giving defoliation during flower a try
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pk_boosted2
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U guys stop actin like u know shit that u obviously know nothing about. I got break shit down to u bcuz u all love to argue instead of listening.
I find it funny u master growers dont know how an environment plays a role in phenotype expression of cannabis plants. But u know everything about nutrients lmao
U dont even know the difference between a genotype and a phenotype and u wanna argue w me and tell me im the stupid one? Yah ok lol
I find it funny u master growers dont know how an environment plays a role in phenotype expression of cannabis plants. But u know everything about nutrients lmao
U dont even know the difference between a genotype and a phenotype and u wanna argue w me and tell me im the stupid one? Yah ok lol
a senile fungus
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Are you literally retarded?
pk_boosted2
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Yes are you?
a senile fungus
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Its just that you spew the same shit day after day, you have an elementary understanding at best of things as a whole, and you somehow believe that you are something special...
I'm just trying to understand you.
WHODAT@THADOR
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I knew you were fucking related to Finshaggy!! What Phenotype are you?? I have a basement bro!!
pk_boosted2
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This is actually a new topic just started yesterday so how am i spewing same shit? Plz help me understand. Im responding to the person who trying to tell me im a liar saying genetics cant change, because they dont even understand the term genetics apparently.
Its not genetics its genotypes and phenotypes, and the impact environment has on the end product. I answered the question, yes as he is looking at it "genetics" change, lol. NO, phenotypes are the end result of environmental impacts of genotypes resulting in phenotype expression or physical characteristics.
No matter what strain or cuts u have we can both go purchase the same clones and have different results because of environment. So the way he is understanding the concept the answer is YES they have been changed because he dont understand the terminology so i broke it down. Thanks
Not hard to understand. And yes im retarded my mom used to tell me i was special
Its not genetics its genotypes and phenotypes, and the impact environment has on the end product. I answered the question, yes as he is looking at it "genetics" change, lol. NO, phenotypes are the end result of environmental impacts of genotypes resulting in phenotype expression or physical characteristics.
No matter what strain or cuts u have we can both go purchase the same clones and have different results because of environment. So the way he is understanding the concept the answer is YES they have been changed because he dont understand the terminology so i broke it down. Thanks
Not hard to understand. And yes im retarded my mom used to tell me i was special
a senile fungus
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He's the hard_mode pheno, can't stop won't stop.
pk_boosted2
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Im an advanced phenotype of your Dad.
WHODAT@THADOR
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So your a Old finshaggy model!! Thats so fucking cool bro look I got a waterbed and some frito's man...And I promise to feed you taco bell everynight.....Do you have a sister maybe?? I like older chicks
RM3
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PK, I am fully aware of how the environment affects genetic expression, how do you think I was able to bring out the early amber gene in several strains. I spent years adjusting things to find it. But I also know that our guberment is now profiling MJ genetics and if you take a sample of a strain grown in different mediums or even different states they will identify what strain it is with a simple DNA test. The genetics don't change, they simply express differently by adapting to their environment. I've been growing longer than you've been alive I'm willing to bet and you assume I've not learned a few things in those years.
Environmental expression does not alter DNA make up, a Durban Poison will always be a Durban poison.
pk_boosted2
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Yes if u run a DNA test. Noone buying a bag of weed is running a dna test. My point is that when u remove original land races from their environment the end product isnt gonna look or smell or be anything like it originally was where it was nautrally bred. Ur gonna get hints of the original genotype leaving u with the phenotype.
The same thing with all strains. Noone garden is gonna produce the same flowers using the same strain because environment is all different. They might b similar but not the same as someone elses. All we can do is develop and environment suitable for particular strains to get their best qualities and bring out original genotype as u said u have done. U are answering my point exactly. It takes a lonnnng time to dial in a strain specifically land races to express the qualities they once exhibited in their natural origins. Thank you
pk_boosted2
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I never once said anything about rna or dna being altered i said the genotype is never fully expressed when u remove a land race from its origins u are left w a phenotype which is whatever the environment brough out of that genome. It will never be identical to the real shit period
Sativied
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I think pk_boosted may actually be related to Darwin himself... 
Although severe inbreeding depression in humans seems to be highly uncommon and not widely known, there have been several cases of apparent forms of inbreeding depression in human populations. Charles Darwin, through numerous experiments, was one of the first scientists to demonstrate the effects of inbreeding depression. Charles's wife, Emma was his first cousin. He attempted to study the theory of inbreeding within his own children. Of the ten Darwin children, three died before the age of ten. Of the rest, three had child-less long-term marriages. As with animals, this phenomenon tends to occur in isolated, rural populations that are cut off to some degree from other areas of civilization.
A study has provided the evidence for inbreeding depression on cognitive abilities among children, with high frequency of mental retardation among offspring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding_depression#In_humans
Although severe inbreeding depression in humans seems to be highly uncommon and not widely known, there have been several cases of apparent forms of inbreeding depression in human populations. Charles Darwin, through numerous experiments, was one of the first scientists to demonstrate the effects of inbreeding depression. Charles's wife, Emma was his first cousin. He attempted to study the theory of inbreeding within his own children. Of the ten Darwin children, three died before the age of ten. Of the rest, three had child-less long-term marriages. As with animals, this phenomenon tends to occur in isolated, rural populations that are cut off to some degree from other areas of civilization.
A study has provided the evidence for inbreeding depression on cognitive abilities among children, with high frequency of mental retardation among offspring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding_depression#In_humans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runt
WHODAT@THADOR
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No you will get several phenotypes of your landrace and of the hundred's and hundred's of seed's at least one will be very close if not spot on to mamma
pk_boosted2
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Its for the same reason that seeds from the same parents will produce 20 different phenos. The same reason your parents and my parents had kids and we all look different but have similar attributes. Exactly
pk_boosted2
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Im on here learning and providing knowledge some these dudes just talk shit and wanna argue that aint what im about. But i also aint gonna b pushed around by some chump either especially chuck whose a fuckin tool and knows dick anout cultivation period. I got respect for dudes who give respect and got no problem having great convos about growing and techniques etc im all about it, but i can do without this petty bs for real mad childish and waste of fuckin time. But with that said i can be the biggest dickhead in the world if someone wnana push me there which is where everyone seems to wanna go instead of focusin on lesrning and becoming better at what we do and thats what im about.
Dont matter how long anyone been doing anything, someone taught bruce lee how to fight and michael jordan how to play basketball and they were better than their teachers. Experience isnt measured by time its measured by knowledge, practice and reasoning.
Dont matter how long anyone been doing anything, someone taught bruce lee how to fight and michael jordan how to play basketball and they were better than their teachers. Experience isnt measured by time its measured by knowledge, practice and reasoning.
tytheguy111
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fuck off you goddamn idiot either give advice that will help people or get the fuck off this forum
im so sick of fucks like you not knowing a goddamn word about what there saying but still give advice
and while your learning shit yourself you can get a fucking dictionary too while your at it
1ex·pe·ri·ence
noun
: the process of doing and seeing things and of having things happen to you
: the length of time that you have spent doing something (such as a particular job)
RM3
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I'm not here to argue with you, but I can document that my CTF strain is now growing and being harvested around the world and that those growers are sharing pics that all look the same. They are even commenting on how tight my gear is with statements like hell your pic looks just the one I'm growing. They are all reporting the same smells and the same high and they are in different states and countries and use different lights, different nutes, different mediums and different styles and yeppers some of them are members here, so it would be easy for me to back up what I just stated. At some point in your life you will learn that you are not always right, we all do, tis a fact of life.
