George Zimmerman in jail AGAIN

see4

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I thought Arizona was a completely compliant second amendment state, i.e. no permit required at all? Has that changed?

"Today is the day gun-rights advocates have had in their sights for a long time. Starting today, Arizona residents at least 21 years old can carry a concealed weapon without a permit.

The change is part of a broad weapons law by state Sen. Russell Pearce passed by the state Legislature in April that eases restrictions on concealed carry and stiffens penalties for committing a crime while carrying a concealed weapon."

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/20100729arizona-concealed-weapons-law.html
You are correct. In AZ I do not have to have a permit to carry concealed. I chose to get my CCW for other reasons here. Like being able to go buy a gun with no wait and no need for the store to call in to the Feds. I also did it because if I were to ever get pulled over while I am conceal carrying I simply show the LEO my CCW and license and I put their mind at ease that I am not a criminal, which in 9 times out of 10, they will not have to handcuff me for a simple speeding ticket. Without such CCW card, you can be sure they will cuff you and do a background check on you, even for a simple speeding ticket.
 

desert dude

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My Arizona license address is located in the middle of state park. Oops. Did I say too much?
How does a sock puppet squeeze a trigger? Where does a sock puppet carry a wallet with his CCW in a state that does not require CCWs? The mysteries deepen.
 

desert dude

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You are correct. In AZ I do not have to have a permit to carry concealed. I chose to get my CCW for other reasons here. Like being able to go buy a gun with no wait and no need for the store to call in to the Feds. I also did it because if I were to ever get pulled over while I am conceal carrying I simply show the LEO my CCW and license and I put their mind at ease that I am not a criminal, which in 9 times out of 10, they will not have to handcuff me for a simple speeding ticket. Without such CCW card, you can be sure they will cuff you and do a background check on you, even for a simple speeding ticket.
OK. Sounds reasonable. Maybe.
 

UncleBuck

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No, explain where the "invocation of race" was? You're so great at making claims but not so great at backing them up. please continue;
mayybe you should consult with david duke and philippe rushton to see about it, make sure your stories lynch up.
 

see4

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But no CCW that allows you to carry on Amtrac unless it's in a check in locked bag, correct?
That is a good question. I would need to review the corporate rules of Amtrak. That day, the conductor took it upon himself to decide the matter was a non-issue. I may be not as lucky another day.

That is certainly correct for airlines. All of them. I would need to have the weapon checked-in by TSA, locked and stowed in the luggage compartment for it to fly with me.
 

see4

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i'm getting confused... See4 mentioned an arziona CCW permit, now this link says they allow CCW without permit
desert is correct, technically AZ is a free state. You do not have to have a CCW to conceal carry. However obtaining one for other reasons is just as justifiable. As I mentioned in my earlier comment.
 

see4

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How does a sock puppet squeeze a trigger? Where does a sock puppet carry a wallet with his CCW in a state that does not require CCWs? The mysteries deepen.
Are you serious? Dude. Are you trying to pick a fight? You will lose this one. So stop.
 

echelon1k1

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mayybe you should consult with david duke and philippe rushton to see about it, make sure your stories lynch up.
You ask them for me... You seem to have a direct line to them with your various memberships at white supremacy sites. While you're at it ask them if "KFC equals racial resentment" as you haven't been able to explain that one or provide evidence Al-Awlaki Jr. was a "terrorist" as you claim.

Don't forget to tell them the census data for San Jose is wrong too...
 

echelon1k1

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desert is correct, technically AZ is a free state. You do not have to have a CCW to conceal carry. However obtaining one for other reasons is just as justifiable. As I mentioned in my earlier comment.
Got it, honestly though, have you ever told an officer you're carrying and he hasn't immediately restrained you and relived you of your weapon until your details are confirmed?
 

see4

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Yeah, that is kind of my point. I think See4 is fibbing again, as much as sock puppets can fib.
You jump to conclusions too quickly. You don't hear the entire story, or refuse to listen. You seem to want to pick a fight. A fight you will not win. So as I said earlier. Stop. You only make yourself look like an internet troll looking to pick fights.
 

see4

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Got it, honestly though, have you ever told an officer your carrying and he hasn't immediately restrained you and relived you of your weapon until your details are confirmed?
Actually. I have. Two months ago I was in the HOV lane on 101 north bound, and I was going a little fast, a motorcycle cop pulled me over. He noticed my Noveske sticker on the back of my truck. The first thing he asked when he approached my window was, "Do you have any weapons in your vehicle or on your person?", I said yes, and immediately showed him my conceal carry id and my drivers license. He asked for me to take out my gun and hand it to him. I did. He looked at it, cleared the gun, handed it back and told me to slow down, tapped my car door and said have a nice day.
 

UncleBuck

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Actually. I have. Two months ago I was in the HOV lane on 101 north bound, and I was going a little fast, a motorcycle cop pulled me over. He noticed my Noveske sticker on the back of my truck. The first thing he asked when he approached my window was, "Do you have any weapons in your vehicle or on your person?", I said yes, and immediately showed him my conceal carry id and my drivers license. He asked for me to take out my gun and hand it to him. I did. He looked at it, cleared the gun, handed it back and told me to slow down, tapped my car door and said have a nice day.
that's nicer than they've ever been to anyone on the 101. they live on the 101 waiting for you to go 77.
 

echelon1k1

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Actually. I have. Two months ago I was in the HOV lane on 101 north bound, and I was going a little fast, a motorcycle cop pulled me over. He noticed my Noveske sticker on the back of my truck. The first thing he asked when he approached my window was, "Do you have any weapons in your vehicle or on your person?", I said yes, and immediately showed him my conceal carry id and my drivers license. He asked for me to take out my gun and hand it to him. I did. He looked at it, cleared the gun, handed it back and told me to slow down, tapped my car door and said have a nice day.

you mean you were respectful and courteous to an officer and he responded in kind? I love hearing those stories because not all cops are pricks - it's just a job and TBH a shitty one - I would not like to spend the day as a beat or traffic cop and put up with the crap they have to.
 

see4

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you mean you were respectful and courteous to an officer and he responded in kind? I love hearing those stories because not all cops are pricks - it's just a job and TBH a shitty one - I would not like to spend the day as a beat or traffic cop and put up with the crap they have to.
Most aren't. Most are just doing their job. I have found, as long as you are respectful and reasonable, they will return the favor. I have run into a few young cops who are on the force to get back at those who picked on them in life. Those guys are hard to deal with.

I was pulled over after having just passed a 18 wheeler, I was doing about 80 in a 65, but I was slowing down [after having JUST passed the truck]. He pulled me over, and I was polite, stating that I was passing the truck because it was kicking out rocks, one of which hit my windshield. He yelled at me saying he didn't want to hear my excuses, and proceeded to tell me I was lucky he wasn't throwing me in jail for endangering others. Prick. It was 6am on a fucking Saturday on the I-90, a 4 land highway, with about 4 cars on the road at the time. But in the end, I was still polite.
 

see4

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that's nicer than they've ever been to anyone on the 101. they live on the 101 waiting for you to go 77.
The motorcycle cops are the worst. Those pricks sneak up on your ass. And they will cut over all 3 lanes to get you. They don't give a fuck!
 
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