First time grower - Northern Lights Autoflower - Lumatek Zeus 600w Pro

Day 40
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Temp : 26-29C
RH : 60
Light : 100% @ 60cm for 18h (average of 35.000 LUX)
Water : 800ml of nutrient mix twice times a day
EC : 1.4
Video update :
Our biggest girl is drooping all day, I don't really know whats going on with her. She's feeding very good, because when I water her twice a day, her pot feels lighter than all others.
Our tent is heating up a bit due to the 100% intensity, currently sitting at 28C average.

Nutrient solution
Rhino Skin : 1,5ml/L
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
Piranha : 1.5ml/L
Tarantula : 1.5ml/L
Nirvana : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Big Bud Coco : 1ml/L

NPK All The Way said:

Day 40
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Temp : 26-29C
RH : 60
Light : 100% @ 60cm for 18h (average of 35.000 LUX)
Water : 800ml of nutrient mix twice times a day
EC : 1.4
Video update :

Our biggest girl is drooping all day, I don't really know whats going on with her. She's feeding very good, because when I water her twice a day, her pot feels lighter than all others.
Our tent is heating up a bit due to the 100% intensity, currently sitting at 28C average.

Nutrient solution
Rhino Skin : 1,5ml/L
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
Piranha : 1.5ml/L
Tarantula : 1.5ml/L
Nirvana : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Big Bud Coco : 1ml/L

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I suspect you're having issues because of heat. Remember as the plants get older, they need the temperature to go down.

Once you do some lollipopping, it's going to improve the air float dramatically. That itself will help keep the tent cooler.

As for the sad lady, I would hold off on making any firm decisions until after the defoliating. It looks like she's just starting her stretch.

Are you planning on feeding the same nutrient regimen throughout the grow? I might want to start adjusting for the flowers.

When I water, I just use one of these

Sweetmesss said:

I suspect you're having issues because of heat. Remember as the plants get older, they need the temperature to go down.

Once you do some lollipopping, it's going to improve the air float dramatically. That itself will help keep the tent cooler.

As for the sad lady, I would hold off on making any firm decisions until after the defoliating. It looks like she's just starting her stretch.

Are you planning on feeding the same nutrient regimen throughout the grow? I might want to start adjusting for the flowers.

When I water, I just use one of these
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Yes I was also thinking about watering with this, problem is I have no idea of how much im giving and with 18 plants thats alot of nutes Im about to waste. I did a flush today hoping it helps with salt builtup...thnx for the suggestions!

Day 41
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Temp : 26-29C
RH : 60
Light : 100% @ 60cm for 18h (average of 35.000 LUX)
Water : 800ml of nutrient mix twice times a day
EC : 1.4
Video update :
Today we gave all the girls a 2L flush mixed with 2ml/L of Flawless finish, hoping to solve the issue with the drooping girl. At first glance all seemed to work, but after we did our first water feeding (6h later) the drooping started to happen yet again.
We did some lollipopping today and major defoliation to get some better airflow and give the budsites some space, because they were PACKED!

Nutrient solution
Rhino Skin : 1,5ml/L
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
Piranha : 1.5ml/L
Tarantula : 1.5ml/L
Nirvana : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Big Bud Coco : 1ml/L

Is it possible you're over-watering? Mine are just a slight darker green.

All right brah, I have been giving your grow some heavy thinking.

The flawless finish seems like a great idea. Magnesium is great. Normally I give mine Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate). Sometimes I'll also brew a tea with some salts and spray it on my ladies. I spray the day before I plan on watering.

Have you looked into diatomaceous earth? I don't hear too many people on here talking about it enough. If you were to try to mix it into your medium, you're going to significantly increase your ability to hold moisture. That means that all of your fertilizers and juices are going to be able to go that much further. I mean, if you're going to go through the trouble to give your ladies premium juice, What the maximize the benefits. This will also mean your roots will dry slower so fewer waterings needed.

Diatomaceous earth also holds other great things. 3% magnesium, 5% sodium, 2% iron, 19% calcium, and 33% silica.

Secondly the reason why I'm suggesting it is because you're planning on doing some defoliating. It is 33% silica. Silica helps you have a bigger yield and reduce plants stress. Plus if you have the diatomaceous earth in the growing medium, less chances for potential Hermes. You're entering into a more temperamental phase. Set yourself up for a success brah wink-face

All looking good so far... I was just watchin a Migro vid on that light this morning....very highly rated !! ... Can I ask though....how are you uploading videos ??? - STELTHY

Day 42
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Temp : 26-29C
RH : 60
Light : 75% @ 60cm for 18h (average of 35.000 LUX)
Water : 800ml of nutrient mix twice times a day
EC : 1.4
Video update :
Still no solution to our drooping issue, but we did find out a solution for our gravity feed system.

Nutrient solution
Rhino Skin : 1,5ml/L
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
Piranha : 1.5ml/L
Tarantula : 1.5ml/L
Nirvana : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Big Bud Coco : 1ml/L

Day 43
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Temp : 25C
RH : 60
Light : 100% @ 60cm for 18h (average of 35.000 LUX)
Water : 500ml once
EC : 1.4
Video update :
Today I waited 24h before I watered any of the girls. I then continued to flush the big girl in the tent with 30L (7 gallons) of PH'd water before EC was 0, however PH just wouldnt drop to 5.5ph but stayed at 6.2

After the flush I gave all plants 500ml of nutrients, except for the big girl, I gave her another 4L of nutrient (1 gallon) before EC at the bottom was around 1.2EC

Nutrient solution
Rhino Skin : 1,5ml/L
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
Piranha : 1.5ml/L
Tarantula : 1.5ml/L
Nirvana : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Big Bud Coco : 1ml/L

NPK All The Way said:

Day 43
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Nutrient solution
Rhino Skin : 1,5ml/L
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
Piranha : 1.5ml/L
Tarantula : 1.5ml/L
Nirvana : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Kitchen Sink: 3 Tons /L
Used Panties: As many as possible/L
Unicorn Shit: 2 poops/L
A Nipple Clamp and 4 x 8" lengths of Spaghetti cut into 1/4" pieces

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Sorry but you have a fuck fuck fuck ton of nutes here and it's far far too much.

Really not needed and will not make the difference you are expecting.

Seriously, you are heading for potential issues and your feeding routine will be the cause.

This is not doing them good, its polluting them.

Twice as much is not always twice as good.

Personally, I use only Ecothrive Charge (mix it with my medium, 60/40 Soil/Coco) and just 1ml per ltr of Buddhas Tree Organicus all in one veg and bloom.

You are really wasting your money pal and also run the risk of massive issues. I can see you are totally devoted to this grow (vids, every update, keen etc) but ffs, do yourself a favor before its too late.

KK26 said:

Sorry but you have a fuck fuck fuck ton of nutes here and it's far far too much.

Really not needed and will not make the difference you are expecting.

Seriously, you are heading for potential issues and your feeding routine will be the cause.

This is not doing them good, its polluting them.

Twice as much is not always twice as good.

Personally, I use only Ecothrive Charge (mix it with my medium, 60/40 Soil/Coco) and just 1ml per ltr of Buddhas Tree Organicus all in one veg and bloom.

You are really wasting your money pal and also run the risk of massive issues. I can see you are totally devoted to this grow (vids, every update, keen etc) but ffs, do yourself a favor before its too late.

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What do u suggest me using out of the entire lineup? What do I need to cut out?

NPK All The Way said:

What do u suggest me using out of the entire lineup? What do I need to cut out?

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I do not know what to cut out because I've never had the desire to use all that shit.

I said what I use and you will find most experienced grower use very little and will all tell you its far far too much.

Sorry but I'm not going to work it all out for you looking at every NPK ratio because it's all BS.

really are wasting money and also setting yourself up for trouble. Lucky you only have 1 girl that is unhappy so far. That one in particular is sad as fuck, droopy, weak with narrow skinny leaves. It's sick and using all that shit well negatively effect your result.

You know a lot already so I am certain if you are going to drop some you'll know which ones if not all.

Drop everything except your base.
The only additives I'd keep would be Bud Factor X (and when its gone, don't bother repurchasing) Its just monocyclics, chitosan, and magnesium sulfate
Maybe keep the Big Bud coco. That's an OK boost for transition.

That's it. That's all you need to bring those to a bountiful harvest.

Voodoo Juice, Tarantula, and Piranha have been lab tested and shown to have NO spore counts detected. Its basically super expensive water.
Rhino Skin is overpriced silica
Bud Candy is just Mag Sul or Epsom Salt

If you feel like you'd benefit from an incoculation of bennies, Photo Plus has a good spore count.

There's really only a few supplements that can benefit a grower and none of them are game changers.

- Fulvic and Humics aid in nutrient uptake and overall health (Ful-Power is the best one I've found)
- Amino acids - assist in Ca uptake and help fight salt build up.
- Ascophyllum Nodosum (good kelp) provides lots of aminos, sugars, vitamins, and cytokines. (good for stressed plants)
- Chitosan - induces SAR
- Salicylic acid - (Phytohormones) aid in uptake and bioavailability. Also aids in pest and pathogen resistance

If you learn to use your base and maybe slowly experiment with others. If you can dial those in, you'll be golden.

Tangerine_ said:

Drop everything except your base.
The only additives I'd keep would be Bud Factor X (and when its gone, don't bother repurchasing) Its just monocyclics, chitosan, and magnesium sulfate
Maybe keep the Big Bud coco. That's an OK boost for transition.

That's it. That's all you need to bring those to a bountiful harvest.

Voodoo Juice, Tarantula, and Piranha have been lab tested and shown to have NO spore counts detected. Its basically super expensive water.
Rhino Skin is overpriced silica
Bud Candy is just Mag Sul or Epsom Salt

If you feel like you'd benefit from an incoculation of bennies, Photo Plus has a good spore count.

There's really only a few supplements that can benefit a grower and none of them are game changers.

- Fulvic and Humics aid in nutrient uptake and overall health (Ful-Power is the best one I've found)
- Amino acids - assist in Ca uptake and help fight salt build up.
- Ascophyllum Nodosum (good kelp) provides lots of aminos, sugars, vitamins, and cytokines. (good for stressed plants)
- Chitosan - induces SAR
- Salicylic acid - (Phytohormones) aid in uptake and bioavailability. Also aids in pest and pathogen resistance

If you learn to use your base and maybe slowly experiment with others. If you can dial those in, you'll be golden.

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Thank you for this reply!

Day 44
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Temp : 25C
RH : 60
Light : 100% @ 60cm for 18h (average of 35.000 LUX)
Water : 900ml once
EC : 1.4
Video update :
Today we put the lights higher, and I think flushing her in combination with the lights higher solved her problem.

I worked alot on the gravity feeding system, which ill update tomorrow!

Nutrient solution
Rhino Skin : 1,5ml/L
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
Piranha : 1.5ml/L
Tarantula : 1.5ml/L
Nirvana : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Big Bud Coco : 1ml/L

Day 45
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Temp : 25C
RH : 55
Light : 75% @ 60cm for 18h (average of 35.000 LUX)
Water : 1500ml once
EC : 1.4
Video update :
Today we lollipopped & defoliated the entire left side of our tent, we also got an airconditioning to keep our temps just where we want them to be!
I also give u an insight in how much my operation costs so far! We are still watering only once a day, so far they seem to like it alot more. However they are drinking between 1.5L & 2L per plant at this point!

Nutrient solution
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Big Bud Coco : 1ml/L

Tangerine_ said:

Drop everything except your base.
The only additives I'd keep would be Bud Factor X (and when its gone, don't bother repurchasing) Its just monocyclics, chitosan, and magnesium sulfate
Maybe keep the Big Bud coco. That's an OK boost for transition.

That's it. That's all you need to bring those to a bountiful harvest.

Voodoo Juice, Tarantula, and Piranha have been lab tested and shown to have NO spore counts detected. Its basically super expensive water.
Rhino Skin is overpriced silica
Bud Candy is just Mag Sul or Epsom Salt

If you feel like you'd benefit from an incoculation of bennies, Photo Plus has a good spore count.

There's really only a few supplements that can benefit a grower and none of them are game changers.

- Fulvic and Humics aid in nutrient uptake and overall health (Ful-Power is the best one I've found)
- Amino acids - assist in Ca uptake and help fight salt build up.
- Ascophyllum Nodosum (good kelp) provides lots of aminos, sugars, vitamins, and cytokines. (good for stressed plants)
- Chitosan - induces SAR
- Salicylic acid - (Phytohormones) aid in uptake and bioavailability. Also aids in pest and pathogen resistance

If you learn to use your base and maybe slowly experiment with others. If you can dial those in, you'll be golden.

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I learned a lot as well from your post. I was trying to look up all of the ingredients that those guys are using. I found it to be obnoxious all the fancy names. In my head, if you're going to have the customer have to dig for information something must be wrong with the product. They're just simply out there to make the most money.

KK26 said:

I do not know what to cut out because I've never had the desire to use all that shit.

I said what I use and you will find most experienced grower use very little and will all tell you its far far too much.

Sorry but I'm not going to work it all out for you looking at every NPK ratio because it's all BS.

really are wasting money and also setting yourself up for trouble. Lucky you only have 1 girl that is unhappy so far. That one in particular is sad as fuck, droopy, weak with narrow skinny leaves. It's sick and using all that shit well negatively effect your result.

You know a lot already so I am certain if you are going to drop some you'll know which ones if not all.

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I see your point, but brah you could have said it a little gentler. Don't crush the man's spirit for wanting to grow.

NPK All The Way said:

Day 45
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Temp : 25C
RH : 55
Light : 75% @ 60cm for 18h (average of 35.000 LUX)
Water : 1500ml once
EC : 1.4
Video update :

Today we lollipopped & defoliated the entire left side of our tent, we also got an airconditioning to keep our temps just where we want them to be!
I also give u an insight in how much my operation costs so far! We are still watering only once a day, so far they seem to like it alot more. However they are drinking between 1.5L & 2L per plant at this point!

Nutrient solution
Sensizym : 1,5ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom A : 2ml/L
Sensi Coco Bloom B : 2ml/L
Voodoo Juice : 2ml/L
B-52 : 1ml/L
Bud Factor X : 1.5ml/L
Bud Candy : 1ml/L
Big Bud Coco : 1ml/L

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Yay! Your girls are looking so great. You're doing a great job bro.

Over-watering:
I am loving the color I'm seeing. The green is really starting to come through. The one that you said that isn't very happy in the bottom left hand corner.

To me, She's looking the healthiest. But probably could benefit with more light. I would say aim for that sort of coloring.

Defoliating:
I agree with what you're saying about the removing branches. I did not know that room for moving a fan leave causes more stress than a branch. So thank you for that.
When evaluating branches, I tried to imagine how the plant is going to grow. I tried to plan three steps into the future.
So I'll look at a branch and think how much light it'll get once it's little sisters grow up bigger to. If I think it's just going to be a runt, I get that b**** out of there. Essentially they are suckers.
And I'm telling you, get you some of that diatomaceous earth. It's going to help ease the stress and help with your water.



I have thoughts on just using the whole room as a grow house. I'm a little biased because that's what I decided to do. I don't regret it at all. In order to best be able to give opinions though, it would probably be better to be able to see the room that you're talking about. Flooring electrical.. ect.

Electric: when was the last time you did a load calc on power? I would recommend looking at all of your draw, make sure that the load is divided evenly.
**Mic drop** boom! Bet you weren't expecting that to come out of this chick! Lol


Nutrition: can you do a video of the ingredients in your newts? How to make it so much easier.

Dehumidifier:
Yes. To me it is a must. Humidity in the air effects Soo so much. plus it's going to be beneficial for when you start to dry shit out. Remember think three steps ahead.

Speaking of... Now would be a good time to order some more seeds. If you are planning on going organic soil, that takes significantly longer. Additionally, I would recommend starting a compost pile now. The longer it has to age, the better it is. even if you're buying like store bought stuff. If you're going to mix it with some other stuff, you're probably going to want it to sit. I try to lean towards living soil method.


Scrogging: are you planning on doing that in your room? I mean you don't have to. I was just curious.


Okay I'm done talking for now

Sweetmesss said:

I see your point, but brah you could have said it a little gentler. Don't crush the man's spirit for wanting to grow.

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Appreciate it but I understand what he's trying to make clear