Gasoline ,experts say they could reach a record $4.25 by late April.

makes sense that gas is going up.

how many MPG do you get on your ride?

I think the only way we are going to avoid the energy crisis is to embrace rising oil prices, which will promote alternatives.

lifegoesonbrah said:

I think the only way we are going to avoid the energy crisis is to embrace rising oil prices, which will promote alternatives.

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I have been looking at the 2012 Civic GX. It uses compressed natural gas. The down side is it costs about $7000 more than a regular civic, not quite economical enough for me.

its a 750 drove about .........5 hours last week on 6 gal

They got a battery power motorcycle for sale charges for 5 cent & get ya about 120 miles on that charge Think its about 8000 dollars
footnote top speed 100 mph

lifegoesonbrah said:

I think the only way we are going to avoid the energy crisis is to embrace rising oil prices, which will promote alternatives.

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That seems to be the Obama plan. He has the same plan for electricity; his alternative seems to be "embrace the cold and darkness".

desert dude said:

I have been looking at the 2012 Civic GX. It uses compressed natural gas. The down side is it costs about $7000 more than a regular civic, not quite economical enough for me.

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There needs to be more hydrogen stations. The closest station to me is at the University of Riverside. Neat cars already exist, like the Honda FCX Clarity. Now we just need an infrastructure for it. Unlike CNG, compressed hydrogen is nearly limitless. Certain algae even resperate it.

Model: Yamaha XV 750 Virago
Year: 1993
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Displacement: 748.00 ccm (45.64 cubic inches)
Engine type: V2, four-stroke
Power: 55.00 HP (40.1 kW)) @ 7000 RPM
Torque: 58.84 Nm (6.0 kgf-m or 43.4 ft.lbs) @ 6000 RPM
Valves per cylinder: 2
Gearbox: 5-speed
Front brakes: Dual disc
Rear brakes: Expanding brake
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Seat height:724 mm (28.5 inches) If adjustable, lowest setting.
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Canna Sylvan said:

There needs to be more hydrogen stations. The closest station to me is at the University of Riverside. Neat cars already exist, like the Honda FCX Clarity. Now we just need an infrastructure for it. Unlike CNG, compressed hydrogen is nearly limitless. Certain algae even resperate it.

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Yeah, Hydrogen is cool stuff. It has significant problems though: infrastructure as you mentioned, plus it is the smallest molecule and is hard to contain, low energy density, and it ain't cheap. CNG already has significant infrastructure (most houses already have it piped in) and it is cheap, and getting cheaper.

with gas prices like they are my cadillac sits in the driveway while the yaris gets a ton of miles stacked on it. i get 42 mpg out of the little thing.

Oil Companies are extorting a inelastic product, something should be done. Whenever there is trouble in the middle east prices are raised without justification, and the public just accept it. US doesn't buy Iranian oil. Why are our prices going up? Do your research get an answer.

Source: http://www.eia.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

40% of US oil is domestically produced, from those numbers we can articulate that, Around 15% of oil production is from the middle east, which might put a strain on international trade in that area, furthermore the US stores around 21 billion barrels of oil in reserve. Meaning if the middle east was nuked, we could still survive for 28 years, without a change in oil importation and production. Strange how oil companis can even justify raising prices, no?

UncleBuck said:

makes sense that gas is going up.

how many MPG do you get on your ride?

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it might make sense that gas prices are going up, but what doesn't make sense is that the power that be's refuses to look into any technology that doesn't involve oil / gasonline..
don't even get me started on electric powered cars / trucks as that technology is even older than the combustion engine.. that's not gong forward but rather backwards imo..
i'm a car lover through and through, but it's such complete bs that the powers that be won't allow anyone to do any form of alternative powers.. look at how much other shit in the last 100 years has advanced, yet we are still driving around in cars powered by the combustion engine, complete horse shit imo.. the only reason why is too many people are making trillions of dollars off of oil / gasonline to change anything... they don't care that they're sucking us dry and the gas pump and killing the earth, why should they???

if we had a lot of nuclear power going It wouldnt cost so much to get Hydrogen from water Im also a big fan of it Had the 1979 Trans am would have been 5 times more powerful

lifegoesonbrah said:

I think the only way we are going to avoid the energy crisis is to embrace rising oil prices, which will promote alternatives.

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No we shouldn't its extortion, although I'm all for alternatives and have solar panels on my roof, and run a gas water heater (not sure if thats makes a huge difference). Although, it could also be explained by the growth of the asian economies, and their increasing demand for oil.

Ive got a solar panel but need many many more

Sinsay said:

Ive got a solar panel but need many many more

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Only one? Theres some energy companies that will sell them for half the price and install them free, and you can sell the excess energy back the the grid, catch is they take the profits from you selling the energy back until you pay the other half, then you make the profit of excess energy after.

jdillinger said:

No we shouldn't its extortion, although I'm all for alternatives and have solar panels on my roof, and run a gas water heater (not sure if thats makes a huge difference). Although, it could also be explained by the growth of the asian economies, and their increasing demand for oil.

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Im just saying we should let the market work properly. Whenever it is financially inefficient to buy oil, we will find alternatives.

We shouldn't:

Subsidize suppliers
increase gas taxes
Kill people in the Middle East to ensure supply

Let the market do its thang.


The shitty part is that lower income is most effected by energy prices but what can ya do.

lifegoesonbrah said:

Im just saying we should let the market work properly. Whenever it is financially inefficient to buy oil, we will find alternatives.

We shouldn't:

Subsidize suppliers
increase gas taxes
Kill people in the Middle East to ensure supply

Let the market do its thang.


The shitty part is that lower income is most effected by energy prices but what can ya do.

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I agree, Im just saying that the inflation in oil prices is unjustified. Gasoline used to cost 80c, ten years ago, per litre. Now its alot more, and theres no reason for it. Lollipops used to cost 30c now their 50c, from that natural inflation gas should only be less than $2. This is extortion, the new mafiosi is in the form of bankers, and the interests that serve them.

Awesome I`ll have to look into that ty