First grow, what is my plant telling me?

Alienwidow

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Instead of posting threads on here from same source you should maybe read some
http://www.esf.edu/pubprog/brochure/soilph/soilph.htm
i can list tons of growing articles not just regurgitatingriu threads
Oh jeez, a ph chart? Please.... That posts no relevant info, weve all seen those, and any grower not on their first grow in their closet knows theyve run grows with water that phs at 8 and not had problems with "lockout".
 

Alienwidow

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lio lacidem

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Your missing the point dumbass. I dont ph but I know what ph issues look like and what issues they cause. His ph is off because his soil isnt buffering itself. The thread that you say agrees. With you says that they have too amend ffof soil with extradolomite lime in order to buffer properly. Then yes you dont need to worry about ph. What arent you getting.
 

Alienwidow

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Ok you have multiple issues imho. You have some nute burn from too much N. Also I belive you have a ph issue locking out calcium and phosphorus.
One more thing before i leave you to kick the dirt and piss and moan. Tell me what symptom of calcium deficiency you see on his plant. I asked you earlier and you dodged the question but you said you believed he had calcium lockout. Why dont you tell us what made you say that and stop dodging the question. My guess would be you read a chart with numbers on it. The op said his water runs high, he didnt even give a number it runs at, could be 7.2. Who knows? I know you dont know, yet you continue to argue your rightness.

Ph is off is something the grow store guy tells you when he doesnt have a clue.
 

lio lacidem

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One more thing before i leave you to kick the dirt and piss and moan. Tell me what symptom of calcium deficiency you see on his plant. I asked you earlier and you dodged the question but you said you believed he had calcium lockout. Why dont you tell us what made you say that and stop dodging the question. My guess would be you read a chart with numbers on it. The op said his water runs high, he didnt even give a number it runs at, could be 7.2. Who knows? I know you dont know, yet you continue to argue your rightness.

Ph is off is something the grow store guy tells you when he doesnt have a clue.
How many grows have you had? Im Interested to know?
 

Alienwidow

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Your missing the point dumbass. I dont ph but I know what ph issues look like and what issues they cause. His ph is off because his soil isnt buffering itself. The thread that you say agrees. With you says that they have too amend ffof soil with extradolomite lime in order to buffer properly. Then yes you dont need to worry about ph. What arent you getting.
Dumbass? You mad bro?
Well hes states growing In soil but doesnt say what kind of soil. Leads me to believe run of mill unamended soil. Unamended meaning nothing to buffer the ph. You only have to not worry about ph in a good well amended soil. Not all soil ph buffer. Also if you look at a nutrient ph absorption chart looks like p and cal get lcked out around same ph. You may wanna save your snarky attitude for someone else.
ive all sorts of soils, never amended them one bit. The plants did fine. I wish i had pics of my 12 foot wide girls in unphed soil. The only time i ph is when its bringing rock wool cubes to 5.5.
 

Alienwidow

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If you look besides the pale spots and fading leaves there are numerous brown spots. Heres some more reading also states that it happens in soil that wasnt amended and ph is low.
http://www.growweedeasy.com/calcium-deficiency-cannabis
Oh my god for fucks sakes! He never said his ph was low! And those symptoms are not showing at all on the plant. You made it all up and then went to bat over it. You sir deserve a prize for this thread. Well done sir. I applaud your tenacity. :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: A whole round of applause for the winner of this debate.
 

Chwonz

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I think your letting them get to dry then using to much water. A gallon of water is to much if you are in 3 gallon (12 liter) pots. If your in 5 gallon you are probably OK.
Also using nutes every other watering is not the way to go. There should be two or three plain watering between using nutes.

How big are your pots?
5 gal pots. When I don't mix in nutes the pH runs around 8
 
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