room (still under construction)
and last but definitely not least...
white fire babies...
the girls from the top looking very healthy...
Sorry about the crappy quality guys! i will get some good pics soon!
the room is a little messy coz im still putting finishing touches but its pretty much done...
Im gonna use this first pic as a reference
this pic was taken from the veg room door... its my a/c, co2 tank (empty right now), and intake fan.
these next 3 pics were taken from that wall where the a/c or from the corner where the intake fan is
the girls... going into flowering starting today
this is a pic of the veg room... I didnt see the sense in having a 9 foot tall veg room, so i made it tall enough so that i can be there confortably but i left a space on top of the room which I will cover with panda film for cleanliness and use as my drying closet, and section off a piece if i need storage space.
the door is on the left in that picture, the next pic shows the veg room with the door open
a couple of pics of the veg room (still under construction)
and last but definitely not least...
white fire babies...
the girls from the top looking very healthy...
Sorry about the crappy quality guys! i will get some good pics soon!
kevin murphy
New Member
looks a decent setup lad..what plants are under the t5s lad