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also one of my lights is shinning brighter than the other i have tried using different outlets and just can seem to get it as bright as the other one, any suggestions? also whats the coolest i sholuld ever let my tent go because the temp seems to drop at night when the lights go off

simpsonsampson420 said:

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Very nice ladies from seed. Great use of the space. Keep em growin!

thank you.. i will definitely be keeping things going and trying to improve where i can... your more than welcome to follow along in my journal.. links in my sig..

love the vid/setup sampson, thats the one thing i hate about 1000's, cant take full advantage of air cooled hoods, i always used to get bleaching, anyhows i run chillers too and i got my holesaw and made a hole in the lid and one on the side of the rez for the input/output and ran grommets, i once had 55 gallon of oh shit on the floor cus the chiller line fell out the res

i have had a few spills myself.. a chiller line dropped out of the res... the return line from the timer bucket to the res came off... i think i have had 3 large "floods" like that.. but i have my things locked down to avoid that now...

my hoods and lights stay plenty cool.. heat is not the issue.. i just have 750w lights close enough to the lights that some actually touch the glass of the reflectors now... i know i should/could back them off.. but they seem to be doing on.. why fix what doesnt seem apparently broken.. other than not being bright green they look great! but it also closer to their ending cycle which im sure has something to play as a part in the entire scheme of things..

what is a good size tent for the ebb and grow 12 site setup? and is a water chilelr necessary for this set-up? i was thinking of two 600watthps on a twelve site, would that be a good amount of light?

oh certainly im sure its cool enough, but all those lumens, at 750w probably over 125k of lumens concentrated over a small area is what gives light bleaching

its definitely a lot of light for a small space... i think in the future ill keep the lights up a little higher.. i am anxious to see what happens when i turn them up to 1000 or the super setting...

L.A.RAIDER said:

now and then mine doesnt drain back into the res. either. it only seems to do it on the first watering cycle of the day. SO I un plug the controler bucket and plugit right back in, it should start draing then.

If you find out whats causing it let me know. but this is a temporary fix thats working for me until I find the reason its not draing back in everytime or just return it under its warantee.

let me know if you have any luck

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And this is why I insist on making my own system everytime so that way i full understand what is going on and how the sytem works i'm not calling you a dumbass this is just my preference do as you wish just keep what i said in mind plus it's way cheaper $50.

hey what's up simpson, sounds like things been groin good

Originally Posted by L.A.RAIDER
now and then mine doesnt drain back into the res. either. it only seems to do it on the first watering cycle of the day. SO I un plug the controler bucket and plugit right back in, it should start draing then.

If you find out whats causing it let me know. but this is a temporary fix thats working for me until I find the reason its not draing back in everytime or just return it under its warantee.

let me know if you have any luck


as for people who use chillers with a seperate pump we would know this pump failure issue, if you allow the res to get low you can get an air bubble into the hose, these mag pumps arent strong enough to blow them out, if this happens to you try sucking the hose with your mouth to pull the fluid, you need the cyphoning effect, your going to probably get a mouthful at first

how big is everyones rootmass on their plants? I'm in my first cycle in my ebb and grow and i expected the roots to be filling the bottom bucket but they are not. when i moved the plants into the system the roots were about 12-14&quot; grown in a aeroponic system. i had 2 late bloomers that i put in that only had about 3&quot; roots. the ones that i put in late with 3&quot; roots have few long strands out of the first bucket about 9-10&quot; the 42&quot; plants that had very long roots only have about 3&quot; roots out of the top bucket but every hole has at least 5-6 roots coming out of it. they don't seem to be choked in the holes there is still space in each hole so i assume they have the room to continue getting bigger if they chose to but they just haven't. roots are still white but a little off white and i credit this to the 2&quot; of standing water in the bottom bucket.

my first time with the system i had no roots come out at all, everything was still fine, main body of roots stay and fill in the upper bucket first then you should get a nice thick layer sitting in the bottom bucket, they should turn off white when they get older during flowering, thats not a problem

algeezy509 said:

hey what's up simpson, sounds like things been groin good

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oh ya.. very well!!

xceptional said:

how big is everyones rootmass on their plants? I'm in my first cycle in my ebb and grow and i expected the roots to be filling the bottom bucket but they are not. when i moved the plants into the system the roots were about 12-14&quot; grown in a aeroponic system. i had 2 late bloomers that i put in that only had about 3&quot; roots. the ones that i put in late with 3&quot; roots have few long strands out of the first bucket about 9-10&quot; the 42&quot; plants that had very long roots only have about 3&quot; roots out of the top bucket but every hole has at least 5-6 roots coming out of it. they don't seem to be choked in the holes there is still space in each hole so i assume they have the room to continue getting bigger if they chose to but they just haven't. roots are still white but a little off white and i credit this to the 2&quot; of standing water in the bottom bucket.

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all my sites end up completely full of roots, plus some hanging out the bottom of the drain bucket...

when i pull my roots out of the bucket, the hydroton and roots stay formed exactly like the bucket... i have to break them up if i want to try to save the hydroton.. i switched to coco coir so i could just throw the shit away and not worry about it...

hey sampson hows that coco work how offtn do you water?

so my ebb and grow is up in running now with mostly trainwreck clones my 4x8 tent is around 84 degrees should it be cooler? i am using 2x 1000w hps cool tubes i have the rez out of the tent, i am feeding 3 times a day 15 min each and am using the GH line. i have a few questions, what should the temp be? how can i lower it if it becomes to high? i have an inline fan 435 c.f.m. with a stand fan going at all times i just cant seem to get my temp low enough with both lights running and the tent zipped up also i see alot of people are using H202 and does this help? how much do you use? also i see your supposed to flush the plants every time i change the rez, what do you mean by this. any help or tips will be greatly appreciated.
also one of my lights is shinning brighter than the other i have tried using different outlets and just can seem to get it as bright as the other one, any suggestions? also whats the coolest i sholuld ever let my tent go because the temp seems to drop at night when the lights go off

84 is at the high end of acceptable. 80 would be better for mold prevention and stress. Are you sucking air through your cool-tube or pushing it (you should be sucking)? CFM of cool-tube fan?

I am feeding 5 times a day (while the lights are on). Every 3 hours. No water at night. GH Nutes.

My tent also drops temp at night. The plants like this. I don't let it get colder than about 50f.

it is blowing air through the cool tubes, i am keeping the doors open on the tent now i can usually keep the tent around 80 now. i think i might have to get a portable a/c so the inline fan is sucking in cooler air rather than what i keep the house at... SmokingRubber what would you recommend using ppm wise as far as clones and when do you increase?

mrduke said:

hey sampson hows that coco work how offtn do you water?

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i water 4x daily for just a 15 minute interval...

it works well actually... its really dusty and shit when you first use it.. expect to inhale some.. www.suretogrow.com/hydroponic-supply-deluge im sorry if the link didnt copy.. my mouse is broke so i am having to type everything out... if it didnt google what i put... i am thinking about trying out some of these inserts.. they are made specifically for this system.. they look interesting, and very clean....

boxing119 said:

it is blowing air through the cool tubes, i am keeping the doors open on the tent now i can usually keep the tent around 80 now. i think i might have to get a portable a/c so the inline fan is sucking in cooler air rather than what i keep the house at... SmokingRubber what would you recommend using ppm wise as far as clones and when do you increase?

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i personally start clones and sprouts at about an EC of .6

Everyone wants to try those inserts. I think a poster in this thread said once and never again. I'm not going to look for it, but the post said they retained too much water so you can't feed as often and flood heights are problematic, oh, and the insert compacts/slumps in the bucket.

Do you have to use coco-specific nutes?

simpsonsampson420 said:

i water 4x daily for just a 15 minute interval...

it works well actually... its really dusty and shit when you first use it.. expect to inhale some.. www.suretogrow.com/hydroponic-supply-deluge im sorry if the link didnt copy.. my mouse is broke so i am having to type everything out... if it didnt google what i put... i am thinking about trying out some of these inserts.. they are made specifically for this system.. they look interesting, and very clean....



i personally start clones and sprouts at about an EC of .6

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