Glenn Beck Hates Education

fitch303 said:

Public education in the US is a fucking joke, we spend more than any other country yet the results are mediocre at best. I guess your OK with mediocrity though. Besides the American Public probably can't get anymore "ignorant" then they currently are. If something does not work you look at alternatives, private or home schooling is an alternative.

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Dude, you're 100% correct. Biiiig fuckin' joke. But did you get a load of what Beck's solution is, and by proxy, people who support him like ViRedd and Max's solution is?



I'll favor a public education 100 out of 100 times over that retarded bullshit they would teach and try to pass off as an "education".

Padawanbater2 said:

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Wow, I don't know where Becks last few brain cells went..

"Washington was home schooled, Jefferson was home schooled..."

:facepalm:!

This clip just illustrates a bigger point that needs to be made;

The people who oppose the public education, the ones who bitch and moan about how "liberalism" is taking over all the universities are simply opposed to views that are being taught that completely contradict their own personal world view, and they know that by teaching kids true information, like we did NOT walk with dinosaurs and that the planet is older than the Bible says it is, kids will be able to determine for themselves all these stories that breed bigotry and intolerance are not the truth, and they'll be put on the shelf right next to the Iliad.

Look what they've stooped to, the last ditch effort - lie about public education and tell people they should teach their own ignorant views to their kids so they too become just as ignorant. (kinda like religion does... funny)

Fuck Glenn Beck.

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Padawanbater2 said:

Dude, you're 100% correct. Biiiig fuckin' joke. But did you get a load of what Beck's solution is, and by proxy, people who support him like ViRedd and Max's solution is?



I'll favor a public education 100 out of 100 times over that retarded bullshit they would teach and try to pass off as an "education".

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See what I mean man, this entire post is a personal attack. I think someone has an e-crush!!

RickWhite said:

Padawan holds a pathological hatred of traditional religion. His attacks on religion are equally as vicious as anything I have heard come from white supremacists with regard to Blacks and Jews. Yes, it is that bad.

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lol, me and my crazy ass! Advocating things like peace, tolerance, and equal rights.. Sure sounds fanatical to me!

And just as those White Supremacists are sure their ideas are correct, so too is Padawan with his hatred of religion.

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Padawan is also an ardent supporter of progressive indoctrination. He believes that his views are the only true ones just as surly as any religious person believes their's are. Padawan is in fact a religious extremist and fanatic - his faith is Liberalism.

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His views are as dangerous as any we have seen, precisely because he, much like the Muslim radicals, wishes to use the power of government to force his views upon other people's children.

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Not only does he want to use government backed indoctrination, but he wants to actively prevent others from teaching their faith to their own children. He even suggests that doing so is tantamount to child abuse and would have no problem using force to legally prohibit other people's ides.

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LMFAO! "government backed indoctrination"!!! HAHAHAHA! OMG WE GOTTA STOP TEH LIBERALZ!!

It's child abuse to tell a kid that if they don't be good they'll burn for eternity in Hell. Yes Rick, that is child abuse. If you've ever told a kid that, you should be held accountable because it damages a young childs mind. They can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, and like I said before, all it takes is a glance at what this kind of "education" produces to come to the realization these people are fucked up mentally, and in a lot of cases, a danger to themselves or somebody else. And like always, I have to add the caveat that of course I'm talking about the very small percentage of fundies who commit dangerous acts, not the entire population of believers, otherwise your retarded self will point out how teh athiests always pick on the poor religious people...

What makes Padawan's ideas far more dangerous than those of most faiths, is that most faiths, save for Islam, teach that other people have a right to their opinion even when wrong. See, Padawan labels all ideas that differ from his as being "dangerous" and therefore things that should not be tolerated. His ideas, in his mind are the only ones that should be allowed.

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I propose that if any ideas are truly dangerous, it is those expressed by him.

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OK Rick Beck, settle down...

doc111 said:

I cannot figure out why the left is so afraid of this guy. He's a commentator, a pundit. I can't stand Chris Matthews but I am not threatened by the guy.

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Padawanbater2 said:

See what I mean man, this entire post is a personal attack. I think someone has an e-crush!!

Because I responded to a ridiculous post about Glenn Beck???

lol, me and my crazy ass! Advocating things like peace, tolerance, and equal rights.. Sure sounds fanatical to me!



Organized religion.



"Progressive indoctrination" - ya know, things like evolution, or the big bang theory, or plate tectonics, or Thomas Jefferson, or Waco, or the OK City bombing... Those crazy left wing liberal ideas!

And you don't know what faith means.



ROFL! I've never advocated that, not even once.

Liar!

And aren't you the one who supports the drug war?

No

I don't force my opinions on anyone, I speak or write and people tend to agree with me. Explain the rep my previous name had or this one has compared to yours. You can't. It's like everything you say is a contradiction.



LMFAO! "government backed indoctrination"!!! HAHAHAHA! OMG WE GOTTA STOP TEH LIBERALZ!!

It's child abuse to tell a kid that if they don't be good they'll burn for eternity in Hell. Yes Rick, that is child abuse.

Absolutely not. While I do not agree with the whole sin and damnation thing, not teaching your child the basic premise is child abuse.

Not teaching your children that there are consequences to their actions and that people make their own bed in life according to their choices is child abuse. Also, FYI in Judaism children are taught to do what is right because it is right and not for fear of punishment or promise of reward.

Plus, when people see some rotten bastard who seems to always prosper, while they live good lives and never have anything good happen to them, it helps people to believe that justice will be done in the long run. I do not believe this is a bad thing. Quite the contrary, I think it is quite good.

If you've ever told a kid that, you should be held accountable because it damages a young childs mind. They can't tell the difference between reality and fiction, and like I said before, all it takes is a glance at what this kind of "education" produces to come to the realization these people are fucked up mentally, and in a lot of cases, a danger to themselves or somebody else. And like always, I have to add the caveat that of course I'm talking about the very small percentage of fundies who commit dangerous acts, not the entire population of believers, otherwise your retarded self will point out how teh athiests always pick on the poor religious people...

If you are talking about a small percentage of fundamentalists, you should have said that long ago. Few would disagree with the fact that such people exist.

And just to be clear, what I advocate is that we develop a population of EDUCATED PEOPLE that realize this, which would eliminate the problem all together, but I bet you can find a way to disagree with me there!

Educated people huh, and what text would you use to teach people how to live good and righteous lives? Has it occurred to you that most people prefer to teach these things themselves? Ah, but that is irrelevant to you. Unless they are going to teach your values, the way you would like them taught, you think this roll should be taken from them and managed in the public schools.

Do you really think the moral development of a child is the responsibility of the public school system? Do you really want the GOVERNMENT to be the arbiter of our children's values? Are you familiar with the Hitler Youth by any chance?

And how pray tell do you propose we "educate" the half of the population that is below average intelligence on complex, abstract moral concepts? And again, what textbook do we use? Are you planning on writing it?



Says the guy who believes the OLD TESTAMENT is morally correct. lol, I don't think we'll be listening to advice from you regarding what's right and wrong...

Can you give specific examples of immorality in the OT?

Also, we've been over this, they're not my idea's, they're ideas I support that have been proposed by others.

People have every right to their opinion, but they don't have a right to make their imaginary friends words into laws.


Islamic countries are full theocracies.


OK Rick Beck, settle down...



The reason people get so pissed off at Beck and people like him on the right is because their base, the followers, people who attend the TEA party meetings, are borderline fanatics. They're the reason the country is so divided on so many different issues ensuring distractions are everywhere you turn and nobody talks about anything else or figures out any real solutions. Dude, just look at this thread;

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/324237-there-going-final-word-barrys.html

How can you tell me this retarded shit is not a problem? They're nothing more than propaganda pushers for our elected officials. Not just the idiots on the right, all of them, they all do it. It's just that the base of the left wing media is less taken in by these kinds of tactics, so they use other tactics on them, cater to their sense of compassion and urgency. They all know exactly what works, they've been using it for decades.

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RickWhite said:

Can you give specific examples of immorality in the OT?

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ginjawarrior said:

how abouts parts like Deuteronomy chapter 13?

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RickWhite said:

I am far from a Rabbi but my understanding is that the commandments to kill people in the OT are not literal, but figurative. They are designed to demonstrate how severe a given act is. In this case they are talking about idolatry. Interestingly, the Bible is also filled with examples of the Israelites disobeying these orders and even arguing with God with regard to them. Perhaps, that is where much of the message lies.

Also, you have to understand that back when that stuff was written, people died all the time. Death was far more ordinary than it is today so such a sentence wouldn't really be shocking to a person back then.

These are questions one would need to ask someone more knowledgeable than me. But, you can't just read them and make assumptions. Do you see anyone murdering idol worshipers?

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