FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

eastcoastmo

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Well, i went ahead and tried out a couple of different positions, with the safest being directly at the top right along side the other to even out the spread while i shifted the other hood slightly down the rails so the could sit side by side. The 2nd doesn't spread ALL the way, but it sits in such a way that it blends evenly so i don't have any dramatic hot spots... I probably will though!! New at Using Dutchmaters and i mistakenly added more potash when it wasn't needed along with add.27 additive. So that may mean i won't need swell...., But i'm going to use both sparingly as the add.27 is unique in the way it breaks down mineral nutrients. Again it has that secret formula HINT HINT : Phosphorus acid. But in awesome combination to wild smelling salts and vitamins.... should be AWESOME!!!! The smell of this Amster is completely different using Dutch Masters through flowering. Her calyxs are forming large and swollen and i JUST hit week 5. She stinks too.


I don't mind cooling hoods as i myself use the flat base hood design and it works great, but could be modifies to be better ofcourse!!
Having glass is meant to be ok as long as its clean and pure un-laminated glass. UVA is somewhat filtered out, but UVB onwards most definitely comes through. I think personally, a flat glass design with holes evenly spread over it would be best, but bugger handling that, and the spread would be messed up, but some heat to a degree helps the plants growth, so if you can touch your glass safely for 5 seconds i'd say its too cold! warm is good in my opinion, or transpiration doesn't happen, and you end up with very humid conditions, especially during dark period. I always say if you're using glass, use it as CLOSE as possible ;) Mine actually is so close it prematurely bleaches some fan leaves, and its so bright in those areas my camera cant compensate with both lamps on and i get a bright orange picture! Very intense lighting, but little radiant heat it given out.

During grow, makem stretch, and during flower bring it down just over the buds until the leaves perk up and do their magic :)
Sounds like you got the dutchmaster nutes worked out as well bro, you certainly have the knowhow to make any of them work to their ultimate ability :D

How much extra yield are you expecting with the extra light now mate? You reckon you'll go over the 2lb mark? Im figuring yes as the second light will really thicken those buds up a lot :D cant wait to see man!
 

flowamasta

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Got any pics of the chickens and the garden?
lol! :)

SAM_9954.jpgSAM_1489.jpgSAM_1490.jpgSAM_6884.jpgSAM_6016.jpgSAM_1427.jpg There you go Mo! Click for full size ofcourse :) These are our 2 bantams, 1 being a Japanese Fighter.... and yes he doesn't like anyone going near his babies. He can Kick 3 times in mid air before he even hits the ground LOL! I got the slo-mo vids. But at night, hes as docile as a kitten and loves to be pet and have his chin-bags rubbed :) They both recently had a batch of eggs, only a few survived due to the cold nights, though 3 are healthy and happy!! :)

Usually chickens don't lay during winter, but our birds a little mixed up, and was born inside in the quiet and warmth, and likes to spurt out eggs all year round :) The roo did the rest of the job. No too many pics of the yard ofcourse... But these pics speak for themselves :) We both love nature!!

Sounds like you got the dutchmaster nutes worked out as well bro, you certainly have the knowhow to make any of them work to their ultimate ability :D

How much extra yield are you expecting with the extra light now mate? You reckon you'll go over the 2lb mark? Im figuring yes as the second light will really thicken those buds up a lot :D cant wait to see man!
I hope so!! I'm going for 1.5lb which should be within access right now, with each main pulling around a half ounce each or so, the bigger even more, and under the canopy is FULL of frosty popcorn!! so should be good, i'm crossing my fingers, as everyones still getting shafted by the government. $10 for milk n bread.... whats next?
 

eastcoastmo

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I reckon you should get that easy bro, if anyone can do it, it's definitely you :D

Wicked chooks too mate, i use to have heaps of different ones when i lived on the farm, they have funny personalities hey!
 

flowamasta

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I reckon you should get that easy bro, if anyone can do it, it's definitely you :D

Wicked chooks too mate, i use to have heaps of different ones when i lived on the farm, they have funny personalities hey!
Time will tell, using 2 brand new globes aswell...

gotta love chooks, they seem to be alot more on the ball than people think! They can even see you through white curtains!! how weird is that??!!

i had 11 chicks ...down to 1left..not happy
wow :( thats a big number. bad weather? so sad, i had a couple die in my hand and they were the first for me. damn nature

oh yea! day 28 :p





just a couple of dark shots for ya!!
 

Mohican

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Just found out we are allowed 4 chickens in our neighborhood! No rosters though. How do you decide what type of chickens you want?

The Puffy chicken is so, well, puffy :) The wet chicken looks so sad :P

The chicks have cool markings.


Thanks for the pics!

Cheers,
Mo
 

eastcoastmo

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Flowa...dude...i am loving those dark shots, they look so perfect :D

Mo- depends what you're after, some lay bigger eggs, some are quieter than others, some are smaller etc. You'll also need a rooster if you want good eggs ;) you don't have to have one, but trust me, if you habe a rooster, the eggs taste a lot better!
 

flowamasta

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Just found out we are allowed 4 chickens in our neighborhood! No rosters though. How do you decide what type of chickens you want?

The Puffy chicken is so, well, puffy :) The wet chicken looks so sad :P

The chicks have cool markings.


Thanks for the pics!

Cheers,
Mo
Thats the great thing about chickens :) Soo many species, it depends if you want a small one or a big one! These 2 are both miniatures (bantams) and lay small eggs about the size of ping pong balls ( very tasty though ) We aren't aloud to have a roster either in these residential areas, but we love animals, and well... we do a few things that some of the public may find..... dodgy or shall i say 'illegal' Stupid word. Our rooster only crows a couple of times a day, we put him to bed on a perch in a large pottery pot, with a dark cover and he sleeps through the night until he sees the first wink of light (about 7am) and with the cover on he's reasonably quiet, and after 5 minutes of crowing he's ready to get up and have a scrummage around. He's got it easy lately as the momma hen is locked away with her chicks while they are still so tiny, so he just guards the backyard and hides under the tree, you wouldn't even know hes there unless you were in the yard with your back turned hehe.... They can be ferocious little birds and have an amazing amount of physical strength. Funny you mentioned the 'wet' chicken lol, That was in summer, about 45 degree heat, she looked sad getting the water treatment! you're right there! but she loved being wet, and it allowed her to stay col while she cleaned her feathers. ( Silky bantams don't have barbs in there feathers, thats why it looks like fluffy puffy hair :) She grows them out just before winter to stay warm, come summer, she plucks alot of her feathers out to stay cool! :) Same chicken ;) puffy/wet
Get some chickens Mo :) the best company animals, and they have eyes just like humans, they look straight at you and suss you out exactly. Its like they can see straight through you. Roosters sound awesome aswell!! If a little chick is a roo we will try to get some video of him learning to crow!! only about 3-4 weeks away :)

We loved all the chicken markings, the cutest sadly died, had black stripes running down his face and had a cute little round body, was sure he was a roo. The 3 that are left i think are 2 females and 1 roo.

No problem Mo!!

Flowa...dude...i am loving those dark shots, they look so perfect :D

Mo- depends what you're after, some lay bigger eggs, some are quieter than others, some are smaller etc. You'll also need a rooster if you want good eggs ;) you don't have to have one, but trust me, if you habe a rooster, the eggs taste a lot better!
Yeah i forget about the dark shots, it gives good reference to colour and i'm seeing some very dark greens, so i'm backing off now. Still deciding what i'm going to do for swell phase..... have heaps of cyco swell, but the add.27 from Dutch Masters looks like it has a decent amount of available phosphorus, i'm seeing little tip burn, and i've been pushing food pretty hard, but i almost think she could handle more of something. I fixed her mag deficiency which i put down to Dutch Masters Nutes having a lower percentage of Magnesium so the leaves have more vigor, her growth rates are still going strong. I gotta flush again tonight, thats 3 times in 1.5 weeks... Not that i HAVE to, but i'm seeing such a dramatic drop in the res each day its unbelievable. After 2 days there is next to nothing in the 40 litre res, so i give her a quick flush, and fresh nutes, and she honestly seems to be loving it. The add.27 states you can add 30ml to each 10 litres. 120ml!? that does seem strong, and on their calculator and some small reference from others only 20-40 ml is needed in a 40 litre res.... so i'm getting 2 completely different rates and suggestions, and going on instinct i went in between and feeding 80ml of add.27 and she seems fine. I'm not seeing her sky rocket like the last grow i put that down to the colder weather, hotter weather makes buds stretch and maybe helped get that 'Eiffel Tower' look last round ;)
You know what!? The add.27 smells SOOO good, and looks SOOO damn sexy, i'm just going to run that. along with some base and silica, really simple... oh and guess what..... I haven't added a single drop of sugar enhancers (suga rush/pineapple rush) as i wanted to see the difference their straight up baselines can make. I've heard awesome things about this add.27 and smoke some of the nicest buds i've ever had the pleasure of tasting, As we all know you get back what you put in, so mineral nutrients are all going to give a different effect, each and every round, especially if you mix things up, and don't go by the books :p I like Dutch Masters because they don't seem to push there company too much out there, they want people to know if you want quality product, use there stuff, if you want bulk, use the 'pushed' marketing stuff. Based on Dutch Masters research, They are actually using high grade chems, and maybe even the best. I'm getting AWESOME results, and I've come to be pretty picky when one wants to smoke something he created :)

I also notice a cleaner end product will end in a cleaner wake-up the next day.... I'm going to start thinking of flushing as ridding of excess metals now, not salts as they say, because one they've been through the system and become oxidized my thinking tells me they become heavy, and even toxic. I get these thoughts sometimes, and logic falls into place with a little more research here and there, always learning, always trying to make a 'better' product or always to the best to our ability :)

Hey if there is enough of 'us' trying to do it properly for health reasons, then basically all the commersh stuff is going to have to change again at some point, all these commersh growers not putting love into each plant comes back straight onto them with feedback in my opinion. I can see how herb has got a crooked name now and then because there is stuff out there loaded with chemicals, and far from what could of been achieved. Sooner or later people won't want to buy commersh, because once they get a taste of the good stuff, they just won't want to touch the 'other' Because thats how we've come to be! It really makes all the difference. So glad that most RIU are for perso. Thats AWESOME. I bet we all got sick of smoking shit at some point, as to why we ended up on here :) WE ALL KNOW IT OUT THERE.... Just gotta push that shite outta the way ;)

Happy Growing Everyone!!
 

Chipper Pig

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Chooks are funny little creatures that is for sure. My six chooks don't seem to mind to cold, they are still laying one each a day. I give away a couple dozen eggs a week. Have also a couple batches of pickled eggs on the go!

This current grow I am doing a little experiment with one of Moby Dick's. It is just being fed on it base nutrients for it entire life, while the other two are getting the same feeding schedule as last round. It just want see how much all these extra additives do and whether the plant being fed the least chemicals taste better. The plant being fed just base nutes is looking good so far, flowering time will tell more of the story. I will be turning them down this weekend.

Your tent is a lovely operation to watch mate!
 

Mohican

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Great info FlowaMasta! Thanks for teaching me :) My knee is feeling a little better today after the Dr. visit. Tried walking on it a little more. Got some outside pictures of the garden and the babies.




Grapes





Blueberries








Cheers,
Mo
 

flowamasta

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Chooks are funny little creatures that is for sure. My six chooks don't seem to mind to cold, they are still laying one each a day. I give away a couple dozen eggs a week. Have also a couple batches of pickled eggs on the go!

This current grow I am doing a little experiment with one of Moby Dick's. It is just being fed on it base nutrients for it entire life, while the other two are getting the same feeding schedule as last round. It just want see how much all these extra additives do and whether the plant being fed the least chemicals taste better. The plant being fed just base nutes is looking good so far, flowering time will tell more of the story. I will be turning them down this weekend.

Your tent is a lovely operation to watch mate!
That experiment sounds like a great idea! awesome to hear your trying different things! its the only way to find out what does what :) Keep me posted!

Great info FlowaMasta! Thanks for teaching me :) My knee is feeling a little better today after the Dr. visit. Tried walking on it a little more. Got some outside pictures of the garden and the babies.




Grapes


Blueberries


Cheers,
Mo
No worries Mo!! You must have beautiful sunny weather! I cant believe how quickly those seedlings have grown! totally different structure to our hemisphere!
Can't wait to see your greenhouse in action! thanx for the pics aswell, mrs flowa LOOOOOOVES blueberries :)

Took a few nice pics last night, share time for day 29.

























love the colour scheme here.......



That cola is one of the centre ones copping the most light! Look at all that sunscreen :) :)
 

flowamasta

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NICE Bro :D really wish they'd bring out a smell app so we could bask in all it's glory too :lol:
LOL, I wish i could MASK the smell LOL!!! :cuss: I don't need to remind myself to check her thats for sure!! As soon as i walk near my house let alone walking in the front door! This shite makes you go what the!? and you smell it again, and ALMOST i say ALMOST turn your nose away lol!!! I don't know what the dealio is but maybe its the extra humidity or extra lighting.... but this is getting ridiculous. I Kinda wish it was a little more subtle because people are telling me my clothes stink of growing ganja, and this is people that have no clue, and i'm not even touching the plant :o This is faaar different from last round, maybe because there's a BUNCH more of her, but again this worries me in the oddest way!

They look more like the size of a longneck to me mate!!! Just too lovely.
LOL good representation matey, and that wouldn't be a stretch of truth either! a longneck is almost spot on, and around 30 of them :) I think i got my technique happening now, almost predictable :) Love ganja!! Just LOVE IT!!!!

Day 33!!!









Take your time checking these pics out :) I did snapping them ;)









Obsession eat your heart out :p













Just awesome!!!!

 

Scroga

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cray z!! be careful man if people are picking the smell up off your clothes! you gotta eat more garlic haha..im changing over to dm gold just for the price factor..plus they make it sound pretty good in the marketing lol..anywayz the big question is how do i get my colas to swell like that? haha well done mate!
 

eastcoastmo

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Hell yeah Flowa she is one resinous lady hey! Not real good about the smell though mate, it makes you pretty paranoid hey, I know I was especially the last few weeks of flowering! If people are picking it up on your clothes it must be damn strong!
 

flowamasta

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cray z!! be careful man if people are picking the smell up off your clothes! you gotta eat more garlic haha..im changing over to dm gold just for the price factor..plus they make it sound pretty good in the marketing lol..anywayz the big question is how do i get my colas to swell like that? haha well done mate!
Yep! I will be very careful from here on :)
Dutch Masters are good, but they have messed up my res really bad, also on the odd time i did check the ph, it was sitting surprisingly lower than it would of with CYCO, around 5.6, i like it usually around 5.8-6.0 to be safe, perhaps this is the mag deficiency i'll try to remember to show. But that has allowed for more nitrogen uptake during veg period in my opinion, which obviously was used up most recently given the DARK green colour as i stopped giving B1 boost a couple of weeks ago, and only running Silica, Bloom A+B, and Dutch's add.27 additive. So a lower ppm than i would normally run, but a stronger base and less vitamins. I think perhaps vitamins can put some strains into overkill, giving them an unnatural ability to replenish its chlorophyl to the point of it not depleting enough.. Just logical thoughts.... it seems to be working ok like this anyways :)

I think the PGR might be the culprit ;) Part A (vertical limiter) gets her to the starting line (flowering) quicker as the hormones induced (remembering i limit mine to 1.5 ml, not 3ml....) get the natural flowering enzymes building up more quickly instead of wasting energy into searching for more light with long budsites, limiting this shortens the buds length slightly at my rates, thus creating a shorter footprint for the lamps to travel for their optimal penetration ;) sounded pretty scientific there for a sec :p putting it simple, more of the flowers receive maximum light output from shortening the flowering stage by eliminating some of that 'stretch' period.
NOW.......! I STRESS THIS SECTION = I do NOT give any more than 1.5 ml of either part A or part B ( if needed, but not this round ) so i don't put the plant into unwanted stress by suddenly stopping the vertical growth so abruptly. I minimize this by halving the amount i first give, and closely monitor it overnight, and if all things look perfect i go ahead and dose the other half. IF you have given it JUST the right amount, she will show a mild sign of 'over-watering' this is because the PGR works systemically and soaks into the soft tissues of the plant, its entirely effective even as a foliar spray to certain locations on a plant, not just the entire contents of the res, but I like it in the res, where i can flush it out from the inside from where it counts.

Thats my opinion anyway ;) it could be the 1200 watts of dual Spectrum HPS lights too :p but these are bigger than last round, and they were insane. There's 1 cola right at the very back, she's an absolute WHOPPER. I probably should of added 3 layers of netting :mrgreen:


Hell yeah Flowa she is one resinous lady hey! Not real good about the smell though mate, it makes you pretty paranoid hey, I know I was especially the last few weeks of flowering! If people are picking it up on your clothes it must be damn strong!
Yes.... the smell, i forget, and then i breathe.... i hope these last couple of weeks go nice and fast!!! I just can't believe that i haven't used any sugar additives! This is the least i've ever given my grows as in terms of additives!! I'm really trying to create a space age stone, something really UNIQUE!!! The Amsters already Unique so i thought 'let her hair out this round :)'
 

Scroga

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just got my DM gold potash+ ,on the back of the bottle is says not to be used with dm gold nutrient range? im using cyco normal flower nutes as base as well as silica,dr repair,swell and floralicious plus...just wondering how i might incorprate this in with the rest? any thoughts mate?
 
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