Gorilla Bubble from Tonygreens Tortured Beans

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eastcoastmo

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I usually get tons of healthy roots in about 14 days with the diy bubble cloner. I feel temps during cloning and how the plants were fed before taking the clones. I prefer to clone in solo cups with 100% coco core because there seems to me to be a smother transition at transplant. The bubble cloner dose make for a bushier plant for some reason... :)
I tried cloning in 3 different mediums this time round...rockwool, eazy plugs and soil. The eazy plugs won hands down. Rooted within a week. The rockwool was second but I lost 2 to damping off and none of the soil rooted as it was in my supersoil mix lol. So I'll be stocking up on easy plugs from here :)
 

uNF DC

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I tried cloning in 3 different mediums this time round...rockwool, eazy plugs and soil. The eazy plugs won hands down. Rooted within a week. The rockwool was second but I lost 2 to damping off and none of the soil rooted as it was in my supersoil mix lol. So I'll be stocking up on easy plugs from here :)
Do you presoak rockwool in ~5ph water ahead of time? They're crazy high ph already and I've had trouble before I soak them down. After throwing them in ~5 water they're 5.8 in short while and ready for seeds, nearly 100% success.
 

Stonironi

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I tried cloning in 3 different mediums this time round...rockwool, eazy plugs and soil. The eazy plugs won hands down. Rooted within a week. The rockwool was second but I lost 2 to damping off and none of the soil rooted as it was in my supersoil mix lol. So I'll be stocking up on easy plugs from here :)
I get 100% with those root riot plugs . Get em wet and let em sit. Easy as that !!
 

eastcoastmo

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Do you presoak rockwool in ~5ph water ahead of time? They're crazy high ph already and I've had trouble before I soak them down. After throwing them in ~5 water they're 5.8 in short while and ready for seeds, nearly 100% success.
Nah mate, I just wet them before I put the cutting in. I used to when I grew in hydro but now I'm in soil, I don't bother.

I get 100% with those root riot plugs . Get em wet and let em sit. Easy as that !!
How good are they? My new favourite for sure!!
 

Stonironi

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I used to be good in rock wool, lately i water way to much, those plugs work good.
Ive had some success in straight dirt but if they drag get shit growing up the stem.
Ive just reverted to sticking cuts in a bottle of water ha!
I tried doing that with the water bottle but it never worked? But the moral of the story is whatever works for you, works for you! Thank god something works because I know some patients that cannot clone for anything ? I used to have problems until I found the root riot cubes. Cloners always seem to spread powdery mildew in my experiences anyways .
 

tonygreen

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One trick is if you do the water bottle or cup or vase or whatever, Do not give them low light!
Full sun!

I been taking a lot of notes a long the way. It seems the low light thing may have a few origins, one is the dome method or where people try to control perspiration, low light would make sense if you wanted to do that but I am not so sure it's the best way. Also useful in micro culture because strong light can destroy cells?

My theory is full light promotes active metabolism and also the growing tip produces hormones needed for rooting to occur. I usually take my time with my cuts because I am never in a rush but if i want them faster or if one is being stubborn and wont throw roots I throw it under the thouie and bam.

My cloning problems never come from not being able to maintain turgor pressure.
I never need a dome? One thing I always do is a full dry soil then a full watering and wait for her to fill up then take the cuts.
Usually my fucks ups are not monitoring temps or over watering carelessly then fungus or whatever ha.
 
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eastcoastmo

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I've done the glass of water method too but only when I didnt want them to root quickly ie. had a few months to kill but still wanted the clones. The low light is so you don't need to feed them.
Totally makes sense to have full light when needing the clones quickly though!
 

eastcoastmo

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I gotta a water cup clone of Blue Lime Pie I had rooting since summer started roots stupid long and still green. Not a dead cannibalized leaf on her. She's not super dark like if I just cut her but she green. I learned that low light trick off ICmag
That's unreal bro, I think I kept mine for a month like that. You're a fine example of just how long they can be kept for!
 

tonygreen

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Yea from my experience is low light helps them to not synthesize and grow thus keeping them more green. Once they start to synthesize and grow they need to be fed to keep the color which is why you see they yellowing as they are eating the stored food from the leaves
When I see that yellowing or eating a leaf it is usually a sign it shat out a root!
 
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