First Serious Grow!

Howdy RIU,
Been lurking and learning up for a few years now but never got around to posting anything...Anyways this year will be my first seriously planned outdoor attempt. Previously I have taken the 'toss these out in the woods and see what happens' approach. Now two buddies and I are steppin' it up a notch. All advice and help is greatly appreciated and will be considered! Here's the sitch:

Guerrilla style, Mid-Atlantic region
Germing 30 bagseed (counting on atleast 15 surviving ladies)
There will be 10 spots w/ 3 plants each spread throughout a roughly 300 acre forested park. Does this sound like too small of a park to risk it???
The scouted area is surrounded by marsh, lake, and stream and is quite fertile and moist, so I suppose a 60:40 ratio of native:introduced topsoil will work wonders and watering will not be an issue.
Sadly, we won't be going organic because we are going for higher yield and efficiency. Have yet to decide all the nutes but the operation is only beginning so no stress, but we have general ideas yadayadayada......
Seedling stage will take place in a small greenhouse tent for the first 2-3 weeks and we'll transport them to the location in frame backpacks.
The main problem I suppose will be bugs deer and rabbits. Will try to keep them at bay with BT, dog shit, barbershop sweepings and natural barriers.

OK, so that's just the gist of the plan...pretty basic and orthodox (so i hope). If you see any major problems with the plan thus far, please alert me! This won't be kick starting till around 4/20 I'd say , but I'm too anxious to not post about the operation.

here are some questions to ask yourself
How often do you plan to water? or are you going to let nature take care of it?
Are they open to morning and afternoon sun? (here its 10-4, what we look for when considering lots)
From an above view, would the plants be in a line or are they scattered? A line is very noticeable
If you plant in pots you can protect yourself from rabbits, i have yet to have bugs or deer to be a problem.
Something i'd like to know is, your reasoning on organic soil taking away from yield and efficiency.
also is this your first time growing at this spot?
and be careful not to burn the seedlings up in the green house, its easy.

Thanks growUS,
I plan to water atleast twice a week or more judging on how harsh the summer turns out. Also the general spot is completely surrounded by water sources, so if I don't live up to that strictly , I don't think there will be much harm done. We chose spots with good southern clearing, and pots certainly reduce the stress of digging for 10 hours, but I'm looking to be as stealthy as possible. I'll arrange the plants in naturally occuring pattern. The reason I'm so concerned with deer is because all around the scouted location were deer tracks and deer trails. Yea...I'm really into going organic, and we'll definately use some compost, potash, molasses etc... but my friend has convinced me that inorganic offers more bang and boom, with less time spent composting and gathering organic materials. Yes this is the 1st time at this spot. Uh ohh about the greenhouse, maybe we'll try to find a way to have a cfl setup for 2 weeks.
Thanks for the input
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No no don't stray away from the green house(i doubt you really would lol), just watch them carefully at first. If they are an inch tall they should do fine. i might start them under the cfls but they will love the greenhouse.
sounds good tho man. I just thought you might have some concrete evidence on inorganic being better, imo the quality is top notch when i use organic.. but since your using pots regular ferts should work great.- i was worried about salt build up if u were doing it in ground... also how big are your pots?
just get a handle on those deer & if you would like info on ferts just ask.

I don't grow outdoor. But when I was in high school (quite some time ago ) .... I worked in a nursery and the master gardener there always would tell people to use blood meal around the area their gardens were in to keep deer and rabbits and such away. Apparently they smell the dried blood and turn the other way. It's certainly more compact to backpack in than dog poop! Checkit:

http://www.the-organic-gardener.com/blood-meal.html

Hope this helps!

thanks i'll try that 2

growUS said:

thanks i'll try that 2

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always glad to help! I love to see people use these forums to pass knowledge. Sometimes the posts get sort of adversarial because I guess folks are so darn passionate about their beliefs, methods, and contraptions . I get it, but it does sort of bum me out to be nice and ripped and then see a good thread go bad because people get to arguing. So in essence. Thank you for thanking me

yea man, we'll never get anywhere if we argue about little things... im just glad they are so many ppl committed to MJ.... ppl have died for growing it, ppl should be killed over a plant.

should be killed? lol thats a little harsh! i used bone and blood meal in my pots and the pots smell like ass. literal ass. one morning i woke up and one pot was full of ants. it also attracts little gnats and bugs. so watch out!

damn, i guess i shouldn't have forgotten the n't on should lol... ppl should not be killed over growing a plant.... my father was.

If it's not prying, how was your father killed?

thanks guys...
GrowUS maybe I worded that badly, but Im not using pots as they would attract attention if there were to be any close encounters. And yea I may take you up on the fert advice later on in the season. RIP to your father.. That's tough man...went out like a true OG.
Dankasaurus, hmm sounds good, blood seems like it would cut to the chase alot better than pounds of dung .And yes! there is no point to arguing...after all agriculture is all about TLC and harmony.
Speaking of ants, my beloved cactus plant has been dying and I just discovered a full fledged ant colony in the pot today . I'll try to avoid that happening to the crop!

oh sorry (i bury my pots sometime, for added support) i hope your harvest is good.

Thats what im sayin! lol But killing over a plant is ridiculous. Sorry to hear that, bud.

Don't forget to cover up the tilled soil with camouflage for extra stealth... just saying...

Oh and check these out. Please contribute whatever you may have/find.
https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/420407-avoiding-cultivation-detection.html
https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/420270-u-s-grow-resource-thread.html

its good to hear some ppl actually care and think its wrong to be killed over some plants, not many ppl here does. one thing i can add is helis look for foot paths in woods and trash (milk jugs or water bottles) to help lead them to your lots. I try my best to follow deer trails or make my trails no bigger than deer trails, even if i have to bend down a lot.

Very smart. Thanks for the input.

Thanks for those Canada. Look like some pretty trustly useful sources.

It has been a long asssss time since I have posted on here..Had a lot of delays on getting this all started because of work overload, but we finally got out today and planted 18 lil' ones that have been in my friends yard for a month. Cleared out a 7'X20' patch of 5 foot tall stinging nettle (painful, but the spot was perfect and worth it), then tilled in scott's garden soil with compost,bloodmeal, and lime. We decided to go organic in the end since this isn't as bigscale as we first dreamed. I'm real stoked and glad we FINALLY got out, but I was expecting more that 18 babies to survive of the 30 something we started.

Pics in the next few days!

View attachment 1740860View attachment 1740863Alright, I finally remembered to bring a camera along..Still feel a lil' sketch about uploading photos, but I need to as there are some problems. We have super high humidity here in the mid-atlantic, and it has been raining non-stop for the past week or so, so I've got some mold issues.Here's where I'm at right now :

-2.5 weeks flower
-had 11/18 girls as of last week, but this week, one decided to switch back to male (plucked him up of course), so now its 10 girls
-the few females surrounding the reversed sex one now have a shite ton of seeds popping up. ~Is it advised to pull off early seeds or not???~
-Is it normal for leaves to turn yellow and fall off at the bottom??
-As you can see I have some fungus problems, mostly black spots in areas with leaves becoming deformed and shriveled..any advise? I heard to get an antifungal spray "Serenade??"

thanks