First Grow Stealth Bubbleponics

Ray Fox

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So the lights fell on the girls and burned some of the branches in the back a little :-(. So pissed off . Luckily the damage was minor and we tied up the lights with a shoe lace to the top of the box. Hopefully no more amateur slip ups like this will happen:wall:. Also we had to tie the branches down again because they keep getting too close to the lights and burning themselves. Bad girls!

On the plus side, the trichromes are beginning to develop in a nice white coating at the top of the buds, the girls keep getting hairier and the anxiousness of seeing them get nice and fat is unbearable!... :wink: never thought that sentence would be said... We're running out of box for the girls to grow!!!

P.S. Look for pics soon of some early trichs.


 

jigfresh

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Damn it jim... you know putting the light actually on the plant wont make it grow any faster... jk. Are you sure a shoe lace is a good solution. I would hate for it to happen again.

Glad your trichs are coming on... can't wait to see pics.
 

Ray Fox

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Damn it jim... you know putting the light actually on the plant wont make it grow any faster... jk. Are you sure a shoe lace is a good solution.

... By sure do you mean not-really-positive-this-will-work? Then yes sir, we're sure as sunshine. But seriously, there's no reason the thing shouldn't work. Its an oddly shaped light contraption with three prongs for each bulb and we tied it tight around the middle to balance it all. Trust me it wasn't our intention to make it fall in the first place ,but this is the LAST time we're using tape in a mildly humid place to suspend an object.
 

jigfresh

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Dude... seriously... I'm having a vision of the future. It is a post by you saying we have stopped using a shoelace and started using the string our sunday paper came wrapped in.

Tape, shoelace? You love your plants I can tell... don't you think you can show a little love to the light? A chain or something sturdy might be a good idea though... and cheap, like $2 at home depot.

I trust you if you say you are sure-as-sunshine. You are there and I am not... so I will take your word for it.

Not trying to bust your butt, I only want the best for you bro.
 

Ray Fox

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Not trying to bust your butt, I only want the best for you bro. !
Haha, thanks for the tough love Jig. And to Crazy for the clarification. :mrgreen: :joint: Okay, so:

1. Your sunday paper comes in a string? Weird. Ours just comes in a rubber band.

2. You're absolutely right about the shoelace. The thing is only that this was one of those We-didn't-have-much-else-at-the-time moments rather than choosing to do so voluntarily :roll:. For the future we do intend on tying it sturdily to the top of the box, chain is a bit heavy, so twine or rope (anything but sunday paper string!) will probably come into play to make this work better.

3. Does anyone know a better method of having the girls not grow into the lights?... Know how retarded that comes off but seriously, we keep tying them to the sides but they always manage to grow directly into the light and burn themselves. (Smoote's vertical scrog idea would have been brilliant here). Does anyone know how watercooled got his plants to grow around his bulb? We're probably just gonna stick to lots of training but its like a forest in there, you can barely get at the wire mesh to do anything.

 

motif

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man its pretty much too late for that now.. You shoulda prepared them better for your height restriction. Try moving them? Take off the lid of the box and hang the lights down in it? Otherwise your just gonna have to keep tying and breaking it to avoid burning em

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^^^ Those would be the simplest ways, if you got technical you could build some kind of glass lens around the bulbs, but that lowers lumens and more importantly is prolly way to difficult to do.

Just some shitty ideas fr ya haha
 

MostlyCrazy

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Had that little problem last grow. I used LST to keep them in line and you can still do it here. At Least I do and it works well. Trick is figuring out how much height restriction you need. I do it like this. Figure out how you where you are going to point the bud. Reach down to the second or third node below the bottom of the bud. Take your pointer finger and your thumb and hold the stem lke you would a pencil. Give the stem a little squeeze. What you are trying to do is just bruise the outside "covering" so it weakens a bit. Now let's say that squeeze was at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock. Now, put your fingers at 3 and 6 and squeeze again. Too little is better than too much. You may have to do it a couple of times with slightly increasing pressure. After each squeeze, try to bend the stem down. When it bends it should kind of fall over at about a 90 degree angle. This is actually good for the plant. It sends all kinds of repair/growth cells to the area and gam make your bud bigger by feeding on the excess.

This is probably not the best explanation but I do it often with good results and like everyting, you will improve with practice. I call it the Vulcan nerve pinch bu I'm MonstlyCrazy! Use the google and type LST or Low stress training and that should help.

To hang my lights I screw a brass cupholder ( wall-mart or HD/Lowes) into the ceiling and run white plastic chain I picked up at HD/Lowes. Lite weight/ Plenty strong enough! Links are about about an inch long and hold my 250watt and 105cfls just fine ( unless I just jinxed myself). You can cut the chains to size with a kitchen scissors. The CFL's are in reflectors and they grab the chain fine. On the 250Watt, I use a large S hook (hardware item again) to connect the mounting brackets at the top of the light to a chain link. Adjustment is a breaze! Just count chain links.

Those Sunday paper strings are like kite string. Not strong enough for a grow expect maybe a little bondage work! Mine comes to me in a plastic bag these days (waterproof but wasteful)

Hope it helps!
 

motif

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another reason chains and S hooks are better than strings, is because you can raise/lower them in 5 secs max. ! with strings, you gotta tie, un-tie, re-tie blah blah blah and its never as exact as you want it to be... Theyre just simpler man
 

Ray Fox

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Hi to all Ray's RIU friends and watchers, we just wanted to apologize for the late update. There have been many developments in our private lives which have kept us fairly distant from making any RIU contact.

Also, apologies for the lack of pics. Sadly had to lend the camera to mom for her trip to Italy (don't worry, no plant pics left on the memory card) but this leaves us without the chance to show any recent changes in the girls spectacular growth. And there have been many! So here's an update (and yes, we have fixed the light problem, details below).


1. Many buds have stopped growing and started to
get really fat and full. When taking a hand back from tending to the girls in the rear of the box, a lot of trichromes rub all over the arm and make you feel numb there. Its crazy. :eyesmoke:

2. The clones have taken root, pics and thread to come.


3. Some buds are still growing and we may have discovered a new technique: tiyng larger shoots down to each farthest corner of the screen, condenses their light use down to a single spot on the white walled box (Also being reflected back from three corners). :weed:That solves the space problem.

4. Odor Report: There is a very sweet, slightly citrusy smell coming off some of the buds. An almost sugary sweet sort of smell (try to say that ten time fast). :bigjoint::leaf::leaf::leaf:

Thanks guys, bear with us, only a couple more weeks now till we chop some girls down and do a nice smoke test. :peace:

-Ray Fox
 

motif

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triches rubbing on your arm makes your arm numb? you growing heroin inside those plants?

...very eagerly awaiting an update!

what week flowering are you? im day 45, week 7 i guess that is? indica is looking about 2 weeks from chop, and the sativa has JUST begun sorta filling out its skinny as colas, prolly another 4-5 weeks for her at least. Im glad ill have some smoke to hold me over while my sativa finishes, im getting ANCY. fucking broke as shit and cant even afford to buy a bag, Lol
 

Ray Fox

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triches rubbing on your arm makes your arm numb? you growing heroin inside those plants?

...very eagerly awaiting an update!

what week flowering are you? im day 45, week 7 i guess that is? indica is looking about 2 weeks from chop, and the sativa has JUST begun sorta filling out its skinny as colas, prolly another 4-5 weeks for her at least. Im glad ill have some smoke to hold me over while my sativa finishes, im getting ANCY. fucking broke as shit and cant even afford to buy a bag, Lol
Word dude, and again, sorry for the lack of update. Mom's still got the cam. And no we're not growing heroine haha but the trich's rubbing on the arm actually cause you to go numb in that area ( try it yourself, take a leaf, wet it and rub it on your arm for a little while and you'll start to feel a warming sensation come over that part of your body).

Our plants are looking about 2 weeks from chop too ( At least most of the buds are) but we can't seem to tell for sure (SORRY! PICS COMING!!!). We tried one of the lower buds :leaf:to see and as a sheer display of stupid anciness we didn't even bother to let it dry, just smoked it right after we cut if off... and it got us hiiiiiigh:blsmoke:. That little taste tester didn't help calm the excitement of a now 3 something month labor.

As of today, the girls are 31 days into flowering. We hope to get some pics to show you and help us figure out when they'll be done. :peace:

- Ray Fox
 

motif

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hey ray check out my journal bro in my sig, got my 2nd grow journal up....finally Lol
 

jigfresh

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Hey man... maybe just buy a camera at Target or something take some pics... and take it back. No loss but some time, eh?
 

Ray Fox

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No need Jig, here are the pics! Whew! :peace:So Below you guys can see some long awaited developments. There is a bit of what appears to be a potassium deficiency on some of the leaves which we remedied with the proper nutes. :bigjoint: The buds are getting so big that pretty soon we're gonna have to get them a training bra.:rolleyes:

So here they are ladies and gents
:joint:
 

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MostlyCrazy

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They look so pretty! When those colas start filling out even more that training bra idea ain't half bad! Looks like the have make-up on! I'm ready for my close-up Mr. DeMille!

Just cut my LSD grow today and for the last 3 weeks I got all kinds of creative in trussing my girls up. I released their bonds before I cut and half the brached fell over from the weight! Yippee! 3 plants, 4 coke can sized colas, lots of mid size buds and enough air buds to cover the lid on a 25 gallon tote 2" deep! Plants maxed out at 34" with a 250 watt HPS and some 105W CFL side lights. Might be time for me to spring for the 400 watt HPS, drill the hole for ventilation and go for the gusto now that I am confindent of my skills.

Your doing great Ray!
 

Ray Fox

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Thanks for the love guys! :mrgreen: Told ya we should wait for a better camera.

So here's a couple of questions:

1. There are lots of little underdeveloped bud sites with hairs on the bottoms of the branches. Should we let these keep growing or just pick them off?

2. The question of questions: How much longer till harvest!?! God, we just wanna taste these girls already! Sorry, we're ancy, but a month of no signs of flowering in 12/12 and watching a month of actual flowering will do that to you. We're guesstimating about 2 weeks for the buds to fill out (45 days of flowering) until harvest for some of the already larger Colas.

P.S. Hey Crazy can you please post some pics of your LSD? We'd really love to see the finished product of that beautiful strain.
 

jigfresh

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If you are saying you are 2 weeks from harvest... you are not accurate. I would say you are like 6 weeks from harvest or something based on the pictures. Not that they don't look good, but they look like a 10 year old girl... not a 35 year old lady.

5-6 weeks is my guess on harvest.

As for the bottom buds... I'm pondering the same exact thing with my clones. The bottom branches are just not developeing that great and I feel detracting from the tops.

I'm almost positive I'm going to pull some branches off, or some budsites.... but beware.... I beleive that pulling stuff off when in flowering makes the plants take longer. Just slows everything down for a bit. So keep that in mind when weighing your optinos. You would probably get a little better yeild/ quality moving the buds up on the plant, but you may be sacrificing a week or time.
 
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