first time grower needs help!

Barberaren

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Soil: Organic from local foodstore according to pac it should be 5,5-6,5 ph, I mixed it with vermaculite and perlite and put leca in the bottom
Pots: 3,5l square pots, equals 1gallon i think
Lights: CFL 1x 200w 2700k, 1x 200w 6500k both with reflectors, 2x 23w 2700k
Temperature: it stays between 22 & 28 Celsius with lights on
RH: between 20% & 60% depending on how long since watering, at night its 85%!! because i cant have the fan on
Age: havnt really been keeping track but 1,5 week veg 18/6, and maybe 2-3 weeks of 12/12
Watering & nurtients: watering every 3-4 days when soil i dry, been using GO Biothrive Bloom and Bat guano since they showed sex
Space: 65x60 cm closet (almost 2 sqarefeet i think) Packed with 8 ladies
Strain: BubbleGummer, Lemon Kush and Grapefriut all from Female Seeds

as soon as they started flowering there where yellowing fan leaves at the bottom but it has spread and evolved alot on the bubblegummers, and alittle bit on the lemon kush, at first i thaugt it was lack of nutes (used half of whats recomended on the bottle) but the yellowing continued at same pace when i upped the dose. So i thaugt it was a nuteburn so i watered with only water this last watering 2 days ago, but it got ALOT worse and i realize that something is missing, i figured it was because i didnt use any grow nutrients?. im a total noob so i need help in what's wrong and what i need to save them (i have read every guide on every webpage and everyones threads and journals haha all i got was more confusion)

the pics are the bubblegummers and one pic of a lemon kush showing something i verry much hope isnt hermafrodite because then all of them are hermies!
hope you understand my bad english thanks in advance and pls only love dont need hate <3 <3 <3
 

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darb808

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seems like the nitrogen in the soil ran out and not enough in the water with soil it takes longer to see changes when you add more nutes. not like hydro.yellowing towards harvest is normal but yours started a bit early.not sure on those black spots though and the pic of the possible herm not very clear. hopefully someone else can help more.
 

AlGore

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I had what was perceived as N def and looked like yours only not as bad. That lower leaf on the 2nd to last pic looks almost exactly like the worst leaf on mine, which never really recovered, turned green again but that one leaf just didn't come back, hehe.

My best growing plant is in FFOF and not getting any nutes at all but in week 4 it was like the soil ran out of nutes, now im feeding it like the others and it's fucking huge.

I was advised to fill with h20 then the next day start feeding N. I ended up almost doubling my nute concentrations over the next 10 days and my plants took off like crazy. I'm using flora series. Overall I bumped the Micro up from 5ml to 8ml but also went from 5ml up to 7ml on the Gro, increased the Bloom from 2.5 to 4ml, doubled the flora plus from 1ml to 2ml, etc, etc.

Increasing the concentrations incrementally of course.

PS> I'm growing DP Blueberry from rooted clones, I've read they love nutes, esp in hydro.
 

pleasureplex

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This is just my noob opinion but to me it looks like a deficiency. I feel your best bet to fix the problem easily would be to transplant them up into bigger containers. How long have they been in the 1 gal containers?

Also on a side note try to lower your humidity at night 85% is pretty high, you wouldn't want to develop mold on your ladies...
 

Y0da

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More nutes, DEFINITELY more light, less humidity and perhaps a dose of calmag
 

robro

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Ive had leaves go like that in the past through using too much Bat Guano,its powerful stuff!
I noticed the NPK of your Bat shit is 2-15-2,mine is 1-10-1 and really fucked things up for me.
Too much P can lock out other nutes and you will get all kinds of defs.
If they were my plants i would flush them,and stop feeding BG Extract for a couple of weeks.
Or use it very sparingly.
This is only my opinion,through my experience of using too much BG.
Perhaps a more experienced grower than me will come up with a different diagnosis.
Good luck,i hope you get it sorted.
 

RIKNSTEIN

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You have a serious toxicity going on there bro...how much runoff do you have when you water/feed? And, do you feed every time you water them? What I would do is...JMO...mix up about 3 gal (for each plant) of 1/2 strength flower nutes with 1/2 teaspoon epsom salts and hit them babies and leave em' alone for about 3-4 days...those leaves will never heal, but you should have new growth in 4-5 days...you should have runoff every time you water/feed...and if it's a healthy plant and you have good soil you should be on a schedule of water/water/feed...good luck, and quit lovin em to death...lol...
 

Barberaren

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This is just my noob opinion but to me it looks like a deficiency. I feel your best bet to fix the problem easily would be to transplant them up into bigger containers. How long have they been in the 1 gal containers?Also on a side note try to lower your humidity at night 85% is pretty high, you wouldn't want to develop mold on your ladies...
i wont be able to transfer them to bigger for diffrent reasons :( but the humidity is gonna be a problem as buds grow but i will fix it this week so im not too worried :)
More nutes, DEFINITELY more light, less humidity and perhaps a dose of calmag
The light is enough I'm sure! 450W in a 60 cm2 small cab, but it could be magnesium, a frend of mine looked at the pics and he thinks its magnesium so i got epsom salt and gonna try that :)
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Ive had leaves go like that in the past through using too much Bat Guano,its powerful stuff!
I noticed the NPK of your Bat shit is 2-15-2,mine is 1-10-1 and really fucked things up for me.
Too much P can lock out other nutes and you will get all kinds of defs.
If they were my plants i would flush them,and stop feeding BG Extract for a couple of weeks.
Or use it very sparingly.
This is only my opinion,through my experience of using too much BG.
Perhaps a more experienced grower than me will come up with a different diagnosis.
Good luck,i hope you get it sorted.



This is possible too cause i give them alot of this, my confusion is that guano says on the bottle 1l guano for 100 liter which too me is 1dl for 10liter while the bloom nutes is only like 5ml per 10liter. is this wrong of me? or ami doing it right haha :)

so when they dry up again i fill first flush them and feed with small dose guano and regular bloom dose with some added epsom salt and see if it improves!

THANK YOU ALL this was verry helpful and verry nice people on this forum it seems, I will definetly stay here and maybe start a journal! bless and love to you all :)<3
 

chairroller

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i wont be able to transfer them to bigger for diffrent reasons :( but the humidity is gonna be a problem as buds grow but i will fix it this week so im not too worried :)

The light is enough I'm sure! 450W in a 60 cm2 small cab, but it could be magnesium, a frend of mine looked at the pics and he thinks its magnesium so i got epsom salt and gonna try that :)

This is possible too cause i give them alot of this, my confusion is that guano says on the bottle 1l guano for 100 liter which too me is 1dl for 10liter while the bloom nutes is only like 5ml per 10liter. is this wrong of me? or ami doing it right haha :)

so when they dry up again i fill first flush them and feed with small dose guano and regular bloom dose with some added epsom salt and see if it improves!

THANK YOU ALL this was verry helpful and verry nice people on this forum it seems, I will definetly stay here and maybe start a journal! bless and love to you all :)<3

Even if you been giving them a lot of this nutrients, 2-3-4 is a low concentration, you may need more if you want to grow it ! It's not on a flowering stage is it ? so you gonna need to put a lot of nitrogen, more than P or K ! So choose something like 15-6-6 or 20-10-10 ! Cheers ! :leaf:
 

Barberaren

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Even if you been giving them a lot of this nutrients, 2-3-4 is a low concentration, you may need more if you want to grow it ! It's not on a flowering stage is it ? so you gonna need to put a lot of nitrogen, more than P or K ! So choose something like 15-6-6 or 20-10-10 ! Cheers ! :leaf:
they in full bloom! stopped stretching about a week ago:) so you think i should increase the nutrient dose? i have not given them a single full dose yet (2ml per liter) thank you! :)
 

spliffbuddy

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I have a horrible suspicion your big problem may be the inset of mould of some kind. Your RH is sky high for veg let alone flower. Hope i'm wrong.
 
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