First time vertical grow

miduswell1 said:

hey how goes it?im new to the forum.my question is this,is vertical growing more cost affective?i have experience with outdoor grows,currently im working my own indoor,so im just looking for a cost efective option.

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Hi miduswell1 the thread that got us on the vertical bandwagon is over at ic mag. plenty of good info on its benefits. makes perfect sense when you think about it

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=127881

Dude

El Duderino... said:

Haha had a bad day Blackhawk149?????????????? go smoke yourself to sleep buddy sounds like you need it!!!

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Probably was responding to a bot. Happens fairly regularly, bots come through, spam up a tonne of threads. Mods then come through later and delete the posts. I've seen a few posts like his where you're wondering what was being replied to, but then you remember the bots.

Your canopy has filled out nicely. I wouldn't stress a few holes, stretch will cover that and then some. Looking good, keep us updated.

Subbed up like a mofo

Thats just awsome! Im looking to do something like this. Im running 1 1000w vert. How far from the lights are you? And how tall could I go with 1 bulb?

Grow4tho187 said:

WHATS GOING ONN! !!!! where the pictures at ! I like the shelf design did you design it yourself ?

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Hey grow4tho187,

• SHELF SYSTEM: two shelf sytem in an octagonal shape, first shelf at 14.9 inches, SECOND shelf at 54.3 inches from the floor. Built with 2.7 x 1.3 inch pine, shelf is made with ¾ inch chipboard, attached with 3 inch nails. Half of the octagonal has castors wheels on it so they can move.
  
  
  
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ALso the shelf angle is 22.5C this helps with water flow and so far it has also helped with tying the plants branches to the net. The net stands out at 8 inches supported by two pieces of pine which now run the length top to bottom.

In one of my pics you can see the shelf from the side view, and four out of the 8 shelves have castors on them to move around when need be. So far i have not moved them around as i found that the WOG is filling nicely.


Cheers

elduderino

Stomper420 said:

Thats just awsome! Im looking to do something like this. Im running 1 1000w vert. How far from the lights are you? And how tall could I go with 1 bulb?

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Hey Stomper,
if i had one 1000watt i would do one shelf, and veg them quite large so i can train them up and down. I guess this issues might be with 1 1000 you wont have a lot of top to bottom coverage... you would be better off with 2 x 600watt


The design i have is 6 inches from the lip of the shelf ( edge of the pots) to the net + 25 inches from the centre to my cool tube. The octagon width ....facing lip of the buycket on one side to the other side is 62 inches. I would have loved to take more pics but the room is now full of weed


SHoot some questions ill try and help as much as possible


El duderino

I havent set this up yet. I have 10 girls flowering up under it now. I totaly love this idea of growing as it saves space and uses the whole light. I suupose I would have to hang the light and see what my pattern is. Thanks and keep up the awsome work!

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Start by saying that i have learnt alot for the next crop and its mostly to do with the lollypopping backpopping, leaf picking and also tying down. These four factors will determine how big the crop ends up. as it all helps maximize the space available in a verticle grow.

So the final number after pull up was 5lbs 5ounces, this was with 28 plants (including 5 sick ones) under 3000watts. So im happy that with less lights and 4 more plants i still managed to pull more than my usual 20 plant 3600watt grow. This type of set up once mastered with 32 healthy plant im confident could achieve 8lbs, maybe more if im lucky.

All in all i would say vertical growing requires alot more work, the first 2 weeks of flower are not to busy, but from the completion of the stretch its go go go.

Here are a few happy snaps of the girls the day before i pulled up.

The Octagon


FLOWERS







WALL OF GREEN (WOG)







will add some dried bud photos soon.

I plan to continue this journal so people interested can follow and learn from my mistakes. and also for people to help me along the way.

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Here is a break down week by week what jobs need to be done and how long they take. These are not including normal tanks changes and daily check required for all growing just vertical maintenance.

Week 1 - The net must installed
Week 2 - no vertical maintenance required
Week 3 - Backpopp/ lollypopp 2ppl approx 3hrs first tie down 2ppl approx 3 hours
Week 4 - Small de-leaf to expose bud sites, 2nd tie down 2ppl 2 hours, backpopp/lollypopp 2ppl 2 hrs,
Week 5 - Re tie plants to reach lower down net 2 ppl 2 hours
Week 6 - De leaf 1 hrs, re-tie 2hrs
Week 7 - Re tie for last time and massive de-leaf approx 2hrs for 2 ppl
week 8 - Relax and get ready for harvest.

will add to this as i learn more.

Hell yeah duderino Im glad it worked out for you. Im also converting to the vert side this grow half is vert scrog, next all of my grow will be vert scrog.