First Hydro, small talk!

Got a few questions. Doing ebb & flow hydro for the first time. Got a few grow off of soil under my belt, but it's hydro time. I want to grow al b fuct systle. I have a 4x2 flood table for my flower room. Currently have clones waiting to show roots. Once they do, will plce them in pots with all perlite.

My main question for now is, al would always grow at 1400ppm on his flower tables. Does this mean he always use the same amount of nutes? The reason I ask is because I only have one flood table for flowering, and want too add clones every 2 weeks. Will this setup still work with the same nuts mixture for new clones to finish? I don't have the space for seperate flood tables.

Also, how often should I water with perlite? I'm using the large chunky fox farm version. And what time of the day should I water if the lights come on at say 7pm?

Will be using House & Garden for nutes, which seem to be very close to Canna nutes. I also have H202 (35%) Grade. Should be up and running ealry next week with a good batch of clones. Hope it runs smooth from here on out.

Anyone know the info I needs?

DeweyKox said:

Anyone know the info I needs?

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Of course i do.

My main question for now is, al would always grow at 1400ppm on his flower tables. Does this mean he always use the same amount of nutes?

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Yes he used a 1400 PPM for all his tanks and if you only have one table you only have one table. It should work ok until you want to get fancy and add somthing during week ??? thats the only thing i could think of why it would not work.

Also, how often should I water with perlite?

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Every 2 hours with lights on you could go 1-1/2 also its your call.

what time of the day should I water if the lights come on at say 7pm?

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7:15 and every 2 hours thereafter shutting down the water 1/2 hour before dark.

Good luck

Thanks for the info. I was just hoping to be able to add plants and strains once every 2-3 weeks on that same table. So this is not posivble?

sparkafire said:

Of course i do.





Yes he used a 1400 PPM for all his tanks and if you only have one table you only have one table. It should work ok until you want to get fancy and add somthing during week ??? thats the only thing i could think of why it would not work.



Every 2 hours with lights on you could go 1-1/2 also its your call.




7:15 and every 2 hours thereafter shutting down the water 1/2 hour before dark.

Good luck

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yeahh 858&619 represent

DeweyKox said:

Thanks for the info. I was just hoping to be able to add plants and strains once every 2-3 weeks on that same table. So this is not posivble?

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In my opinion you could do it, just make sure you change your soup every 2 weeks and it should work out fine.

Thanks sparkafire! That's what I needed to hear. 619 and 858 huh? One of those would be me! Will be growing belladonna, white rhino, and power skunk! Will start new journal once the clones are ready.

Man - check the forum first before you post. This question has been answered many times.

Man, that helps! Where were u when I needed that

1888cb said:

Man - check the forum first before you post. This question has been answered many times.

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Hmmm Dear 1888cb,

If you know me at all which you don't I despise members who just think they can post just a random question and get an answer to it soooooo i wont completely blast you for jumping on Mr Dk about not reading and researching his question you just don't have to be a dick about it.

The problem you have is that you don't know the difference between using hydro vs using hydro in a perpetual grow. if you did you would know that running a perpetual is JUST a little more complicated than you think and IF you were to do it right there are a lot of variables that you must consider.

So back to your "this question has been answered many times" I have been on here since June and have a grow in perpetual from scratch spent many hours on here reading and researching this topic and i have NEVER had or seen this question asked before

My main question for now is, al would always grow at 1400ppm on his flower tables. Does this mean he always use the same amount of nutes? The reason I ask is because I only have one flood table for flowering, and want too add clones every 2 weeks. Will this setup still work with the same nuts mixture for new clones to finish? I don't have the space for separate flood tables.

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i challenge you to find it.

Now it might be buried somewhere in the Al B fuct thread or Sir Stinkbug's grow a pound a day thread but i haven't seen it before so I gave the guy some help with my opinion.

So with that all being said I have found that if you find a thread that is offensive to your intellect please refrain from beating up someone just because you think your smarter than them. Yes I am beating up on you because its obvious that I am. Oh and if you want to continue this fight go to MY thread Perpetual Harvest Community and bring your A game.


Sincerely not sorry

Sparky



DK sorry for hijacking your thread.

Looking forward to your journal do you have your way your going to clone figured out? With a perpetual that is the hardest part to get going.

858 who? I only know 619

Thanks spark, yea I didn't want t say it, but dude is def a dick. Looked at a few other responses from the dick to other threads, same shit attitude. You would think smoking and growing pot would change that, but I guess not. Oh well, don't worry about hijacking the thread, thanks for calling him out. Oh well smoke a bowl!

Oh, this is my 4th grow and second time cloning! First batch of clones, I got 7 out of 8 to root. And I think I would have had all 8, but one was really small. Using rw w/ no nutes and little h202 ph'd at 5.7. Should be showing roots any day now. It's been 5 days.

Still no root......Waiting and wainting and :smoking:!

I just finished off 80% of my flower room. Sprayed with bleach, & Neem Oil(bugspray), and letting it dry out. Then will wire in and out on a GFI connection, and put my tables in and test it out with timing for watering,then dump, dry out, ready to make soup!

Will post pics once its up and running hopefully tonight. If not tommorow. Should be good timing once the clones come in, setup will be running and ready.

5 days on the clones and so far no root. I'm guessing day 8 will be there day to show roots. Currently have plywood/heat mat/tray/cube tray with clones. Not sure if the heat is getting to them.

Thinking either placing dome on top to get more heat and humidity, or taking the cube tray away, and place cubes in bottom tray for more heat. Or should I just leave it the way it is now?

DeweyKox said:

5 days on the clones and so far no root. I'm guessing day 8 will be there day to show roots. Currently have plywood/heat mat/tray/cube tray with clones. Not sure if the heat is getting to them.

Thinking either placing dome on top to get more heat and humidity, or taking the cube tray away, and place cubes in bottom tray for more heat. Or should I just leave it the way it is now?

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Ahh the joys of cloning.......... I cant help you with that unless your using an areo cloner. If you have researched Al B Fucts RW cloning system you should be good to go.

Last question, I have 21 inches from grow medium to cooltube, still an issue, or do I need to take smaller clones. Current ones are about 4-7 inches. I know Al took 9 inch clones. Trying to figure out how much taller there going to get? Temps should be good, but will test it tonight. The only way to get more height is to get the tank out from underneath the flood table and build a lower setup, but I don't ahve the time and the money. I might extend the height of the top, but would really have to cut up the wood shelf from a house that I rent.

I figure the clones will double and a half in hieght. So if I take a 4" clone it should be around 10" at harvest or a 7" clone should be 17" at harvest, is this about right. Cause if so, I can still use the current setup, and grow them short. Unless the Sativa strains will out grow that height. Most of my strains are indica, or hybrid to grow short like the belladonna's. Might need to get Haze #3. Will see how they come out.

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Liar!! LOL

I have 21 inches from grow medium to cooltube

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Geez thats not alot you need 5 ft or so table to light to do it right

or do I need to take smaller clones

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You can take smaller clones but you still will end up higher than 21 inches

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The only way to get more height is to get the tank out from underneath the flood table and build a lower setup, but I don't ahve the time and the money. I might extend the height of the top, but would really have to cut up the wood shelf from a house that I rent.

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This is something your going to have to work out before you start. nothing like trying to build around an existing grow. Dont ask how i know this.

Dam, and the GFI i have connected to both rooms just popped. Maybe I should Ditch it. I have both 400W(Veg) and 600W(flower) on its own 15AMP breaker. The GFI popped but never had in issue with the 15AMP breaker. Should I ditch the GFI, or only use it at the pumps for the rez? GFI popped only with the 600 and 6" fan on.....Flood Table Size: 4X2X7"

Looks like I am on my way back to Home Depo.

I have 4 1/2 feet top to bottom that I am working with all together. Its just by the time I place the rez, table & cool tube the distance from sprout to cooltube is 21 inches. I'm going to smoke a bowl before I pull my hari out of my head. I have no clue WTF I'm going to do at this point. I thought for sure 21 inches would have been fine.

DeweyKox said:

Dam, and the GFI i have connected to both rooms just popped. Maybe I should Ditch it. I have both 400W(Veg) and 600W(flower) on its own 15AMP breaker. The GFI popped but never had in issue with the 15AMP breaker. Should I ditch the GFI, or only use it at the pumps for the rez? GFI popped only with the 600 and 6" fan on.....Flood Table Size: 4X2X7"

Looks like I am on my way back to Home Depo.

I have 4 1/2 feet top to bottom that I am working with all together. Its just by the time I place the rez, table & cool tube the distance from sprout to cooltube is 21 inches. I'm going to smoke a bowl before I pull my hari out of my head. I have no clue WTF I'm going to do at this point. I thought for sure 21 inches would have been fine.

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Do your math do you have too many amps running ?

I have not added up the amps yet, but I only had the 600 on and the 6 inch can fan to test temps.Will take a look at all electronics and add them all up.

Here is a pic what the flower room that I am working on. Bottom of flood table to light is 29 inches. I could at the most with out having to tear shit down could gain another inch of 2.

Might have to find a different low profile rez tank. I need a 25 gallon, and this is all they had at the shop......FUCK!