Global Commission on Drug Policy... Calling for "Immediate Decriminalisation "

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And so it begins ...

Several high profile figures have signed an open letter urging Prime Minister David Cameron to consider decriminalising drugs.

Dame Judi Dench and Sting were among more than 30 signatories.

It comes as a report by the Global Commission on Drug Policy, whose members include Sir Richard Branson, urged legalisation of some drugs and an end to the criminalisation of users.

The Home Office said it had "no intention" of liberalising drugs laws.

The open letter, which was also signed by former defence secretary Bob Ainsworth, actor Kathy Burke and three former police chiefs, called for the "immediate decriminalisation of drug possession" if a policy review shows it has failed.

Oscar-winning actress Dame Judi urged Mr Cameron to carry out "a swift and transparent review of the effectiveness of current drug policies".

And Sting added: "Giving young people criminal records for minor drug possession serves little purpose - it is time to think of more imaginative ways of addressing drug use in our society."

More on the story here >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13625241
 
Nitro1990

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the uk drug laws will not change no matter how many signatures they get you could have the whole population of Britain saying legalize it and they wont Mr Cameron is totally Anti-Drug we need labour back in if we want a drug reform as they wanted to semi legalize cannabis before Gordon brownie resigned as prime rib roast minister

i think they should legalize it and then control supply from them drug dealers and criminals to a goverment produced product with no harmful chemicals and toxins in the weed so then it will be safe
 
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hellraizer30 said:
I would love for it to happen but its never going to happen in my life time :(
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A few years ago i would have agreed with you on that ... but now World Governments are broke , They need money big time , I have no doubt that they are watching the US trend to see if the Prop 19 takes hold and gets votes in 2012 .... If things change in the US .... the rest of the world will fall into place .

Heres the thing though , They can't be seen to be backtracking .... they want to do it .... but have to do it in a way that makes it look medical , All the lies and propaganda that the public has been fed can't be ignored ....so they have to introduce new thinking to the gen public and sway them towards seeing it as a medical move rather than an attempt to make money via tax .

Also worth pointing out is .... They like Us to ask for changes so it can look like public opinion rather than them backtracking ... The wording of the home office is easy to read between the lines .

The fact that people of status are talking about it ...and the figures show that the laws are not working and in most cases just making things worse is a good standpoint for a rethink .


I know lot's of people don't want to see change ....most drug dealers lke things the way they are and would rather take the risks attached .... than see laws changed and effect ther incomes .... i have no problem with that ....but i do have a problem with people being jailed for growing ...selling ...and consuming a plant thats been surrounded by lies and evil due to the stupid laws .
 
WeedFreak78

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Nitro1990 said:
i think they should legalize it and then control supply from them drug dealers and criminals to a goverment produced product with no harmful chemicals and toxins in the weed so then it will be safe
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I'll admit I don't know much about UK government,but here in the USA I don't want our government having anything to do with my cannabis.Legalize it for personal use,to be grown by the user or join a non-profit collective(ok a little Govt. oversight on this) for those who don't/won't/can't grow.
 
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Nitro1990 said:
the uk drug laws will not change no matter how many signatures they get you could have the whole population of Britain saying legalize it and they wont Mr Cameron is totally Anti-Drug we need labour back in if we want a drug reform as they wanted to semi legalize cannabis before Gordon brownie resigned as prime rib roast minister

i think they should legalize it and then control supply from them drug dealers and criminals to a goverment produced product with no harmful chemicals and toxins in the weed so then it will be safe
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This is a call for a " review of the effectiveness of current drug policies " .... The laws are not working .... its costing them money ...and everyone knows the laws are pointless as people will still grow ..sell and consume cannabis . This is different to calling for it to be legalized ... this is to point out that the current laws are just not working .
 
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WeedFreak78 said:
I'll admit I don't know much about UK government,but here in the USA I don't want our government having anything to do with my cannabis.Legalize it for personal use,to be grown by the user or join a non-profit collective(ok a little Govt. oversight on this) for those who don't/won't/can't grow.
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lol yeah ...i have to agree ..... Letting them " Control " it is NOT what we need ... infact ... fuck that !... it would not be long before they are adding shit to it to make it " Safer " .... like fluoride in water ....pffft :)
 
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Here is a list of some of the people calling for change ..

Commissioners

» Asma Jahangir
- human rights activist, former UN Special Rapporteur on Arbitrary, Extrajudicial and Summary Executions, Pakistan

» Carlos Fuentes
- writer and public intellectual, Mexico

» César Gaviria
- former President of Colômbia

» Ernesto Zedillo
- former President of México

» Fernando Henrique Cardoso
- former President of Brazil (chair)

» George Papandreou
- Prime Minister of Greece

» George Shultz
- former Secretary of State, United States (honorary chair)

» Javier Solana
- former European Union High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Spain

» John Whitehead
- banker and civil servant, chair of the World Trade Center Memorial, United States

» Kofi Annan
- former Secretary General of the United Nations, Ghana

» Louise Arbour
- former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, president of the International Crisis Group, Canada

» Maria Cattaui
- Member of the Board, Petroplus Holdings; former Secretary-General of the International Chamber of Commerce, Switzerland

» Marion Caspers-Merk
- former State Secretary at the German Federal Ministry of Health, Germany

» Mario Vargas Llosa
- writer and public intellectual, Peru

» Michel Kazatchkine
- executive director of the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, France

» Paul Volcker
- former Chairman of the US Federal Reserve and of the Economic Recovery Board, US

» Richard Branson
- entrepreneur, advocate for social causes, founder of the Virgin Group, cofounder of The Elders, United Kingdom

» Ruth Dreifuss
- former President of Switzerland and Minister of Home Affairs

» Thorvald Stoltenberg
- former Minister of Foreign Affairs and UN High Commissioner for Refugees, Norway
 
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"The Global Commission will present its conclusions to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon in New York, on 2 June. The event will be accompanied by a major international campaign led by Avaaz, which aims to gather 500,000 signatures for its new petition 'End the war on drugs!' by 2 June.

IDPC has been actively supportive of the work of the Global Commission since its inception.

http://www.idpc.net/alerts/global-commission-drug-policy-to-present-conclusions-to-ban-ki-moon
 
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Nitro1990 said:
the uk drug laws will not change no matter how many signatures they get you could have the whole population of Britain saying legalize it and they wont Mr Cameron is totally Anti-Drug we need labour back in if we want a drug reform as they wanted to semi legalize cannabis before Gordon brownie resigned as prime rib roast minister

i think they should legalize it and then control supply from them drug dealers and criminals to a goverment produced product with no harmful chemicals and toxins in the weed so then it will be safe
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Yeah - I agree. Funny [or not] how the BBC just happened to start showing repeats of "Cannabis - What's the Harm?" yesterday. Timing very suspect indeed. Freeking propaganda puppets.


Governments lost the chance of spinning a face saving excuse for legalization many years ago. Now they'd have admit that they were so unbelievably wrong all the time (a point made a few post's back). Something that's blatantly obvious to everyone else with half a brain. But I do feel that momentum is building considerably and there might still be a chance of a turning point. They can't ignore it forever. And what about Obama? Surely he has to come out and say something substantial this year what with that big pending case in Canada and those pending cases in the US just waiting to expose the constitutional abuse that's been going on over there? The longer he says nothing about this the more stupid, weak and pathetic he appears IMO.
 
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Street dealers aside, do you have any idea how much money the "drug war" lines the pockets of 'legal' multi-national corporations with? Do you think 'they' care that people are being imprisoned? Prison is a huge business. And how many people do you suppose are on the payroll of the 'Justice' Department, Border Patrol, DEA, local law enforcement 'drug task-force' teams, et al specifically to go after drug users and dealers? If all of that went it away, a lot of them would be out of a job... or they'd have to take a more difficult (however more logical and rewarding) one within the department like going after real thieves, murderers, rapists, cyber criminals, etc. Then there is all of the additional funding that anti-drug programs provide. The DARE program for instance, provides additional funding for the police department which sends the officers to local elementary schools to strike fear and bullshit into the hearts of children who wont even get the urge to use drugs until they are much older.

These people have a lot of power. They can kick in your door and point very dangerous weapons at you and your family over the possibility that some material, somewhere, just might be mind altering in a manner in which they don't approve. In the USA it is easy enough to take the voting power away from a large segment of their population merely by convicting you of a felonious drug crime. The people who have lots of money and power can even sell enormous quantities of illegal drugs themselves with little fear of appraisal in order to accumulate even more money. Drug testing is an industry. Alcoholic beverages are big, and the alcohol industry would rather everybody drank beer or hard liquor (responsibly) when they want to feel different or get laid. They just couldn't compete and they know it.
 
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Nullis said:
Street dealers aside, do you have any idea how much money the "drug war" lines the pockets of 'legal' multi-national corporations with? Do you think 'they' care that people are being imprisoned? Prison is a huge business. And how many people do you suppose are on the payroll of the 'Justice' Department, Border Patrol, DEA, local law enforcement 'drug task-force' teams, et al specifically to go after drug users and dealers? If all of that went it away, a lot of them would be out of a job... or they'd have to take a more difficult (however more logical and rewarding) one within the department like going after real thieves, murderers, rapists, cyber criminals, etc. Then there is all of the additional funding that anti-drug programs provide. The DARE program for instance, provides additional funding for the police department which sends the officers to local elementary schools to strike fear and bullshit into the hearts of children who wont even get the urge to use drugs until they are much older.

These people have a lot of power. They can kick in your door and point very dangerous weapons at you and your family over the possibility that some material, somewhere, just might be mind altering in a manner in which they don't approve. In the USA it is easy enough to take the voting power away from a large segment of their population merely by convicting you of a felonious drug crime. The people who have lots of money and power can even sell enormous quantities of illegal drugs themselves with little fear of appraisal in order to accumulate even more money. Drug testing is an industry. Alcoholic beverages are big, and the alcohol industry would rather everybody drank beer or hard liquor (responsibly) when they want to feel different or get laid. They just couldn't compete and they know it.
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Good points although I believe the alcohol industry would much prefer people to drink irresponsibly. More profit.
 
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Nullis said:
Street dealers aside, do you have any idea how much money the "drug war" lines the pockets of 'legal' multi-national corporations with? Do you think 'they' care that people are being imprisoned? Prison is a huge business. And how many people do you suppose are on the payroll of the 'Justice' Department, Border Patrol, DEA, local law enforcement 'drug task-force' teams, et al specifically to go after drug users and dealers? If all of that went it away, a lot of them would be out of a job... or they'd have to take a more difficult (however more logical and rewarding) one within the department like going after real thieves, murderers, rapists, cyber criminals, etc. Then there is all of the additional funding that anti-drug programs provide. The DARE program for instance, provides additional funding for the police department which sends the officers to local elementary schools to strike fear and bullshit into the hearts of children who wont even get the urge to use drugs until they are much older.

These people have a lot of power. They can kick in your door and point very dangerous weapons at you and your family over the possibility that some material, somewhere, just might be mind altering in a manner in which they don't approve. In the USA it is easy enough to take the voting power away from a large segment of their population merely by convicting you of a felonious drug crime. The people who have lots of money and power can even sell enormous quantities of illegal drugs themselves with little fear of appraisal in order to accumulate even more money. Drug testing is an industry. Alcoholic beverages are big, and the alcohol industry would rather everybody drank beer or hard liquor (responsibly) when they want to feel different or get laid. They just couldn't compete and they know it.
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Good Post ... your right , This is the " Bigger Picture " and one that most people would refuse to believe... they make a shit load of money on the sidelines of what they call the drug war .

Also worth pointing out ... police are looking more like military every day ... the training ... equiptment they use ... tactics ... The story is much much bigger than what we are seeing .
 
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