941mick
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I'm right there with you. I can get rid of the shit wet for top dollar. Hence why I have done six crops of it. I just smh every time aquiring parties get so excited about it.
GG#4 Is Overated
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captainmorgan
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Different strokes for different folks and what people like varies widely but to act like it's average is just over the top. If you don't care for the high or flavor is one thing but to me it's a special strain. Stable as a rock,easy to grow,light feeder and huge yielder,what's not to like. It's not my favorite smoke right now but was for some time. Not sure why yours doesn't yield much but mine is a very big yielder.
NurseNancy420
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Trolls...little stinky fuckers who live under bridges
GG#4 bumped up more growers games in Michigan than any other one thing in the last few years.
Not your cup of Tea? Why piss in someone else's? Make u feel like a Big Boy?
GG#4 bumped up more growers games in Michigan than any other one thing in the last few years.
Not your cup of Tea? Why piss in someone else's? Make u feel like a Big Boy?
941mick
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I said it was exceptional.
HGK420
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Why ya hating on lower peninsula folks... Jk.. Lotsa trolls under the Mac..
I hear there's less mouths to feed north of the bridge tho and a fella finds himself having to come feed the trolls to make a living.. Seedpac find this to be true?
941mick
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Your 100% right. A good cut getting into a vast majority of people's hands is an awesome thing and the breeder deserves all the credit in the world for making that effort.
Darth Vapour
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GG4 is like any other strain. it becomes a HOT ITEM until the novelty wears out .
There are allots of better strains on the market, that has been worked to produce better quality . Higher THC and medical properties
Although GG4 was a mistake or accident the out come turned out for the good
One of the most important things to remember is , A good strain should also be in reg seed form not just clone or fem only
Clone only strains after time will infact de grade mutations and other diseases can set it
Most people that are right into GG4 like mentioned up top is it upped there game in the yield department. its not necesarilly better like i said then OG's or Hybrid Sativa leaning hazes etc that would kill it in the yield department as well
But truthfully speaking its what ever cup winning strain that is sought after and the old school strains
i would personally take a solid reg seed form strain like haze, or thai or even good pakistani line F2 which you can guarntee will constantly produce better off spring then her self.
There are allots of better strains on the market, that has been worked to produce better quality . Higher THC and medical properties
Although GG4 was a mistake or accident the out come turned out for the good
One of the most important things to remember is , A good strain should also be in reg seed form not just clone or fem only
Clone only strains after time will infact de grade mutations and other diseases can set it
Most people that are right into GG4 like mentioned up top is it upped there game in the yield department. its not necesarilly better like i said then OG's or Hybrid Sativa leaning hazes etc that would kill it in the yield department as well
But truthfully speaking its what ever cup winning strain that is sought after and the old school strains
i would personally take a solid reg seed form strain like haze, or thai or even good pakistani line F2 which you can guarntee will constantly produce better off spring then her self.
Yodaweed
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This is my 3rd grow with it and I am done with it, haven't been impressed since day one. Yields are good, smells are like a diesel that is flat, and frostiness isn't the only trait I go for, I have way better strains in my garden this one is just taking up room. I said the same thing on another forum and got RAGED out by the breeder and all his kronies. Wayyyyy overhyped, theres strains with way less hype that are so so much better than this.
Grojak
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Quit smoking for a week than try any strain…. I'm stuck in a rut where no weed seems to WOW me anymore.. well almost no weed, no high seems to wow me some strains still wow me with taste, smell, looks but I don't know when the last time I went WOW what a high…
Grojak
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Never smoke a sativa? My 25% thc GTH is a work day buzz..
Grojak
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Bubba, GSC than GG4 that pretty much sums up the last 3 years… I never sought these out… GSC fell into my lap (lwas trading clones with someone and he's like oh hey heres an extra GSC I had) like a year after the hype.. and GG4 is actually heading my way in a swap for the GSC lol (same guy I got the GSC from). I figure I'll give it a run see if it makes the rotation. GSC stayed cuz the wife fell in love with it.
But my lineup is not modern… I have an old stock Sensi Star indica cut, pre99 DJS Blueberry indica, a whole line I've bred using Serious Seeds Bubblegum, ATF, Cheese, Bros Grim's Apollo 11 genius cut… a few more modern strains too
Grojak
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Where is your evidence to support this claim? If you find the best cut ever in F1 form use a male F1 to pollenate it, in theory only 25% of the F2 plants will resemble the F1 mother, that is unless you're already working with a strain that has been worked to a F5 state by taking F2 dad to F1 mom F3 dad to F1 mom act… F2 generations are going to have a lot of variation as will F1 of course, thats why you can't call most "breeders" breeders, they just chuck pollen and give it some fancy name like Vortex or what not. Go see what DJS does with his strains, see how long they take to create or Serious Seeds, real breeders.
VTMi'kmaq
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SENSI STAR INDICA!
ive dreamt about her, ive heard rumors...........id lick her stem to stern lol!
Grojak
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SPLFreak808
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Ive never came across a gg4 clone but the gg4 smoke i have tried smelled pretty citrus like in a good way, i didnt like the high, i had to finish off my high with cherry pie. I think im just an indica feen for that body melt. My friends like the gg4 though, if they smoke like me, goodnight lol
SPLFreak808
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Death star og is a winner in my book! Sensi's cousin i think
Grojak
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Sour D x Sensi Star… long sought that cut
Darth Vapour
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You will find more variety from a f2 line compared to F1 this means male or female from F2 can, and usually is a elite
An F1 seed variety is created by breeding together two pure strains. For example, a tall plant (represented with two dominant genes, AA) is bred with a small plant (represented by the two small recessive genes, aa). Since the resulting plants will each receive one gene from each parent, this will result in offspring with the following genetic make-up: Aa. All four offspring will have the same make-up and therefore, will each be tall plants. The difference from the parent generation in this case is that these will not be pure strains due to the presence of the recessive (short) gene.
To create what is known as an F2 strain, the grower will breed two members of the F1 family together. The 'children' that result from this breeding will have the genetic make-up of: AA, Aa, AA, and aa. This is illustrated in the table below
This means that the F2 seed strain will have three tall plants and one short plant. So, the main difference between the F1 and F2 varieties is the amount of genetic variation and purity of the seed strain.
this is where the breeder will sort out what he wants to move forwards with such a variation breeders like stank bro and other top end breeders spend years going through generations looking for that special one the comes out
https://books.google.ca/books?id=SHT1BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=why+do+you+get+more+variation+from+F2+strains+then+F1&source=bl&ots=yV8YwYgopH&sig=8yl7I_XIJ_iUZc-88EUMOaQHXtQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBmoVChMI3rLIndvyyAIVDjOICh1SmAKu#v=onepage&q=why do you get more variation from F2 strains then F1&f=false
Grojak
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OK so you supported my statement, thanks
You just disproved yourself lol You stated and I quote " F2 which you can guarntee will constantly produce better off spring then her self". Than posted as evidence that the F2 will have more variety (different phenos… which is true and is what I had stated). More variety does not equate to consistently better plants (whatever you determine "better" to mean) You take plants to F2 stage so that you can start to see certain traits come out, F2 is not suitable for calling a strain a breed (unless somehow you got lucky but this is not common) You start with the F2 to try to create the bread to narrow down the number of phenos… but even at F5 stage a rare pheno can pop out (like a sativa pheno of Blueberry)…
Huel Perkins
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Sour D x SensiStar is that cross that made Deathstar, no OG... With that said, GG4 crushes Deathstar in every category in my opinion.
GG4 is the great strain, not sure why so many of you don't like it. In my opinion it's well above average is every category, not many strains can pull that off...