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Ok I did allot of research and came up with the method I would like to use that method is fim I hear good things about that method but I have a couple of questions that I couldn’t find online so I figured I could def get the answers I need on RIU.

1. When do I fim and how often for example 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th week of veg or flowering stage?

2. Can I fim more than once for example let’s say 4 tops come after the 1st fim can I fim them (is that ok to do)?

my other questions are concerning trimming the plant how do I trim a plant so the light could have the most effect on it or do I cut the fan leaves if so when, and how often?

All responses are greatly appreciated thx.

1. you should fim in veg only
2. yes u can, after u let the plant recover long enough
3. i wouldnt prune, but thats just my opinion, alot of ppl do, i just read that depriving the plants of their lungs (fan leaves) that yur plants overall health will suffer

diamonddave said:

1. you should fim in veg only
2. yes u can, after u let the plant recover long enough
3. i wouldnt prune, but thats just my opinion, alot of ppl do, i just read that depriving the plants of their lungs (fan leaves) that yur plants overall health will suffer

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I have read that you should start fimming when there are 4 nodes in veg state, also how would you know your plant have recovered from the first fim so you could fim again. Oh and after doing some reading I will not cut the fan leaves allot of ppl are opposed to doing that and I follow experience but I I'll trim the under and bottom grow of the plant also pushing the fan leaves to the side.
Thx for your response man it's greatly apreciated

Prune the undergrowth and side shoots that won't amount to anything. Keep the bottom inside are of the plant clean of debris and unnecessary leaves for good ventilation and as a pest preventive measure. Selective pruning is good for every other plant in mother nature, from roses, to azaleas, trees to weed. It encourages new growth, allows leaves to breathe better and eliminates hiding spots for pests.

While it is true that leaves produce energy, the plant also stores it and easily recovers from pruning in veg, especially if given a "night" period. That and the fact that we supply nutes to our plants outweigh any cons for pruning. Try it yourself and see the results. I've NEVER, in my 50 some years, ever come across a plant that didn't appreciate smart pruning.

That sound very informative mr. Gunja I personally will prune about 50% of the little leaves and all of the bottom leaves but will leave the big fan leaves just in case. Also how often do you think I need to prune? and is it safe to prune in flowering period?

yeah, fiming (and most pruning) is based more on the structure of the plant than age. Usually people will go for the 3-5th true node (meaning nodes with serrated fan leaves). Really pruning techniques are mostly mechanical and the way the plant will respond is pretty much textbook. I'm a big fan of fimming, but I had a lot of experience with topping before I started. You can fim more than once, and fim and top, but as stated, give it some testing before you go nutz. A few things I have found: if I fim too early the plant will grow a bulbous mass of leaves that will grow in radius for several weeks, and achieve nearly no vertical growth (but insane lateral growth). Once the growth tips make it past the mass of canopy they will really take off and you can grow fairly solid cylinders up to a few feet in diameter. If you fim too late it can branch more than you want and restrict undergrowth. Something I can't help but add is that fiming is harder. To get a good fim you have to be at the right stage at the growth tip, and it's kinda easy to create wide variations in how it responds when you are dealing with such small pieces of anatomy. On a few plants I've missed the time I wanted and had to wait an extra node anyway. Practicing with topping will help you learn what you are doing and how plants respond, and after all, fim's come from fucking up a topping

It might help to think of all pruning techniques as tools in the task of growing your plants in the shape you want them. The more experience with how things react, the better you will get at it. In that vein you might fim at 4 true nodes, let it veg for 2-4 weeks, then top any groth in areas that you want to fill in more, give it another 2-3 weeks and then flower. Or you could hold of on fimming for your first few plants and get used to how topping responds, which will give you a leg up when you try fimming.

By flowering period, you should have done all of your necessary pruning. Avoid pruning after the second week of flowering if at all possible. You don't want to throw the plant into too severe a shock. I only prune my plants maybe thrice in their life. I prune when I top, I prune 1 week after topping to make sure secondary colas can see light and I prune about 1-2 weeks into flowering.

Each time i prune, I'm more selective than the time before. I consider each leaf and look at whether it's removal would benefit the plant or not. If it is crowding the plants under canopy or blocking sun to other tops, I remove it. That is of course for plants I intend to flower. Mother candidates get pruned all the time to encourage branching for clone candidates.

Serapis i just read your journal man you are very meticulous which is a great thing but now you got me worried about the heat and the amount of power I'm using 2 600 watt hps/mh combo and a 424 cfm scrubber. But I'm going threw with it anyway. So prune 3 times a life cycle fim after 3-5 nodes wait a week top (how would I know where to top or fim again) then wait another week and flower rite?


Oh!! Serapis since you are obviously knowledgable about LEDs what type or how many LEDs will equal a 1000 watt mh/hps