grafting plants

I know there are about 50 thousand different strands out there. any body have experience grafting plants ? I am thinking I could split 2 stems 2 different strands and put wire to hold the stem together to form 1 stem if you will then throw it into grow block or cube . can grafting be done this way or do I have to cut the top of a plant and connect the different plant to it that way . cloner seams like it would work best . but then again both plants will form roots and it will attach it self to each other to form 1 . what are your opinions ? please no newbies

Funny I was just reading about this yesterday.

Bose said:

Funny I was just reading about this yesterday.

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yeah once you have done every thing its time to mess around . northen lights x blueberry or northern lights x white widow . could have some serious potential an no waiting to form see,d blueberry and nl 2 of my favorites highest quality and together could be insane

wow so many possibilities , I think ill go this way . 2 plants 2 different pots all rooted ill cut the stems half way on both plants connect the stems with string wire so on wait to they form heal then cut the stem on 1 only rooted in 1 pot now making 1 major plant 2 different kinds .

this can definitely be done, but read up a little, you can't split a meristem and graft it to another meristem, you have to take branches(scions) and graft them to another trunk (the root). there are several techniques for this, i wouldn't try any of them if your root (trunk) is smaller around than your thumb. if your root is an inch across, you can graft about a pencil sized scion to it. if you have a branch in the right spot, i'd cut it off and butt graft to it, if theres no branch, plug graft.
i spent years on my grandpa's farm grafting citrus trees for him when his arthritis got bad.

oh yeah, forgot an important point, you have to have as much of the cambium layer of the scion in contact with the cambium layer of the root as possible for this to work, thats vital, so you have to make your cuts carefully

I successfully grafted two Jack H. limbs onto a NL and grafted the NL limbs to the JH.. Makes for some unusual
plants.. It takes a few trys to get it right.. Most failures were from mold.. Moist not wet...Have fun.. Good luck!

Roger A. Shrubber said:

oh yeah, forgot an important point, you have to have as much of the cambium layer of the scion in contact with the cambium layer of the root as possible for this to work, thats vital, so you have to make your cuts carefully

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This is where I fucked up... surgical cuts.. get a scalpel

HydoDan said:

I successfully grafted two Jack H. limbs onto a NL and grafted the NL limbs to the JH.. Makes for some unusual
plants.. It takes a few trys to get it right.. Most failures were from mold.. Moist not wet...Have fun.. Good luck!

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ok, but why did you do this? to see if you could? If i understand correctly the transplants dont gain anything from the host except some general growing characteristics. Ie, if you take a northern hardy apple tree and graft 4 different types of apple branches to it. the whole thing will be hardy and you will survive tougher winters, however each branch still grows independantly different breeds of apples that ripen at different times.

thats right. i did notice over years, citrus fruit will start to take on a lot of the characteristics of the root you graft it to, lemons grafted to an orange tree will start to develop pink/orangeish fruit, and more of an orange flavor, but it takes 3 or 4 years to even start showing up, weed has no time for that to happen

Growdict said:

ok, but why did you do this? to see if you could? If i understand correctly the transplants dont gain anything from the host except some general growing characteristics. Ie, if you take a northern hardy apple tree and graft 4 different types of apple branches to it. the whole thing will be hardy and you will survive tougher winters, however each branch still grows independantly different breeds of apples that ripen at different times.

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You got it ..Just to see if I could... I read an article about grafting hops onto cannabis for stealth grows.. It didn't make much sense but reminded me of a grafted Apple tree I saw as a kid... 5 different apples on one tree.. after a couple of successful grafts, my experiment ended.. It was a fun learning experience...

bryan oconner said:

yeah once you have done every thing its time to mess around . northen lights x blueberry or northern lights x white widow . could have some serious potential an no waiting to form see,d blueberry and nl 2 of my favorites highest quality and together could be insane

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I have that exact cross I made around a year or so ago.. turned out bomb... Blueberry x Northern Lights. Named her Northern Blueberry.

Has anyone ever thought about grafting old roots to new clone? Would a small plant be able to connect into the mass root system already alive and If it did would the extreme amount of roots kill the plant?

CanniHelpYou said:

Has anyone ever thought about grafting old roots to new clone? Would a small plant be able to connect into the mass root system already alive and If it did would the extreme amount of roots kill the plant?

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hmmmmmmmmmmmm. interesting . so a baby plant or clone would have a major root system monster yields . but if a person were to a dwc system those root systems are monsters any ways .

bryan oconner said:

hmmmmmmmmmmmm. interesting . so a baby plant or clone would have a major root system monster yields . but if a person were to a dwc system those root systems are monsters any ways .

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Never thought about doing it with DWC. hmm that sounds more realistic.

This is the cut I have grafted apples with, not sure if this would still be best with cannabis but worth a try. I strongly recommend a product called parafilm tape for grafting. The tape is stretchy and squeezes the graft tightly and disintegrates as the plants stalk gets bigger. The stuff is the best solution I have found for fixing broken limbs on cannabis.

https://www.amazon.com/Parafilm®-Grafting-Tape-Genuine-Clear/dp/B0085OFNVE

NaturalFarmer said:

This is the cut I have grafted apples with, not sure if this would still be best with cannabis but worth a try. I strongly recommend a product called parafilm tape for grafting. The tape is stretchy and squeezes the graft tightly and disintegrates as the plants stalk gets bigger. The stuff is the best solution I have found for fixing broken limbs on cannabis.



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Thanks for the tip! I will be using this tape along with a humid bag taped on the top and bottom.

I had blue's and jack herer grafted onto a exodus cheese mother,I have also Grafted,Cheese onto a Apple tree stem in the past just for a test,Pretty easy to do

I would still use Clone x,But when grafting i leave the clone in the clone x for a bout a hour or so,I found that by doing that it gave me far better taking to its new stem,Make Sure that you ring the grafted new section i used a blue, zip tie on the blues, section.Red one,on the jack i had that for a good few grow's then i just repeated,That was when i had about 4 different strains on the go,Now i'm down to two i just take clones just before i flower,and veg them till the ones in flower are done then repeat,during this time 8 week i just keep multi topping ever single top.

So i normally have a max of 4 plants on the go,I like to keep plant numbers low.In a legal situation i would just have mothers of each plant,I just cut a slit in the stem,and put clone x on it then cut the Clone so it slot's in,I found that the best stuff for holing the clone in place till it takes to the stem,was sea fishing elastic the stuff they use to bound crab's to a hook when sea fishing,Once you have done it added the new section then add a sealer bag over it and mist like you would a clone,You can still close the cord on the sealer bag,right up to the stem,Leave it on for 2/3 days after that just mist for no more than a week,After that no more misting make it work for moisture,By doing that it will take faster.

Make sure you use something to support the sealer bag,to the stem you are grafting to rather than the new clone supporting it,its a great way of having a few diff strains on the one plant.I have even flowered them after a while the main bulk is the main mother,the base plant but great to get a odd branch of a other strain .

Hope this helps tyke

I've done lots of Cannabis grafting and my take is there is not much to gain from doing it but it is a lot of fun. Grafted plants always attract attention and are great conversation starters if you have visitors to your grow.

First of all, Cannabis is very easy to graft when the plants are young and the stems are solid, flexible and non-woody. A bit more difficult as the plant ages, stems become woody and hollow. But overall, easy as far as grafting goes. Cannabis is considered an herbaceous plant, i.e. non-woody, even though it eventually develops distinctly woody stems. Herbaceous plants are, in general, easy to graft.

I would suggest an approach graft (http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/fact-sheets/in-the-garden/gardening-tips-books-techniques-and-tools/make-more-grevilleas) if you are grafting young plants. As NaturalFarmer suggested, Parafilm is your friend if you are grafting. I'll post more detail on approach grafting if there is some interest but the Grevillea page pretty much covers it. The only thing I do differently is to wrap the grafted area with parafilm.

I have also tried side veneer grafts. Side veneer is the most widely used graft in the ornamental plant world. For example every named variety of Japanese maple was probably propagated by a side veneer graft. This page has a complete rundown of grafting. Take a look at the photos of side veneer. All you need is a VERY sharp blade and parafilm. Side veneer is the graft of choice when grafting a small rooted cutting or seedling to a mature, woody plant or carcass. https://content.ces.ncsu.edu/grafting-and-budding-nursery-crop-plants.

I've also tried plug grafts but the hollow stems of adult plants allow plugs to dry out too quickly and success is limited.

As was suggested by someone above, grafting a young plant to the carcass of a harvested plant does produce rapid growth initially but in my experience a rooted cutting growing on its own matures just as fast and gets to be about the same size as a grafted cutting.

Photo one:
http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emulsion1/media/CIMG0070_zpsftszvupy.jpg.html

Photo one shows an infamous Herbies 'Afghani' that was harvested then used for my initial grafting experiments.
You can clearly see a healed side veneer graft just above the highest clothes pin. The two clothes pins are holding a poly bag in place over a plug graft. As a side note, these Afghanis always turned purple for me but the change came mostly after harvest.

Photo two: http://s46.photobucket.com/user/emulsion1/media/CIMG0071_zpsdjmrgtfm.jpg.html

Photo two shows a close up of a healed side veneer graft. You can see the 'veneer' of the stock (Afghani) plant to the right of the healed graft. The veneer and skin of the Afghani are dark green or purplish-green. The grafted plant which was Serious Happiness, is pale green. You can also see parafilm wrapped around the stem of the Afghani above the healed graft.