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patlpp

New Member
I have my ebb n grow all set up and ready to go. (I did end up locating the vacuum release elbow, so thanks for the help.)

I have a new problem, however. I'm basically running three rows of three buckets attached to three of the outlets. The other three outlets have end caps. Two of the three rows fill up just fine, but one row doesn't fill up past the one inch mark. Any ideas?

I checked for kinks (none) and checked the tube to ensure there weren't any blockages. all the buckets are set up at the same level and the row that doesn't fill up is actually the first row of the three, so it's not a pump pressure issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.
You gotta have a blockage. What happens when you take the tube from the bucket end an blow into it. Do that , maybe theres something inside the tubing. Than check the first plastic fitting , maybe it;s blocked
 

dtp5150

Well-Known Member
i'm really liking my system...got 4 buckets to 3 spouts....so 12 total.

just one 400 watt hps flowering all of them but more are to be added soon.

i got an expansion kit too and its a good set.

my plants were looking droopy so i watered 5 times per day instead of 4 and they look better. i am guessing that a nutrient deficiency can be battled with more frequent fillings? So, thats a tip to add more nutes...maybe...makes sense to me at least. It was also hot so that could have been it

I am trying not to add too much water to to the reservoir so that if the fill switch fails it wont be a HUGE flood, but I really should add another one.
 

doniawon

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insulated 55 with built in drain spigots would be bomber.. also predrilled holes in top of buckets for lst. im gonna make my own, and put CAP out.
 

dieselhound

Well-Known Member
Yeah I am done with my stg experiment in this system. But with the rocks it is great.

If you want to do a good cleaning or rearrange the buckets how do you go about getting the water out of the controller bucket, lines, and outer buckets without getting water everywhere?

Nice thread. I've been running the E & G system for a couple of years now and love it. I am currently running Casey Jones and Blue Dream. The Casey cola's are like baseball bats. I'll post some pics of my system if anyone is interested.

The way I flush is by installing 2 in-line valves between buckets. These valves are lower than the buckets and controller and therefore will drain the system fairly well. When I flush I drain to waste. Hook up the valves to my drain outside and done. I've finally got the cleaning part of this system down and it takes approx. 30 min. for the flush. The final cleaning of the system is much more invloved and thankfully only need to do it once a run.

One thing I like about the system is the fact that running strains w/ different finishing times isn't a problem. I've got one strain (First Lady) that is almost done at 7.5 wks. I disconnected that bucket form the system and began hand flushing this week.

DH
 

cooley150

Well-Known Member
Could some one PLEASE explain to me in VERY SIMPLE terms.... WHAT is PPM ? I know it stands for parts per million, but What exactly is it and how does it work. The same question for TDS.... I know how to set my PH, but what I don't understand is how you do the whole PPM measuring thing with the water and the nutes. Would Plain tap water have a PPM of 0? Does 5 gallons of water have more PPM then 40 gallons? Does PH change PPM? Could some one PLEASE break this whole measuring thing down for me. I know it's important when using the Lucas Formula and that is what I am using in a 24 pot Ebb & Gro. 1000 watt MH. Thank you for you time. :weed:
 

doniawon

Well-Known Member
the three ways salt in water are read through the electrode in your meter. ppm you know that. tds total dissolved solids, all measured through ec(electrical conductivity).
I use the ppm cause it easier to guage imop... furthermo, ppm are parts per million salts in your res> nutrients etc. and no tap usually has a ppm of 250 to 550 depending. (on luck mostly) ph also. but the ppm in a cup will register close to a 30 gallon tub full, a 5 gallon will read close to that of a 40 gal. the source deters the starting ppm's, then the nutes are added.. im drunk hope this makes sense..
 

patlpp

New Member
Could some one PLEASE explain to me in VERY SIMPLE terms.... WHAT is PPM ? I know it stands for parts per million, but What exactly is it and how does it work. The same question for TDS.... I know how to set my PH, but what I don't understand is how you do the whole PPM measuring thing with the water and the nutes. Would Plain tap water have a PPM of 0? Does 5 gallons of water have more PPM then 40 gallons? Does PH change PPM? Could some one PLEASE break this whole measuring thing down for me. I know it's important when using the Lucas Formula and that is what I am using in a 24 pot Ebb & Gro. 1000 watt MH. Thank you for you time. :weed:
It's quite a lot your asking. go to : https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=category&id=51

This in the FAQ area. Read up than ask again if needed.
 

mofizzle415

Active Member
Quick question...I just got my Cap E & G a few weeks ago.... It doesnt drain until I unplug the pump in the resi which is connected to a power strip....Do I have it connected wrong ? I think maybe the pump in the rezi should be connected to the controller ? can someone please help.....I currently have the pump in the controller bucket connected to the controller....or do I have to connect the pump in the rezi to a seperate timer and set it to turn off when the controller starts draining...seems like it should do that w/o a seperate timer....
 

cooley150

Well-Known Member
Quick question...I just got my Cap E & G a few weeks ago.... It doesnt drain until I unplug the pump in the resi which is connected to a power strip....Do I have it connected wrong ? I think maybe the pump in the rezi should be connected to the controller ? can someone please help.....I currently have the pump in the controller bucket connected to the controller....or do I have to connect the pump in the rezi to a seperate timer and set it to turn off when the controller starts draining...seems like it should do that w/o a seperate timer....


YES!!!! On the side of you control bucket it has 2 plugs...one says fill pump and the other says drain pump. that is where the 2 pumps plug in.
 

cooley150

Well-Known Member
the three ways salt in water are read through the electrode in your meter. ppm you know that. tds total dissolved solids, all measured through ec(electrical conductivity).
I use the ppm cause it easier to guage imop... furthermo, ppm are parts per million salts in your res> nutrients etc. and no tap usually has a ppm of 250 to 550 depending. (on luck mostly) ph also. but the ppm in a cup will register close to a 30 gallon tub full, a 5 gallon will read close to that of a 40 gal. the source deters the starting ppm's, then the nutes are added.. im drunk hope this makes sense..

Thank you doniawon... That does explain it to me a little better. You did a great job for being DUNK!!! LOL!!!
 

patlpp

New Member
Quick question...I just got my Cap E & G a few weeks ago.... It doesnt drain until I unplug the pump in the resi which is connected to a power strip....Do I have it connected wrong ? I think maybe the pump in the rezi should be connected to the controller ? can someone please help.....I currently have the pump in the controller bucket connected to the controller....or do I have to connect the pump in the rezi to a seperate timer and set it to turn off when the controller starts draining...seems like it should do that w/o a seperate timer....
The resi pump must be connected to the controller ac labeled "fill pump" and the controller pump ac connected to the "Drain Pump" No separate timer.
 

mofizzle415

Active Member
"YES!!!! On the side of you control bucket it has 2 plugs...one says fill pump and the other says drain pump. that is where the 2 pumps plug in."......dude im a frikken tard lmao.....I cant believe I didnt see it....Thank you.....Thank You...Thank you.... + Rep brotha...Im almost embarassed...cant believe I missed it..holy fuck....
 

mofizzle415

Active Member
Thanks patlpp...+ rep as well...Thank you....Now when I go on vacation in a couple months...I can rest assured the system will run by itself for 18 days... I knew something wasnt right lol...
 

patlpp

New Member
Thanks patlpp...+ rep as well...Thank you....Now when I go on vacation in a couple months...I can rest assured the system will run by itself for 18 days... I knew something wasnt right lol...

LOL Thats alright,all you can do is laugh about it. :lol:
One more critical thing: make sure you use that elbow with the silver tape on your resi connection on the lid where the tube connects to the pump. It has a hole in it to break any possible siphon !! 18 days is a loooong time. I don't know....... depends on how many buckets your using.
 
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