Gary Johnson?

Are you ready?

  • Oh god, yes

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • I dunno, maybe

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • No, not a chance

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • Total voters
    12

bluntmassa1

Well-Known Member
Unfortunately we have to change our spending. Also I did not see where he wants to get rid of medicaid or medicare.

Also there is the congress to go through before something lile that could happen.
Which is exactly why it doesn't matter who becomes president we are in for another 4 years of shit either way.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Unfortunately we have to change our spending. Also I did not see where he wants to get rid of medicaid or medicare.

Also there is the congress to go through before something lile that could happen.
here you go pie..
Q: How do you stop the deficits and out of control spending?

A: I'm under the belief that we are on the verge of a financial collapse. And we have no ability to repay $14 trillion in debt if we're racking up $1.6 trillion in deficit spending in deficit spending this year, and the years looking ahead. Look, we're not going to pay back $14 trillion in debt. We have to embark on balancing the federal budget tomorrow.

Q: How?

A: Well, cutting $1.675 trillion from the federal government. You got to start out by talking about Medicare and Medicaid by 43 percent. They could block grant the states, 50 laboratories of innovation. Give it to the states to deliver health care to the poor and those over 65 and do away with the strings. Do away with that regulations; let states handle it. There would be best practices emerge. Other states would emulate the best practices. They're be failure. States would avoid the failure.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Health_Care.htm
and here's what the block grant thing is he's talking about..

The latest proposal to block grant Medicaid in Texas is a terrible one for the state, its children, people with disabilities, and the elderly. Unfortunately, this bad idea, which just never seems to die, is once again being trotted out by Texas governor Rick Perry and his friends at the Texas Public Policy Foundation.

Federal block grants are, by definition, an arbitrarily capped amount of federal funding that go to states in the form of a lump sum payment and fail to adjust for population growth, economic changes, public health crises, or natural disasters such as hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.

Thus, states with growing populations, such as Texas, or states often in the pathway of natural disasters, such as Texas, or states with a disproportionate share of low wage jobs, such as Texas, would be most negatively impacted by a federally-imposed block grant. As need increases due to any of these factors, block grants and federal assistance are, by definition, unresponsive and unhelpful. States would be left facing the full brunt of any calamity or crisis.

Looking to protect the states from the problems inherent in their block grant proposal, former Congressman Dick Armey and former State Rep. Arlene Wohlgemuth argued in a Politico op-ed on April Fools’ Day, “Once a block grant is in place, Texas should fundamentally transform Medicaid from a defined benefit program to a defined contribution program for most eligibility groups. This would undoubtedly lead to cost savings and a more sustainable system over the long term. With skin in the game, and without an unlimited guarantee of state and federal funds, Medicaid enrollees would be more efficient in their use of health care and more engaged as consumers.”

Put another way, states would not have to worry because any costs above the per-determined and federally-imposed arbitrary limit in the block grant would simply be shifted to low-income children, the disabled, and the elderly — the very people that Medicaid is intended to protect. Asking low-income children, the disabled, and the elderly to put “skin the game” when need is increasing and support is capped will lead to one outcome: health care rationing.

Since block grants are arbitrarily capped, federal support would no longer adjust for changes in need or population and this would particularly be a disaster to Texas because it is one of the fastest growing states in the country. In fact, between 2000 and 2010, the number of children across the entire country increased by 1.9 million. But, in Texas alone, the number of children increased by 979,000 — which is more thanhalf of all the growth in the combined 50 states and the District of Columbia.

Moreover, since block grants fail to adjust appropriately for changes in need, current inequities and disparities are permanently locked into place and often expand. For Texas, which already starts with the 2nd highest uninsured rate for children in the country, the situation would get worse with the federal government cutting back and capping its support to Texas despite its rapidly growing population.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-lesley/medicaid-block-grants-texas_b_3044635.html
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Governor Johnson has pledged that his first major act as President will be to submit to Congress a truly balanced budget. No gimmicks, no imaginary cuts in the distant future. Real reductions to bring spending into line with revenues, without tax increases. No line in the budget will be immune from scrutiny and reduction. And he pledges to veto any legislation that will result in deficit spending, forcing Congress to override his veto in order to spend money we don’t have.
Deciphering...

Minor pentagon cuts, huge social safety net cuts, no regard for the economic and social damage it will cause, as long as his donors, the Koch brothers, profit massively.
 

Flaming Pie

Well-Known Member
The devil is in the details, though, and for the most part legislation that passes really promotes crony capitalism, promotes those that have money as opposed to a level playing field for everybody. So I am a skeptic, but based on what I know, I would sign TPP.

- Gary Johnson
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
The devil is in the details, though, and for the most part legislation that passes really promotes crony capitalism, promotes those that have money as opposed to a level playing field for everybody. So I am a skeptic, but based on what I know, I would sign TPP.

- Gary Johnson
So you like him because he's full of shit and talks from both sides of his mouth? He admits it is garbage but that he still supports it...

Did I mention he was a huge Koch sucker?
 

Flaming Pie

Well-Known Member
I'm just telling you he's a Koch sucker. I don't chillax, I get high and troll republicans. It's funner and more productive than chillaxing. I also enjoy it more. Enjoying this is relaxing for me in this crazy heat.
Just trying to discuss the presidential candidates. Pool resources to find information quickly.

Sorry that offends you.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Just trying to discuss the presidential candidates. Pool resources to find information quickly.

Sorry that offends you.
only idiots are "researching" candidates right now. the rest of us have known what everyone has been up to for years now.

and what you're doing can't really be called research. more like enforcing your own confirmation biases.

just pathetic, low information voter stuff. it makes me sad that people like you even get to vote.
 

bluntmassa1

Well-Known Member
only idiots are "researching" candidates right now. the rest of us have known what everyone has been up to for years now.

and what you're doing can't really be called research. more like enforcing your own confirmation biases.

just pathetic, low information voter stuff. it makes me sad that people like you even get to vote.
Say's the idiot voting for Hillary...
 
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