flush or not to flush

althor said:

"There is no need to flush... ever"

That is no true at all, there are reasons to flush. Might not be for flavor/taste... but yeah, there are reasons to flush, toxicity problems for one.

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True Dat, but the proper term would be leech ,,,,, not flush

althor said:

"There is no need to flush... ever"

That is no true at all, there are reasons to flush. Might not be for flavor/taste... but yeah, there are reasons to flush, toxicity problems for one.

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Maybe, YOU didn't read this part?

A properly grown plant should never get flushed...ever

Because we are in a major drought, I've only been flushing once per poop, maybe twice. One of my brothers is a plumber. He says it's always a good idea to flush twice. It acts as sort of a "chaser". Makes sure everything evacuates the pipes.

chuck estevez said:

Maybe, YOU didn't read this part?

A properly grown plant should never get flushed...ever

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Perhaps "ever" doesnt mean what the dictionary says it means then.

Aeroknow said:

Because we are in a major drought, I've only been flushing once per poop, maybe twice. One of my brothers is a plumber. He says it's always a good idea to flush twice. It acts as sort of a "chaser". Makes sure everything evacuates the pipes.

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althor said:

"There is no need to flush... ever"

That is no true at all, there are reasons to flush. Might not be for flavor/taste... but yeah, there are reasons to flush, toxicity problems for one.

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I have (over the years) found that simply watering it out with straight water. Gives me a faster recovery and the plants gets and stays stable better then attempting a high volume "flush" or "wash".....The only thing I have added (IF I felt it was needed) to that water is a simple AACT or "bio" tea to replace damaged myco's... Ca/Mg as needed and pH the water to 6.5 to help the damaged pH control ability of the soil.

Coco gets a little wash every now and then to leech salt build up out......Riddle is using the proper terminology.

If you use your synthetics properly there is NO need to "flush, wash or leach" a soil grow..

Doc

cowboyferg said:

have sum claw action going on... here is sum pics.. think I should flush?

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Best advice I received here is to leave your plants alone and stop watering them again it's worth repeating, leave them alone and give them 3-4 days. Works every time.

right now im watering 3-5 days with nutes 2 times and the 3rd with noting but ph'ed water plus cal-mag plus and molasses and seems to be doing well as of right now I have never had to do a heavy based watering I mainly water till I get 10-15 percent run off slowly

As long as cal/mag is present, even in small amounts a supplement isn't necessary. The molasses has enough by itself. Just a thought.

yea I figured a lil bit of molasses wouldn't hurt though not as if its a exspensive item know what I mean lol

Aeroknow said:

Because we are in a major drought, I've only been flushing once per poop, maybe twice. One of my brothers is a plumber. He says it's always a good idea to flush twice. It acts as sort of a "chaser". Makes sure everything evacuates the pipes.

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But what to do when it all doesnt go down with one flush ? In drought conditions is it ok to flush twice when product of voluminous girth and span cause such quandary ?

I grow organic and don't flush because I don't feed any nutrients just plain water. When I fed chemical fertilizers I didn't flush but I stopped giving chemical fertilizers for about a week when I thought it looked finished and just only gave plain water. Seemed to help the smoke be less harsh and let the plant do a little natural fading. Now that i'm 100% organic my plants get a really nice natural fade by the end of flowering and the taste is incredible!

cowboyferg said:

right now im watering 3-5 days with nutes 2 times and the 3rd with noting but ph'ed water plus cal-mag plus and molasses and seems to be doing well as of right now I have never had to do a heavy based watering I mainly water till I get 10-15 percent run off slowly

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If that is your nutrient schedule you are going to get a lot of salt build up.

Yodaweed said:

If that is your nutrient schedule you are going to get a lot of salt build up.

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I water with nutes EVERY TIME, no salt build up, but then I don't overfeed!!

chuck estevez said:

I water with nutes EVERY TIME, no salt build up, but then I don't overfeed!!

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What do your plants look like right before harvest?

Yodaweed said:

I grow organic and don't flush because I don't feed any nutrients just plain water. When I fed chemical fertilizers I didn't flush but I stopped giving chemical fertilizers for about a week when I thought it looked finished and just only gave plain water. Seemed to help the smoke be less harsh and let the plant do a little natural fading. Now that i'm 100% organic my plants get a really nice natural fade by the end of flowering and the taste is incredible!

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Flushing does not improve taste or make the smoke less harsh.
Watering with plain water at the end of a cycle does not improve taste or make smoke less harsh.

Buds do not store the food the plant eats.

Starches and chlorophyll make for bad taste and harsh smoke.

The fade is because the plant does not have enough nutrients.

Yodaweed said:

What do your plants look like right before harvest?

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green and healthy

Trousers said:

Flushing does not improve taste or make the smoke less harsh.
Watering with plain water at the end of a cycle does not improve taste or make smoke less harsh.

Buds do not store the food the plant eats.

Starches and chlorophyll make for bad taste and harsh smoke.

The fade is because the plant does not have enough nutrients.

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Yeah it's from lack of nitrogen, too much nitrogen in your plants makes it harsh and the gassing off during drying much more harsh (you get that planty smell then your weed tastes like hay). Try growing with some super soil and do it natural and organic like its meant to be done you see a lot more of the plants natural beauty not just yellowing but purpling redding and other beautiful colors that come with growing plants natural like they are meant to be grown outdoors. My golden goat looks so Hawaiian when finished yellowing of leaves around lime green buds really awesome at the end and the harvests are not reduced but much at all if anything I think they are better cause the taste is amazing. Basically what I am saying is that if your plant is nice and green with lots of green fan leaves at the end it might look healthy but it's not grown properly you want some fading at the end to release that extra nitrogen, your bloom fertilizers are very low in nitrogen but even those contain too much that's why I stopped using those you can get better fertilizers than premade ones that are watered downed and contain excessive levels of salt. Every plant feeds differently why use the same premade mixture on all of them when it is so easy to customize your mixture based on past grows of the same strain.

Yodaweed said:

Yeah it's from lack of nitrogen, too much nitrogen in your plants makes it harsh and the gassing off during drying much more harsh (you get that planty smell). Try growing with some super soil and do it natural and organic like its meant to be done you see a lot more of the plants natural beauty not just yellowing but purpling redding and other beautiful colors that come with growing plants natural like they are meant to be grown outdoors. My golden goat looks so Hawaiian when finished yellowing of leaves around lime green buds really awesome at the end and the harvests are not reduced but much at all if anything I think they are better cause the taste is amazing. Basically what I am saying is that if your plant is nice and green with lots of green fan leaves at the end it might look healthy but it's not grown properly you want some fading at the end to release that extra nitrogen, your bloom fertilizers are very low in nitrogen but even those contain too much that's why I stopped using those you can get better fertilizers than premade ones that are watered downed and contain excessive levels of salt.

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Yodaweed said:

If that is your nutrient schedule you are going to get a lot of salt build up.

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No argument here....simply refer to my posting above! That skips all the myths.

Doc

Dr. Who said:

I have (over the years) found that simply watering it out with straight water. Gives me a faster recovery and the plants gets and stays stable better then attempting a high volume "flush" or "wash".....The only thing I have added (IF I felt it was needed) to that water is a simple AACT or "bio" tea to replace damaged myco's... Ca/Mg as needed and pH the water to 6.5 to help the damaged pH control ability of the soil.

Coco gets a little wash every now and then to leech salt build up out......Riddle is using the proper terminology.

If you use your synthetics properly there is NO need to "flush, wash or leach" a soil grow..

Doc

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Yeah I would agree but I don't think many people know the proper way to run synthetics to be honest with you a lot of them douse their plants with full strength bottled nutrients everyday than complain of salt build up during flowering because their plant starts burning up like a wildfire mid way through flower.