Der Panzer
Well-Known Member
I just requested my records from my GP regarding my back pain and arthritis. Finally decided the NSAID's and Vicodin were doing more harm than good and MJ will work much better for my needs.
I've been doing tons of reading lately (great info here on RIU, can't wait to join in more discussions and maybe start helping as i learn) regarding the medical laws here in CA, and there is one thing that is bugging me.
What's bugging me are the 'baseline' max amounts for growing (as I understand it they are suggested, not hard law, but basically if you don't exceed this you won't get into trouble levels) --- 6 flowering *OR* ('or' not 'and' is the part i'm having a problem with) 12 vegging. Now, that seemed a lot to me at first - until I started reading the grow forums. With mother plant requirements, clones in process (of which many will get discarded), those vegging and those flowering, it basically makes it impossible to effectively grow medical strains -- most patients probably need a couple different strains based on their requirements (such as sativa for day and indica for night).
I mean, say the average patient (without much grow experience or space) gets 6 seeds going, and takes these to flower -- hypothetically a 90-day process seed to cure. Assuming none die from rookie mistakes, and a rookie yield of 1/2oz per plant, that's only a maximum of 3oz yield to cover a 90 period (HAVE TO START FROM SEED AGAIN! -- NO CLONES WERE TAKEN AS TO NOT VIOLATE THE 6 PLANT LAW).
Basically, the 6 flowering OR 12 vegging seems extremely idiotic, frankly. I could understand 6 flowering AND 12 vegging. But it doesn't seem effective to allow 6 in flowering with no others available for vegging. Heck, even 6 flowering and 6 vegging would be practical. And let's say i'm doing the '12 vegging' instead - what is the benefit of that if only 6 can go to flower - just toss the bad phenomes?
Sorry for the rambling, I guess my general point is - how easy is it to get approval from the doctors to recommend a higher amount of plants, above recommended limit (specifically Orange County). I think for me to supply myself properly, i would need 2-4 mothers, 6-12 in vegetative and 6-12 in flowering. If I outlined my case for higher requirements logically should most MM doctors be accepting of my case? Are some more lenient than others?
Basically I'd like to ensure myself a steady supply of sativa and indica (pref. 2 of each) so i have variety based on situations, mood and pain levels. I'd also like to help support a local co-op and join in trading clones, crosses, and donating to those that don't have the ability to grow. I can't do any of this with the "6 flowering OR 12 vegging" stipulation.
Any insight is appreciated!
I've been doing tons of reading lately (great info here on RIU, can't wait to join in more discussions and maybe start helping as i learn) regarding the medical laws here in CA, and there is one thing that is bugging me.
What's bugging me are the 'baseline' max amounts for growing (as I understand it they are suggested, not hard law, but basically if you don't exceed this you won't get into trouble levels) --- 6 flowering *OR* ('or' not 'and' is the part i'm having a problem with) 12 vegging. Now, that seemed a lot to me at first - until I started reading the grow forums. With mother plant requirements, clones in process (of which many will get discarded), those vegging and those flowering, it basically makes it impossible to effectively grow medical strains -- most patients probably need a couple different strains based on their requirements (such as sativa for day and indica for night).
I mean, say the average patient (without much grow experience or space) gets 6 seeds going, and takes these to flower -- hypothetically a 90-day process seed to cure. Assuming none die from rookie mistakes, and a rookie yield of 1/2oz per plant, that's only a maximum of 3oz yield to cover a 90 period (HAVE TO START FROM SEED AGAIN! -- NO CLONES WERE TAKEN AS TO NOT VIOLATE THE 6 PLANT LAW).
Basically, the 6 flowering OR 12 vegging seems extremely idiotic, frankly. I could understand 6 flowering AND 12 vegging. But it doesn't seem effective to allow 6 in flowering with no others available for vegging. Heck, even 6 flowering and 6 vegging would be practical. And let's say i'm doing the '12 vegging' instead - what is the benefit of that if only 6 can go to flower - just toss the bad phenomes?
Sorry for the rambling, I guess my general point is - how easy is it to get approval from the doctors to recommend a higher amount of plants, above recommended limit (specifically Orange County). I think for me to supply myself properly, i would need 2-4 mothers, 6-12 in vegetative and 6-12 in flowering. If I outlined my case for higher requirements logically should most MM doctors be accepting of my case? Are some more lenient than others?
Basically I'd like to ensure myself a steady supply of sativa and indica (pref. 2 of each) so i have variety based on situations, mood and pain levels. I'd also like to help support a local co-op and join in trading clones, crosses, and donating to those that don't have the ability to grow. I can't do any of this with the "6 flowering OR 12 vegging" stipulation.
Any insight is appreciated!