Flush or Fade?

Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Michiganmeds1982 said:
I get what your saying but are buds Not Also partially leaf? And would there then be nutrients in those leaves inside the buds?
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Not in the sense your thinking! Take note of how the yellowing progresses....Lower leaves and up the plant it goes, with the sugars (leaves) in the buds turning last. Those are still feeding the "emergency reproductive process" going on around them in the actual buds.

Understand?
 
Dr. Who

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DemonTrich said:
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It's not actually starving. It's using the stored nutes in the fans for food. Kind of like how a clone uses its stored nutes in its fans to feed the clone and start growing roots and what not. If I notice yellowing before my 2 week mark, I'll hit them with a 100% feed. But my last 2 weeks it's just plain 6.5ph bubbled h20. Just enough to see some run-off. 20 gallons is good for my 12 4.5gal pots, and 3 3.7gal side pots every 4th day. I also drop the temps like a mad man. 2 weeks until chop, 75 lights on, 70 lights off.
Last week, 70 lights on, 65 lights off. Brings out purples and pinks in nearly all my 15 strains
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Yet the point of what I'M saying is that what your doing is NOT making any difference in how your bud burns or tastes! It might cure a little faster..
Personally, I do think your loosing some quality and yield by practicing "fade".....Weakening the plant, even the paper Mike supplied lines out that exact problem.....

Now then, I sure see you have some damn fine plants and you always have DT!
Hey, the old - If it works for you - thing is in play!......I just wonder how they would be across the board if you didn't fade?
Your more then obviously, not going to overfeed them! That, is the other side of the coin.
 
Nugachino

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Fuck. I can only hope to make harvest. I've yet to see a single bean get bigger than 10cm... but, I'm definitely going to be feeding mine up till the end. That is. If I don't fuck it up. Or have something go wrong, yet again.
 
Kingrow1

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I dont think a plant has enough stored nutrients to last very long on a water only diet, some nutrients are needed for cell funtion and control, without a steady supply basic things like respiration and photosynthesis cease. Im not sure the consumption of lower leaves would cover the deficit just like i highly doubt the cotyledons have enough food for the first two weeks of growth. Startch stores in plants seem quite small compared to the requirements of a few days final flowering.
 
Indacouch

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Flushing as in running three times the water through a plants soil volume only kills baby rhinos in Africa as I've said before .....the term gets loosely thrown around and some people believe just water towards the end in normal amounts is flushing ......that's called watering your plant correctly not flushing....I personally don't mind my plants fading at the end of flower ....but flushing as in three times the amount is for people who can't leave there plants alone ......
 
Odin*

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Truth be told, Michael Phelps didn't eat for the two weeks leading up to the Olympics because his body could survive on the fatty tissue and carb stores in his muscle. It makes him lighter and "aqua-dynamic".

In an effort to achieve Olympian status, I haven't eaten in 13 days, feelin' pretty good.
 
Indacouch

Indacouch

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Odin* said:
Truth be told, Michael Phelps didn't eat for the two weeks leading up to the Olympics because his body could survive on the fatty tissue and carb stores in his muscle. It makes him lighter and "aqua-dynamic".

In an effort to achieve Olympian status, I haven't eaten in 13 days, feelin' pretty good.
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Precisely why I starve my plants ...so there more aero dynamic when they fight ....lol
 
zeddd

zeddd

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I'm gunna end this right now, flush all the shit out of the medium the plant brachts will take mobile nutrients from the leaves, where is it getting its non mobile nutrients from, flush my Arse learn to cure
 
bgmike8

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Indacouch said:
Flushing as in running three times the water through a plants soil volume only kills baby rhinos in Africa as I've said before .....the term gets loosely thrown around and some people believe just water towards the end in normal amounts is flushing ......that's called watering your plant correctly not flushing....I personally don't mind my plants fading at the end of flower ....but flushing as in three times the amount is for people who can't leave there plants alone ......
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But the fade may cause less yield with no real benefit
 
Odin*

Odin*

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@zeddd Take it to the next level. I removed a cap under my hood and found all this oily shit in there. Removed a drain plug underneath and flushed that crap out good with the hose. That smoke burns a nice white, white ash under the hood, I think I did good.
 
DemonTrich

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I'll say it again, what's the difference in a 2 week flush, vs letting it fade with just watering last 2 weeks? Since I personally let my grow live longer than most (69 days from flip, almost 10 weeks on nearly all my 15 or so strains), I see job difference in growth past a certain time period. Most chop at day 64, some a bit earlier, some a bit later like myself. A plant can only grow for so long before it hits a plateau, and can't grow any bigger. It's a perennial not an annual.
 
Kingrow1

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Id guess flushing an organic soil is pretty futile, flushing chemical nutrients out of a soil pretty tricky and flushing out a hydro/coco system with plain water possibly disaterous. Surely the trick is to lower nutrient levels not outright withold them.
 
Afgan King

Afgan King

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Mine are fading as we speak and I'll be just fine at over 2 a light lol Ill fade y'all don't mine will keep selling before it's even chopped and I'll keep technique's to myself. I'm honestly over even arguing any of my points anymore there's really no point, the people who will listen will look at my resumé and decide and those who don't wont nbd to me lol I'll keep teaching my methods as I'm paid to as well. Either way to each their own if you know what your doing your fade won't hurt your yield in the least
 
zeddd

zeddd

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DemonTrich said:
I'll say it again, what's the difference in a 2 week flush, vs letting it fade with just watering last 2 weeks? Since I personally let my grow live longer than most (69 days from flip, almost 10 weeks on nearly all my 15 or so strains), I see job difference in growth past a certain time period. Most chop at day 64, some a bit earlier, some a bit later like myself. A plant can only grow for so long before it hits a plateau, and can't grow any bigger. It's a perennial not an annual.
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It's an annual
 
DemonTrich

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No one's arguing their tek vs other ways of growing. We are all inputting our own growing ways is al . Some pee standing up, some sitting down. There are a hundreds of ways to grow herb for thousands of different growers.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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Afgan King said:
Mine are fading as we speak and I'll be just fine at over 2 a light lol Ill fade y'all don't mine will keep selling before it's even chopped and I'll keep technique's to myself. I'm honestly over even arguing any of my points anymore there's really no point, the people who will listen will look at my resumé and decide and those who don't wont nbd to me lol I'll keep teaching my methods as I'm paid to as well. Either way to each their own if you know what your doing your fade won't hurt your yield in the least
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I would like to hear your ideas man, your grows speak better about your skills than your posts do btw
 
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