First Time PC Case Grow Random Bagseed

dopewear · Apr 15, 2009

LunchBox05 said:
Hey ma, very nice, loving the set-up. Wanna keep an eye on this one, keep up the grow man, girls are looking nice.

Girls? I like your enthusiasm! Yes, girls they are!(hopefully)

LunchBox05 · Apr 15, 2009

Gotta keep a positive attitude about them man, Im hopin there some pretty ladies as well.

dopewear · Apr 15, 2009

alright folks once again im turning to you for help... what do you think of an aquarium heater in a can of water to create humidity? you think thatd work...
also i need a idea to keep my temps down? any suggestions? maybe a piece of plexi glass? v12 what you think?

BudTinsley · Apr 15, 2009

dopewear said:
alright folks once again im turning to you for help... what do you think of an aquarium heater in a can of water to create humidity? you think thatd work...
also i need a idea to keep my temps down? any suggestions? maybe a piece of plexi glass? v12 what you think?

I dont see why that humidifier wouldn't work. Give it a shot and let me know. You could use plexiglass or I've read of other people using the plastic from a poster frame at walmart. Either would work, I'm assuming. Is there any way you could get a passive intake on there somehow to pull in cool air from the outside? Just a thought. Hope you get it figured out.

dopewear · Apr 15, 2009

i already have an intake but i could try mount another(fuckin nightmare itll be) i think im leaning more to plexi

BudTinsley · Apr 15, 2009

Plexiglass would work well too. I've read some places that it cuts the temps down by 5-10 degrees. About how much cooler does it need to be?

dopewear · Apr 15, 2009

5 to 10 would be amazing! i run maybe 85 tops mid day when its the hottest so if i could get it down itd be amazing!

BudTinsley · Apr 15, 2009

I'd say give it try then. At least before you go through the hassle of getting another intake somehow. Hope it works out for you.

greenzebra · Apr 16, 2009

An easy thing to do to create humidity is get a small reptile undertank heating pad from any petstore chain.. Petland or Petsmart or anywhere like that, they're like $10. Find a shallow heat proof dish.. like a shallow casserole dish or plate. Place the dish on top of the heating pad and fill with water. It creates quite a bit of humidity. You could probably find some regular heating pads at walmart or something too. Just a thought. Remember though, as your humidity rises so will your temperature in such a small space.. I would say your temperature will be the first thing you gotta worry about though. The humidity probably isn't going to hurt the plants nearly as much as heat stress would.

As BudTinsley stated, you could put plexiglass between your lights and the plants and pull air out of that space to reduce the heat. I've heard that plexiglass can lower temperatures but I've also read in a lot of places that plexiglass between your lights and plants degrades the light quality to your plants in some way. I can't say whether it is worth it to reduce the heat or not though. It's something that requires a little more research I guess.

It looks good so far though. Our plants are pretty close in size, I'm about a week or so behind you I think. Your plants definitely look a big healthier though, I think mine are recovering from my overwatering the first week or so. Keep it up man!

v12xjs · Apr 16, 2009

Hey DW
You should be fine with the humidity once the plants are established. They raise the levels themselves during the night. My case hits 75% humidity every night. They just seem to need a bit of help in the early stages so you should be ok with the bags.
The plexi I ordered is polycarbonate and should be ideal for what we are doing. It allows all light through except UV and as cfl's don't emit UV there should be no difference to the plants.
Don't know what effect it has on temps but it should be here today or tomorrow so I'll put up some pics and temp difference details once it's fitted.

dopewear · Apr 16, 2009

Day 24 - 16/Apr/09 - Plants
Lights: 4 x 23w 6500k CFL
Light Cycle: 18/6
Temp: 75.6 F

Pics 1-5: Heres plant 1 looking great new growth constantly coming up the middle and thickening up. Notice lots of new growth at the base of the fan leafs they look like new little leafs should those be getting more light? everything going great.

Pic 6-10: Plant 2 has successfuly put out its first full 5 point fan leafs thats getting much bigger day by day. Lots of new growth coming up the middle and little leafs sprouting out from the stem at the base of the fan leafs aswell like plant 1.

For a temperary fix of the heat i put a frozen water bottle infront of the intake seems to work great till i get plexi. and if you guys could fill me in on those new little leafs thatd be great thanks.

v12xjs · Apr 17, 2009

Hey DW
Plants are looking very healthy. Pic 8 shows the plant has pretty well exhausted the food from the round leaves so if you don't already have your nutes you should go shopping this weekend as they will be taking food from the medium now.
As the plant gets taller I keep moving the ties up a node and pull it down a little harder. Doing that will give the new lower leaves enough light and growth will explode.
I'll get some quick pics of Amber and post them in my thread to show you what I mean.

shaps · Apr 17, 2009

what an interesting read been thinking of a pc case grow

Neph · Apr 17, 2009

Things are looking great DW. Have you any nutes yet? I guess I should of started my nutes earlier. Esme started eating her lower leaves. So you might want to get some nutes to them soon. Start out with about 1/4 dosage.

dopewear · Apr 17, 2009

thanks neph i will start using nutes either tonight or tomorrow. do you guys use nutes every time you water or like once a week or what?

dopewear · Apr 17, 2009

Day 25 - 17/Apr/09 - Plants
Lights: 4 x 23w 6500k CFL
Light Cycle: 18/6
Temp: 73.8 F

Pics 1-5: Plant 1 is doing well lots of new growth coming up the middle. these pictures are from this morning so it doesnt show what i did this afternoon but the bitch was running wild so i really tied her down my LST was pretty loose so now its just barely above the soil. hoping for those little leaves to get more light.

Pics 6-10: Plant 2 coming along new growth coming up the middle. its slowly getting taller. Also with this one aswell i redid my LST so its super horizontal so everything can get light hopefully itll do wonders!

I believe both plants are in need of nutes, all feeder leaves have or are ready to fall off, nutes will be administered tomorrow at quarter strength. I also noticed a smell coming off both plants, a very planty or a chlorophyll like smell.

UberSmoker · Apr 18, 2009

Wow really picking up since I last checked in, keep up the good work man.

dopewear · Apr 18, 2009

hey Uber long time no see, thanks for the comment.

dopewear · Apr 18, 2009

so i have diagnosed my plants and the only thing i can figure it lack of nutes im going by the color on the leaves and everything. so i gave them nutes with an NPK of 12-4-8 at 1/4 strengh. the only thing i can think of for the droop is maybe over watering but i only water every 2-3 days. also i got a humidity gauge and my case is sitting at 40% is that okay?

dopewear · Apr 19, 2009

Day 26 - 18/Apr/09 - Plants
Lights: 4 x 23w 6500k CFL
Light Cycle: 18/6
Temp: 78.6 F

Pics 1-5: plant one looking like shit of course, drooping and discoloration in the leaves. new growth still coming out the top though. you can see how i tied it down more. side grow at the base of fan leaves still coming in.

Pics 6-10: plant 2 looking good so the most part some discoloration in the leafs due to lack of nutes. new top and side growth still coming in slowly.

So there you have it guys i gave them nutes today at quarter strength, the humidity in there is at 40% which is with in reason (according to riu mems). the temps barely break 80 now a days? where am i going wrong? ill give them 2 days to show improvement or im pulling the plug on these two as upsetting as that is, oh well.

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