First Hydro Grow! Difference between "mild growth" and "growth"? Pictures included!

cavalettas

cavalettas

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Hi, I'm new, please don't make fun of me. my brother and i have been growing for 2 years now and recently started using a hydroponic Powergrower ECO drip system and the keep it simple recirculating floragro nutrient mix. on the feeding schedule it says it requires a certain amount for "mild growth" and then more for "growth", even more for "excessive growth" and i was curious to know what exactly they meant by that. could anyone tell me?

these are three of our clones

any damage to the leaves was on the plant before it was cut off the mother



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the clones are freshly rooted and were transplanted into the drip system 3 days ago and we have been feeding them the mild growth formula, running the light (100 watt equivalent, swirly lightbulb, forgot the name.) for 24 hours but we're going away on vacation and i want to top it off with enough water/food mix to last til we get back home. once we get home we'll be getting two bloomboss 14" square led lights. if we're doing anything wrong please let me know, indoor gardening is brand new to us haha

i'd love some help! thank you!:weed:​
 
Jer La Mota

Jer La Mota

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Well, how tall do you want your plant to be ?

a little - mid grow
HUGE - excessive ..

How much space do you have ?

They are simply telling you X amount results to X amount of growth .. (followinf the instructions obviously)

Hope this helps
 
cavalettas

cavalettas

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I've got about a 5x5' space about 6/7 feet high so i want them to grow pretty big. I switched to the aggressive growth feeding. thank you very much!
 
cavalettas

cavalettas

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we have 2 14watt bloomboss squares over it now, is that enough light? we're having quite a few problems now with overfeeding and leaf curling. the plants basically look well fucked.
 
Jer La Mota

Jer La Mota

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the fact that you have clones .. I would get a at least 250 watts metal halide, 400 is better, 600 is more .. some info.


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]MH vs. Incandescent[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
A 100 watt metal halide lamp provides five times the lumen output of a 100 watt incandescent lamp, and will last 20 times longer. Although incandescent has a low initial lamp cost, metal halide has lower total operating cost over life.

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]MH vs. Mercury[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
Vapor Mercury lamps have long life, but are not as energy efficient as metal halide, producing only 35-58 lumens per watt. Their limited blue-green light spectrum has a lower CRI than metal halide.

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]MH vs. HPS[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
While HPS lamps offer long life, they do not deliver the same light quality as metal halide. Because of their dominant sodium content, HPS lamps yield strong yellow light (2200K) and have a very poor CRI of 20-25. The full spectrum light of metal halide has a much higher CRI. [/FONT][/FONT]


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redivider

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hey you have to check the solution's ppm's and acidity.

most problems you see can be traced to one of these two things.

and you need more light. if you want a heavy bush you'll need between 250 and 400 watts of light...
 
cavalettas

cavalettas

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these plants all died, sadly, the ph and ppm went mental while we were on vacation and they went to shit. we're starting with new clones using LED lights, 2 14watt bloom boss 14" squares, do you think that will be fine? or should we add another light?
 
cavalettas

cavalettas

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by the way its only one clone, i'm currently waiting for it to root. we've started 3 seeds in peat plugs. thank you all for your help with sodium and halide, it's fantastic and i'll definitely be saving it.
 
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redivider

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i'd stay away from LED's.

they're expensive, and while they may save money on the long run, they're upfront cost + rather conflicting reports on their grow capabilities, just makes me stay away.

for small plants you can use a small CFL, and as they grow, you add more light.

i suggest getting a 4 pack of 26 watt daylights, use that for vegging your small clones, and then when your ready to flower get a 250 HPS....
 
cavalettas

cavalettas

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we've already got the leds, they were 10 dollars off each at the local hydro store so for two lights it cost about 70 dollars, not bad really. i'm more concerned about my parents electric bill than the cost of the lights. so far they've been doing really well, our plant has begun to bush out quite nicely https://www.rollitup.org/members/cavalettas-268888/albums/indoor-crop-progression-8-2010-13756/ see? i'll be updating to see how well the lights work, but overall i'm pleased!
 
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