Gay marriage?

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Kaendar

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he's great for doing it. also running from statements and back stepping. this is the person who wants to be LAPD as well. he sounds perfect for the job if you ask me.
ignorant-check
arrogant-check
close-minded-check
should i go on??
See, this is the problem with homosexuals. If you dont agree with them, they insult you and play the pity card. Imagine if everyone acted how gays do... we would all kill eachother. You choose to live that lifestyle, unless somebody is trying to physically prevent you from doing what you want, respect ppls opinions the same way you want yours respected.. otherwise you look like a hypocrite.
 

Kaendar

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If a religious group wants to marry two individuals that is up to them or if they don't the same goes. I thought we have religious freedom and seperatio nof church and state, hows it the governments choice.
This is exactly why this isnt a religious issue. The government is involved because marriage is a legal thing, and gays want to change the definition of it, so that means changing laws. Obviously religions are involved because of moral and ethical issues, but the government is involved because of the legality of the issue.
 

Shannon Alexander

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The problem is that if a gay gets married, it basically takes away the meaning of all traditional marriages. Its not just a gay thing.. any type of non traditional marriage (marrying animals, objects, having multiple wives) undermines all traditional marriages.
I'm guessing that we have similar opinions on marriage being for creating a family unit etc...

But the main point of marriage in my eyes is a public declaration of your love to the other person and intent to spend your life with them...

To me people like britney spears and kim kardashian are the type of people that take away from the meaning of a marriage... and all the unfaithful spouses...
 

Kaendar

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I'm guessing that we have similar opinions on marriage being for creating a family unit etc...

But the main point of marriage in my eyes is a public declaration of your love to the other person and intent to spend your life with them...

People like britney spears and kim kardashian are the type of people that take away from the meaning of a marriage...
Yea, when you get down to it, one of the secular reasons for opposing gay marriage is the family dynamic (or lack of) that it creates. I mean, im not saying 2 gays cant raise a kid, and im glad that they adopt orphans and all that, but there has got to be some damage done to the child in the long run. If a young boy is raised by 2 gay men, thats gonna create a lot of unnecessary conflict and frustration in that child. In high school I knew a kid that had 2 gay dads.. he was insecure, very socially awkward, and had frequent outbursts in class. His name was Sean... I actually hung out with him a few times and he was a cool kid, but he had issues that even he admitted was from his family situation.
 

mysunnyboy

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See, this is the problem with homosexuals. If you dont agree with them, they insult you and play the pity card. Imagine if everyone acted how gays do... we would all kill eachother. You choose to live that lifestyle, unless somebody is trying to physically prevent you from doing what you want, respect ppls opinions the same way you want yours respected.. otherwise you look like a hypocrite.
why do you say this?
i am a happy person, i have NEVER been bothered or bullied IRL. not because i am gay or any other reason. my family has never made an issue of it so why does a complete stranger want to say i am WRONG? you already said i had a mental disorder (because you think thats what homosexuality is)
i would never play a pity card and haven't here.
i don't give a damn what you SAY it means nothing to me personally.
i don't want to get married and honestly who would?

and brother i totally respect your opinion and love how stupid it makes you look, so bring on more opinions please :eyesmoke:
 

Shannon Alexander

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I think the jury may still be out on the long term effects of same sex households on the raising of children...

It sucks for Sean that he didn't have the upbringing that he feels he deserved but people get "fucked up" by their families and upbringing in straight families all the time...
 

mysunnyboy

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Yea, when you get down to it, one of the secular reasons for opposing gay marriage is the family dynamic (or lack of) that it creates. I mean, im not saying 2 gays cant raise a kid, and im glad that they adopt orphans and all that, but there has got to be some damage done to the child in the long run. If a young boy is raised by 2 gay men, thats gonna create a lot of unnecessary conflict and frustration in that child. In high school I knew a kid that had 2 gay dads.. he was insecure, very socially awkward, and had frequent outbursts in class. His name was Sean... I actually hung out with him a few times and he was a cool kid, but he had issues that even he admitted was from his family situation.
is your name ARCHIE BUNKER by any chance?
 

kinetic

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Yea, when you get down to it, one of the secular reasons for opposing gay marriage is the family dynamic (or lack of) that it creates. I mean, im not saying 2 gays cant raise a kid, and im glad that they adopt orphans and all that, but there has got to be some damage done to the child in the long run. If a young boy is raised by 2 gay men, thats gonna create a lot of unnecessary conflict and frustration in that child. In high school I knew a kid that had 2 gay dads.. he was insecure, very socially awkward, and had frequent outbursts in class. His name was Sean... I actually hung out with him a few times and he was a cool kid, but he had issues that even he admitted was from his family situation.
I can feel that, but there are allot of kids that are insecure, socially awkward and have family issues from straight parents.

I've raised my hand to that one earlier in life....As long as there is genuine respectable Love in the household, people come to recognize that in due time and move forward from their parents perceived short comings.
 

patrickkawi37

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i dated a girl who had 2 moms. other then the fact that her moms hated me cause i have a dick.. no issues. strong willed chick, she loves the cock, no mental issues from what i can tell. some people are stronger than others you cant directly base them being fucked up on having 2 parents of the same sex. my parents fucking suck (mom and dad), and my childhood was a disaster, but i look past that and am able to better myself and be smarter than my parents by seeing how big of failures they are and where they failed. my sister on the other hand, is mentally fucked from my parents, she will never be the same. she is not as mentally strong as i am..
saying that someones childhood is fucked because they have 2 parents of the same sex is just plain ignorant. parents can suck either way if they dont put forth the effort. and can be mentally damaging with what they say doesnt matter what sex they are.
 

Kaendar

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I think the jury may still be out on the long term effects of same sex households on the raising of children...

It sucks for Sean that he didn't have the upbringing that he feels he deserved but people get "fucked up" by their families and upbringing in straight families all the time...
I mean, I could only imagine the mental conflict..
 

Kaendar

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I can feel that, but there are allot of kids that are insecure, socially awkward and have family issues from straight parents.

I've raised my hand to that one earlier in life....As long as there is genuine respectable Love in the household, people come to recognize that in due time and move forward from their parents perceived short comings.
True, but like I said it was directly related to his family life. I remember him telling me he just wished he had a normal family and that he hated going in public with his "dads". I could only imagine. I was nice to him cuz everybody else would bully him for the most part..
 

Kaendar

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i dated a girl who had 2 moms. other then the fact that her moms hated me cause i have a dick.. no issues. strong willed chick, she loves the cock, no mental issues from what i can tell. some people are stronger than others you cant directly base them being fucked up on having 2 parents of the same sex. my parents fucking suck (mom and dad), and my childhood was a disaster, but i look past that and am able to better myself and be smarter than my parents by seeing how big of failures they are and where they failed. my sister on the other hand, is mentally fucked from my parents, she will never be the same. she is not as mentally strong as i am..
saying that someones childhood is fucked because they have 2 parents of the same sex is just plain ignorant. parents can suck either way if they dont put forth the effort. and can be mentally damaging with what they say doesnt matter what sex they are.
I think its easier for a female to deal with situation... but for a young man in high school still discovering his manhood and maturity with 2 flamboyant and very effeminate "dads" its totally different.
 

kinetic

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True, but like I said it was directly related to his family life. I remember him telling me he just wished he had a normal family and that he hated going in public with his "dads". I could only imagine. I was nice to him cuz everybody else would bully him for the most part..
I hated being in public with my drunk mother, and wanted a normal life as well. Individual perspective of a common felling ya know....

it's a positive thing you were nice to him even if RIU says you're a cop...
 

Kaendar

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I hated being in public with my drunk mother, and wanted a normal life as well. Individual perspective of a common felling ya know....

it's a positive thing you were nice to him even if RIU says you're a cop...
Lol... im not a cop.. I once said I was thinking about applying for the LAPD one time to see what happens and ppl ran with that shit. The mods reprimanded them for the most part, but theres a few overly paranoid assholes that still try to perpetuate that message.
 
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