Fuk Vancouver's Park Board - GO 420 Vancouver !!!!

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Dana Larsen:

"If you're complaining about the minor costs of policing at our 4/20 protest, but you're not complaining about the massive multi-billion dollar policing cost of our futile and murderous war on drug users, then you are part of the problem that we are protesting against."
 
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Jodie Emery said:

"Cost to taxpayers?
You don’t really care about that — because other events (at Sunset Beach, with bylaw exemptions, and parties & protests) get hundreds of thousands of tax $ to pay for their event costs. Self-funded 4/20 gets ZERO tax $ to pay for ours. http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/news/metro/vancouver+grants+civic+status+ensuring+subsidies+pride+parade/8452500/story.html…"
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VIANARCHRIS said,
"I fully support civil disobedience for a cause - selling brownies in the park is not a protest"

VIANARCHRIS said,
"I buy 'afghan' hash at the local bm dispensary regularly for $150 /half oz"

The you said,
"What exactly are they "protesting"? It is a commercial money-making event. It's time to shut it down, imho."

So you support civil disobedience when it suits you only?
You think only LP's have a right to make money......and not the little guy who actually loves the plant ?

Selling brownies at the park IS a protest against CRONY CAPITALISM!
 
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QUAD BREATH said:
Seriously? Since I joined this site just about every thread is about how the government is fuking us and you wonder what they are protesting about? My question is why aren't more people protesting? We all can't be Dana Larsen's or Jodie Emery's but, as an individual, you can support those that are standing up for our rights and TRUTH.
You don't think regular Canadian citizens, who actually love the plant, should be able to make money doing something they love and causing no harm to others ? Or do you believe in the CRONY system where you are forced to buy products from them and, if not, your threatened with jail ?

If you read above, this is what Dana said: "Some people thought salt was an insignificant issue, not worth protesting about. Salt was controlled by the British, sold at inflated prices, and domestic salt production was banned. (Remind you of anything..?)"

The following is from the Vancouver 420 website:

Isn’t cannabis legalized? What is 4/20 Vancouver protesting?
According to lawyers and civil liberties advocates, cannabis criminalization and rights violations continue to exist under the “Cannabis Act” in Canada.

The Cannabis Act created 45 new criminal offences; devoted hundreds of millions of dollars in additional law enforcement spending, on top of the pre-existing half-billion dollars being spent; and introduced new costly, punitive measures on provincial and municipal levels.

People are still being arrested and sent to jail – ten months locked in a cell, for 86 grams of a flowers from a plant! – and losing their housing, children, job opportunities, travel rights, and more.

Medical cannabis patients do not have access to cannabis, and are seeing their medicine being sold by governments and corporations in a recreational market run by former police and politicians.

The ongoing discrimination and intolerance of cannabis and events like 4/20 demonstrates why there’s still a need for public cultural gatherings and educational opportunities. There’s a stigma attached to cannabis, and harm caused by the laws, so that is why we still protest.
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Seriously. Trust me on that. No one is more vocal than I am about my right to smoke cannabis (cannabiscandor.ca is mostly articles I've written on the subject), but there are ways to get to where we want that doesn't involve thumbing our noses at society in general. I'm of the opinion that a party and market set up in a park does more harm than good in trying to achieve what we want out of legalization. How is selling overpriced brownies in a park contribute to advancing the normalization of cannabis? We don't see events where people bring their home made beer down to the park and set up shop.
 
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Any other special interest group wouldn't be given this much trouble unless it was a white pride event. I personally probably wouldn't go but still support them showing up to a public park and consuming cannabis as people see fit. Maybe it's too commercial but it doesn't seem like an event that costs the city money. That whole parks board in Vancouver is run by power tripping egomaniacs.
 
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VIANARCHRIS said:
How is selling overpriced brownies in a park contribute to advancing the normalization of cannabis?
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Why are you worried about normalizing cannabis when the LP's are already doing that for you; albeit, in their own interest ?

VIANARCHRIS said:
selling brownies in the park is not a protest
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Again, selling brownies in the park is "civil disobedience" and IS a protest against CRONY CAPITALISM! - I'm sorry you can't see that.
 
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VIANARCHRIS

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QUAD BREATH said:
Why are you worried about normalizing cannabis when the LP's are already doing that for you; albeit, in their own interest ?



Again, selling brownies in the park is "civil disobedience" and IS a protest against CRONY CAPITALISM! - I'm sorry you can't see that.
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No need to be sorry....and no need for me to agree with you. The vendors at the event are there to make money - they don't give a shit about civil disobedience. They don't give a fuck about selling to kids. Would home brewers get away with the same thing?
How in the fuck are LP's normalizing weed? They're growing garbage to put on store shelves, they are not normalizing it's use. That's up to us. These events attract folks who are enjoying more than pot, but their drunken antics and overdoses are blamed on the event.
When all the general public hears is the negatives, it is going to be another 90 years before it is accepted. Why not act like adults, abide (somewhat) by the laws and fight the system from a legal standpoint. Do what you want to do, but please don't be under the false assumption that you are protesting for a cause - you are just setting the movement backwards imo.
 
CalyxCrusher

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^^^^ Can you please expand on this ?
That was Dana's quote explaining his inspirations, tactics, and reasons for protest. What exactly makes your stomach turn ? Is there something inaccurate you disagree with because I'm curious to know ?
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There's naming your inspirations and then there's rambling on trying to educate people in history as though they've never heard of Ghandi or taken a fucking history class. Almost as bad as Emery, for rambling on. The kinda guy you ask for the time and he tells you the history of the time piece and how to fucking build one.
 
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QUAD BREATH said:
If you read above, this is what Dana said: "Some people thought salt was an insignificant issue, not worth protesting about. Salt was controlled by the British, sold at inflated prices, and domestic salt production was banned. (Remind you of anything..?)"
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And yet salt is widely available worldwide at a cheap price nowadays......... Unlike salt you can grow your own cannabis
 
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420 Vancouver is still a Protest – 12 Reasons Why : Dana Larsen
Dana LarsenApril 19, 2019
Some are saying 420 Vancouver is not a protest. Here are the 12 reasons why they’re wrong.

1. We are protesting that cannabis users have no legal places to use cannabis.

2. We are protesting that we are treated and punished far more severely than alcohol users in every way.

3. We are protesting that the cannabis industry is being taken over by millionaires, ex-cops and prohibitionist politicians, while those communities most harmed by prohibition are left out and continue to be demonized.

4. We are protesting that it has become harder for most patients to easily access medical cannabis now than it was before “legalization”.

5. We are protesting that events with alcohol use can get permits to use public spaces, but events with cannabis use are forbidden from getting permits.

6. We are protesting the very high taxes on cannabis, especially taxes on medical cannabis, which is taxed like no other legal medicine.

7. We are protesting arbitrary limitations, like how growing more than 4 cannabis plants at home remains a serious crime, but there are no limits on home beer brewing.

8. We are protesting the discriminatory driving laws which declare people to be impaired even if they are a medical user or haven’t ingested cannabis for days.

9. We are protesting the recent VPD raid and seizure of cannabis from the Overdose Prevention Site, where it was being offered for free as a safe substitute for opioids.

10. We are protesting Vancouver city bylaws which are closing dispensaries and restricting cannabis shops far more strictly than liquor stores.

11. We also protest and hold space in solidarity with those around the world who live in more repressive regimes, and suffer torture, beatings and death over cannabis.

12. We are protesting the whole vicious war on drug users which continues to kill people every single day.

Anyone who says “there is nothing to protest” isn’t paying attention!

A protest is an act of civil disobedience designed to challenge existing rules, draw public attention to an issue, and create social and political change. In all these ways, 420 is a very successful protest! We hope you will be with us at Sunset Beach on April 20, to join in a celebration of cannabis, and a protest against the prohibition, punishments and stigma which still remain. Together we will liberate cannabis users everywhere.
 
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VIANARCHRIS

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QUAD BREATH said:

420 Vancouver is still a Protest – 12 Reasons Why : Dana Larsen
Dana LarsenApril 19, 2019
Some are saying 420 Vancouver is not a protest. Here are the 12 reasons why they’re wrong.

1. We are protesting that cannabis users have no legal places to use cannabis.

2. We are protesting that we are treated and punished far more severely than alcohol users in every way.

3. We are protesting that the cannabis industry is being taken over by millionaires, ex-cops and prohibitionist politicians, while those communities most harmed by prohibition are left out and continue to be demonized.

4. We are protesting that it has become harder for most patients to easily access medical cannabis now than it was before “legalization”.

5. We are protesting that events with alcohol use can get permits to use public spaces, but events with cannabis use are forbidden from getting permits.

6. We are protesting the very high taxes on cannabis, especially taxes on medical cannabis, which is taxed like no other legal medicine.

7. We are protesting arbitrary limitations, like how growing more than 4 cannabis plants at home remains a serious crime, but there are no limits on home beer brewing.

8. We are protesting the discriminatory driving laws which declare people to be impaired even if they are a medical user or haven’t ingested cannabis for days.

9. We are protesting the recent VPD raid and seizure of cannabis from the Overdose Prevention Site, where it was being offered for free as a safe substitute for opioids.

10. We are protesting Vancouver city bylaws which are closing dispensaries and restricting cannabis shops far more strictly than liquor stores.

11. We also protest and hold space in solidarity with those around the world who live in more repressive regimes, and suffer torture, beatings and death over cannabis.

12. We are protesting the whole vicious war on drug users which continues to kill people every single day.

Anyone who says “there is nothing to protest” isn’t paying attention!

A protest is an act of civil disobedience designed to challenge existing rules, draw public attention to an issue, and create social and political change. In all these ways, 420 is a very successful protest! We hope you will be with us at Sunset Beach on April 20, to join in a celebration of cannabis, and a protest against the prohibition, punishments and stigma which still remain. Together we will liberate cannabis users everywhere.
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So which of those 12 'protests' does selling brownies in a public park address and how will this 'civil disobedience' change that? I have been a cannabis advocate and activist for decades and I've partaken in civil disobedience many times - this is not that. This is like Andy Scheer staging a walkout protest in the HoC...when you get past high school, you are expected to act like adults. The average age of a cannabis user on my island is about 60+ and we will gather at the beach this afternoon, share a taste of our weed and laugh at the idiots at the 420 in Vancouver. We will have zero OD deaths, zero drunks no destruction of property and the cops will stop by to say hello and talk about the weather. The sea lions will be off the beach barking at us. It's not a protest, it's a celebration of a plant.
 
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4:20 protests are as relevant as they ever have been.

I grew up in Richmond right next door to Vansterdam and was in on all the first protests way back in the day.

Greenpeace marches about atomic testing in the Illusion islands near Alaska. Got chased by a cop on a horse at the Gastown riots and partied hardy at the makeup party a few weeks later. Mayor Tom Campbowels was so hated back then and Harold Hedd was the local comic book hero of the day.

Prohibition 2.0 is NOT legality and the insult to the cannabis community needs to be dealt with in the time honoured way it has always been dealt with. Get together and smoke the hell out of the place!

Until we can grow and consume pot as freely as tomatoes or even beer/wine and tobacco we are 2nd class citizens. All those were prohibited at one time and constant civil defiance finally freed up the worst of the prohibitions. We are so far from that at this moment in time.

Boycotting 'legal' pot is one of the best ways to combat the corporate takeover of our beloved plant but there are still too many ignorant stoners out there keeping them in business. Educate the masses whenever possible!

The war still rages but the battle lines have been redrawn.
 
The Hippy

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OldMedUser said:
4:20 protests are as relevant as they ever have been.

I grew up in Richmond right next door to Vansterdam and was in on all the first protests way back in the day.

Greenpeace marches about atomic testing in the Illusion islands near Alaska. Got chased by a cop on a horse at the Gastown riots and partied hardy at the makeup party a few weeks later. Mayor Tom Campbowels was so hated back then and Harold Hedd was the local comic book hero of the day.

Prohibition 2.0 is NOT legality and the insult to the cannabis community needs to be dealt with in the time honoured way it has always been dealt with. Get together and smoke the hell out of the place!

Until we can grow and consume pot as freely as tomatoes or even beer/wine and tobacco we are 2nd class citizens. All those were prohibited at one time and constant civil defiance finally freed up the worst of the prohibitions. We are so far from that at this moment in time.

Boycotting 'legal' pot is one of the best ways to combat the corporate takeover of our beloved plant but there are still too many ignorant stoners out there keeping them in business. Educate the masses whenever possible!

The war still rages on but the battle lines have been redrawn.
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Your dam right Oldmed...that fight is still on bigger than ever.
I'm not about to forgive them now or ever most likely. Best I can do is avoid ALL contact with gov weed in any form or manner. If everyone did just that small thing...we'd have won months ago.
trudy groper runway can go to hell with his pals and ex-cop buddies. ..fantantatina..blair witch and ralphy boy-o.
Your right Oldmed...he's insulted us with this whole deal. Worse laws and taking cannabis as their own invention now.....go to hell maggot hair. By the way is his dirty old mama still sucking off any of the the Rolling Stones? Just Askin?
 
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