Free Form L-Aminoacids +LEDs = WOW!!!

stealthyninja66 said:
Are you running a control plant without amino? Or is this a regularly grown strain for you. I'm very interested in the outcome and subbed for more info.
Click to expand...
Yes, where is the control? Without a plant not getting the tested additive, this is just a grow journal. Im not saying its not a nice one, just that it looks as though the op is trying to prove the relevance of aminos by just growing a plant with them and thats really not science. The plant is very nice looking though, and the aminos seem to be working along with whatever else is being added.
 
SuperJIVE is back!lol



churchhaze said:
It definitely does look like strong growth.. but I doubt it has anything to do with the amino acids. Amino acids in soil is just N that hasn't been converted to ammonia yet.

About the Magnesium deficiency... Maybe this has magnesium in it:
62c63deb-e3f0-424c-af08-0215f7c19d9f_400.jpg
Click to expand...
 
MasterpieceNutes said:
Meh. I would just use kelp treatment myself. Cheaper AND known ingredients.
Click to expand...
With kelp being brought into the equation. Any thoughts on how often kelp should be used? i know the hydro companies like to sell it for continuous use but one of the kelp manufacturers I contacted said not more than 1 application every 2 weeks. Something like apply the dose and give the plant time to make it's hormonal response before applying again.

Back to amino acids. In Hydroponics - do they have the power to make calcium more available to the plant?
 
OneHitDone said:
With kelp being brought into the equation. Any thoughts on how often kelp should be used? i know the hydro companies like to sell it for continuous use but one of the kelp manufacturers I contacted said not more than 1 application every 2 weeks. Something like apply the dose and give the plant time to make it's hormonal response before applying again.

Back to amino acids. In Hydroponics - do they have the power to make calcium more available to the plant?
Click to expand...

If it chelates it'll make calcium more readily available EDIT: hydro or soil (breaking down the bonds), I foliar with kelp (nitrozyme) as often as twice a week and the kids have nothing negative to say (3:2 kelp:fulvic acid)

EDIT2: I. Love. Cytonkinins.
 
Last edited:
MasterpieceNutes said:
Superthrive..

I know it works. I just can't bring myself to use something whose ingredients are a complete mystery and secret. For like 60+ years! Very interesting stuff however. WW2 they used it extensively for field camouflage operations in which they would transplant a lot of vegetation: superthrive helped. Ditto with higher salt soils: helped plants adapt. They have Army and Navy endorsements..

Illegal in 2 states. How CA isn't one of them, I'll never understand. Definitely unregistered and known insecticide in there, definitely some root hormone regulator too.. They added kelp recently.

Meh. I would just use kelp treatment myself. Cheaper AND known ingredients.
Click to expand...
I've used that super shit various times over 30 years of gardening & never actually seen any benefit to the stuff
I've used other hydrolyzed products with good success
 
Scotch089 said:
If it chelates it'll make calcium more readily available EDIT: hydro or soil (breaking down the bonds), I foliar with kelp (nitrozyme) as often as twice a week and the kids have nothing negative to say (3:2 kelp:fulvic acid)

EDIT2: I. Love. Cytonkinins.
Click to expand...

If you love cytokinins, try adding some fresh coconut water/ Freeze dried coconut powder to your watering schedule.
For fresh coconuts, an application of 2oz coconut water per gallon of water works wonders. Loaded with enzymes, natural hormones and nutrients.
 
nogod_ said:
It is truly silly how many folks pay an arm and a leg for fertilizers then they flush the best "nutes" down the toilet.

Been composting my shit for a few years now...I don't hesitate to put it on the ganja but a little squeamish still about using it on the microgreens! :oops:
Click to expand...

oh man that is fucking awesome, I want a composting toilet when I get out of the burbs...been saving up!

I remember a quote somewhere, that said something like, each time you pee in the toilet, it is like flushing $3.50 of the best high grade plant fertilizer....

I use recycled organic soil with worm castings, dilute my pee to 15:1 and always bottom water, never spray or top feed....

Also use a little fresh aloe from time to time, Potassium silica and cold press Neem for the critters. Im happy. :) Going on well over a year on just this, and for all my plants not just me cannabis:).

oc 4.jpg

room.jpg
 
I am a secret urine hoarder.
The first time my wife caught me peeing into a bottle instead of the toilet was awkward. I charge my home made biochar with urine and compost/worm poo teas. It thrills me to complete the circle of life in such a simple and effective way.
I had to promise the wife to hide my urea stash from the kids and anyone else really.

I also find my fish tank provides natural fertilised water in great abundance. I do not see myself composting fecal matter anytime soon. though I have great regard for the merit of such persons who do. It is however a bridge too far for me at the moment.

Cheers,
Will
 
Will Thayer said:
I am a secret urine hoarder.
The first time my wife caught me peeing into a bottle instead of the toilet was awkward. I charge my home made biochar with urine and compost/worm poo teas. It thrills me to complete the circle of life in such a simple and effective way.
I had to promise the wife to hide my urea stash from the kids and anyone else really.

I also find my fish tank provides natural fertilised water in great abundance. I do not see myself composting fecal matter anytime soon. though I have great regard for the merit of such persons who do. It is however a bridge too far for me at the moment.

Cheers,
Will
Click to expand...

For anyone interested google night soil and check those bananas with a sticker saying grown in Mexico or along the Guat/Hond border...

I hear you on the urine collection, I have been secretly hiding away at times, all urine work is clandestine in Western culture, lol......charcoal and urine though make the outdoor spot look purty....I have about 4 inch layer of duff: charcoal, sawdust, peat, grass clippings, nettle, weeds, etc...the worms eat the fudge out of the duff layer....then the actual soil is down there my O layer, more like a humic A layer really...lots of clay from volcanic sources and sea air not too far away acts like a Xerosol like over in the desert in summer [quick drainage], but is the worst clay in the winter, since we average about 30+ inches of rain during off summer months :)...some of the low mountains receive 200+ each year:) ....Hoping for a good year this years...

souil.jpg
 
Fastslappy said:
I don't doubt you u guys but I'm not a big fan of urea use weather it's my own free pee or a packaged nute o_O
Click to expand...

Do not fear the Pee Pee, It is your friend. Join us, join us and be a part of the Pee Pee collective. We shall cross our streams and rebuild a better world. A world where men and women use their urine proudly for all to see. For too long we have toiled in the shadows, shackled by the unyielding grip of oppressive overlords. Brothers and Sisters unzip I say, and stand as one enriching our soils with the precious fruit of our bladders.

* Please note article 14 of the Pee Pee collective states that under no circumstances is "sword fighting" or "dick chicken" appropriate behavior. It is the council's belief that such displays of wanton abandon would only prove a detriment to the collective as a whole by discouraging new membership.

Cheers,
Will "Tinkle" Thayer
 
Class A/B biosolids have been used in US ag. for some time now...........unfortunately their have been some e coli outbreaks from farmers using class b?(not sure, rumored) on food crops....... increasing antibiotic resistance is a concern too, got to take that "shit" out of our diary/meat products asap IMO.
 
PSUAGRO. said:
Class A/B biosolids have been used in US ag. for some time now...........unfortunately their have been some e coli outbreaks from farmers using class b?(not sure, rumored) on food crops....... increasing antibiotic resistance is a concern too, got to take that "shit" out of our diary/meat products asap IMO.
Click to expand...

They do the same in the U.K. You can see the farmers doing it to their fields. It has an awful stench. I agree with you about what we allow farmers to give animals for the sake of profit. When I first moved to the U.K. (early 90s) they were feeding cattle offal (bits of dead animals) and we had the BSE(mad cow disease) scare.
upload_2016-4-27_8-35-53.jpeg

Cheers,
Will
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top