Grapes 13 hazeman
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thenotsoesoteric
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You guys hijacking my thread? Lol
If people are looking for grow advice I'll kindly point you to https://www.rollitup.org/f/general-marijuana-growing.39/
I'm not trying to be a dick but I'd rather not have a grow journal full of random grow tips and suggestions. You guys could PM each other or something. Cheers
If people are looking for grow advice I'll kindly point you to https://www.rollitup.org/f/general-marijuana-growing.39/
I'm not trying to be a dick but I'd rather not have a grow journal full of random grow tips and suggestions. You guys could PM each other or something. Cheers
thenotsoesoteric
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Thanks man. I'll be throwing them in the tent in a couple weeks for flowering.
thenotsoesoteric
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One of the 5 has some pistils showing. The plants are coming along but still could be doing better but shit happens. It's definitely my fault and not the seeds because even my clones are slow rolling even though as seedlings my clone were very fast and sturdy. 
I do have what appears to be a male, little nubs that soon turn into balls are showing. I plan on using the best males pollen on the females and my clones. I think I have better odds finding a nice grape stomper leaner from the f2s plus I want to cross my clones with a possible grape stomper gene, though be it small %.
I'll get pics when they're closer to flower.
I do have what appears to be a male, little nubs that soon turn into balls are showing. I plan on using the best males pollen on the females and my clones. I think I have better odds finding a nice grape stomper leaner from the f2s plus I want to cross my clones with a possible grape stomper gene, though be it small %.
I'll get pics when they're closer to flower.
thenotsoesoteric
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Ok so here's the scoop on this grow.
At first I had a cold snap and plants slowed and stunted so I warmed up the area but they still struggled. So I double checked the ph and it turned out I needed to adjust it when I thought it was cool, so I now am back to always checking ph. The girls started getting better but after a few solid days of perky leaves and new growth they started stalling again.
At this point I was perplexed so I decided to check the only other variables which was my fertilizers. I'm only using floranova and calmag for veg and my bottle of cal mag was over a year old and only 1/8 left in it plus the liquid was brown instead of Mt.Dew colored like it was new. Plants were also showing mag def big time as well so I decided that must be an issue. I also decided to just grab a new bottle of floranova along with a new bottle of calmag just to be safe because that bottle of FN has been open for well over a year too.
I flushed a couple plants with the new FN and calmag and those two plants responded great so friday I flushed all the rest and today they're looking a lot better and hopefully are back on track, god dammit.
Anyway I have 4 females and one male. The male will be spraying his seed on all the plants headed to flower next; 4xGrapes13, my berry wine cut, my orange cut and my purple cuts of my cross Miyagi. I may try to freeze some pollen too for later but maybe not.
The girls were looking much more sad two days ago and they're starting to look like they want come around.
The clones were hit the hardest but they're coming around too, slowly.
At first I had a cold snap and plants slowed and stunted so I warmed up the area but they still struggled. So I double checked the ph and it turned out I needed to adjust it when I thought it was cool, so I now am back to always checking ph. The girls started getting better but after a few solid days of perky leaves and new growth they started stalling again.
At this point I was perplexed so I decided to check the only other variables which was my fertilizers. I'm only using floranova and calmag for veg and my bottle of cal mag was over a year old and only 1/8 left in it plus the liquid was brown instead of Mt.Dew colored like it was new. Plants were also showing mag def big time as well so I decided that must be an issue. I also decided to just grab a new bottle of floranova along with a new bottle of calmag just to be safe because that bottle of FN has been open for well over a year too.
I flushed a couple plants with the new FN and calmag and those two plants responded great so friday I flushed all the rest and today they're looking a lot better and hopefully are back on track, god dammit.
Anyway I have 4 females and one male. The male will be spraying his seed on all the plants headed to flower next; 4xGrapes13, my berry wine cut, my orange cut and my purple cuts of my cross Miyagi. I may try to freeze some pollen too for later but maybe not.
The girls were looking much more sad two days ago and they're starting to look like they want come around.
The clones were hit the hardest but they're coming around too, slowly.
madininagyal
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I remember mine were a low eater , didn't like too much food
thenotsoesoteric
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I run really low ppm, 300-600 ppm all throughout veg and with these girls around 300ish. I'm pretty sure it was just bad cal/mag or floranova because since I flushed them with the new products they've all been doing well with leaves perked up.
But I will keep your advice in mind and keep an eye on them. Thanks
thenotsoesoteric
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Werd. The cold in my case ended up causing the soil to stay wet too long which combined with my ph being in the high 6 near 7 range which started off my woes. Then the fact I was using bad cal/mag or floranova meant total crap and a pain in my ass, lol.
I should have got a photo of my old cal/mag I poured out, it was brown and murky. Every since I flushed the girls with fresh new floranova and cal/mag the girls have been responding the way they should so I'm guessing that this was the issue all along. The fucked up thing that had me plexed was the plants in flower aren't showing any issue nor did they show any issues in veg even though I used the same products as this round. Fuck me sideways and call me Susan.
Cheers
thenotsoesoteric
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Definitely was the bad fertilizers, I'm fairly certain it was the wasted ass bottle of cal/mag that degraded or something because since the flush Friday night the girls have been happy and growing like weeds again. I just checked them after work today and for the 4th day they are standing tall with leaves up collecting light. So it should be on and cracking.
thenotsoesoteric
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Ten points to who ever gets my joke up above regarding the picture, no hints.
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For those following this grow I figured I'd post up a link to my first run of Miyagi, my cross, to illustrate why I was so pissed about this round and how the fucked up fertilizers cost me several weeks.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/critical-dream-star.862828/page-2
https://www.rollitup.org/t/critical-dream-star.862828/page-2
thenotsoesoteric
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The girls look like hell but they're going in to the flower tent in a day or two. My berry wine clone is really the only plant that came back 100% the rest are anywhere between 50-95%. I cut a couple clones off the 4 grapes and my berry wine and orange cut.
Berry wine is the tall girl in the back right corner and three grapes females to her left and 4th grp is right bottom corner. The male is the fucked up looking one left bottom row. I slacked on watering him but not too worry about the male, he'll serve his purpose even if he's a little bugged.
Berry wine is the tall girl in the back right corner and three grapes females to her left and 4th grp is right bottom corner. The male is the fucked up looking one left bottom row. I slacked on watering him but not too worry about the male, he'll serve his purpose even if he's a little bugged.
thenotsoesoteric
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I threw the girls in flower b=even though they still look affected by whatever the hell it is, it looks like mag def but I'm not positive. I'm thinking it maybe the bag of Tupur? I believe all the plants affected were in the latest bag I bought which was from a different shop than I normally visit and it may have been sitting in the shop for a while and the coco just got out of whack and I didn't charge the coco good enough. I don't f'ing know, lol.
I'll update as they flower out.
I'll update as they flower out.
thenotsoesoteric
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The girls have been in flower for about a week and all but 2 grapes have seemed to have gotten back on track the other two are whatever this round. BUt good news is all 4 grapes clones have busted roots so I can keep the best tasting/smell/frosted one and dial in the clone.
I really don't know why the run had such issues but 2 grapes have proven themselves less sensitive than the other 2.
The grapes are top left corner, middle and the 2 on the right from the front. The middle right grapes is a nice big girl that if I could have dialed her in would have been the largest plant by far. My berry wine is front left, orange cut is middle back, and my runt cut is back right but she will probably get cut.
I really don't know why the run had such issues but 2 grapes have proven themselves less sensitive than the other 2.
The grapes are top left corner, middle and the 2 on the right from the front. The middle right grapes is a nice big girl that if I could have dialed her in would have been the largest plant by far. My berry wine is front left, orange cut is middle back, and my runt cut is back right but she will probably get cut.
thenotsoesoteric
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These two plants have been unhappy for a while, first they're too dry even though they're not even dry so I water them with good runoff so there is oxygenated water for the roots. The two perk up and look happy for a day or two and the start to curl under like their water logged, lol. All the other plants have snapped back and look descent and all the grapes 13 clones have busted roots so if one of the sad girls has the flavor and resin I'm looking for I'll try to dial in the clone.
#1 and #3, 1 is tall plant on right 3 is left
This is #2, she is healthiest looking of the girl, short and busy with a lot of side branching, I'd guess hashplant/g13 learner
This is #4, she is taller lankier so I'm hoping grapestomper leaner (fingers crossed), she is healthy green and stretching a lot
Here is my male, which has been cut in half otherwise it would be 2x as tall, has a sweet sugar smell from stem rub (all the females have a muskier none sweet smell)
#1 and #3, 1 is tall plant on right 3 is left
This is #2, she is healthiest looking of the girl, short and busy with a lot of side branching, I'd guess hashplant/g13 learner
This is #4, she is taller lankier so I'm hoping grapestomper leaner (fingers crossed), she is healthy green and stretching a lot
Here is my male, which has been cut in half otherwise it would be 2x as tall, has a sweet sugar smell from stem rub (all the females have a muskier none sweet smell)
thenotsoesoteric
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The male that is going to bone his sisters.
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The grapes are starting to form buds so I should be able to get some smells off them soon. I may have waited a few days too long for the male, I'm hoping he'll be ready to squirt some pollen here in a week and a half or so.
Edit: Also I think all the issued I have with the grapes 13 during veg was because the bag of tupur I had used for those plants. At first I thought it was the cold, then my nutrients but after all those avenues only helped and didn't get me back to where the girls should be I figured it must be something with the tupur.
Well I was right, it was either just old and have dried out to much and needed to be reconditioned or something else because it just didn't perform like tupur normally does for me. So I went and got a new bag, threw out the 1/4 bag I had left, and put my clones in rockwool into the new tupur 3 days ago and those girls are already vegging strong with strong green new leaves, like tupur should.
Edit: Also I think all the issued I have with the grapes 13 during veg was because the bag of tupur I had used for those plants. At first I thought it was the cold, then my nutrients but after all those avenues only helped and didn't get me back to where the girls should be I figured it must be something with the tupur.
Well I was right, it was either just old and have dried out to much and needed to be reconditioned or something else because it just didn't perform like tupur normally does for me. So I went and got a new bag, threw out the 1/4 bag I had left, and put my clones in rockwool into the new tupur 3 days ago and those girls are already vegging strong with strong green new leaves, like tupur should.
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