Green House Seeds Smoke Off!

So i've always been intrigued by Neville's Haze. The guy who told me about it said that its a true beauty and super strong. The only problem is it's apparently very hard too grow.
Well the new breeder for Green House has come out with his own version, Arjan's Haze.
What im wondering if anybody knows the true genetics of Arjan's Haze and which one you think is better in terms of potency and ease of growth.

Neville and Shantibaba were in with Arjan with GHSC then Neville and Shantibaba took their genetics and when to Mr. Nice apparently they were having troubles with arjan and wanted to get outa business with him. Now that said not really sure of Arjan's genetics never really gave him a fart in a whirlwind (use to look at the videos and be impressed now im just meh since i know the history) i mean i dont know if his genetics are good or not i just know his business method is quite shady and i dont like shady ppl

Personally, In consideration that I only grow TGA for a reason now....All I can say is that my exp. with GHSC was trash. I have grown Kings Kush and Super Silver Haze. Kush anything is not something I really enjoy at all, and the Silver haze while it was potent its was weed Id give to my dog instead of smoke if I got TGA available...which I do...all day, every day I think someone went more for marketing than for quality. I have also smoked Arjan's Haze and Neville's Haze and they both were extremely weak in comparisson to anything TGA

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

Personally, In consideration that I only grow TGA for a reason now....All I can say is that my exp. with GHSC was trash. I have grown Kings Kush and Super Silver Haze. Kush anything is not something I really enjoy at all, and the Silver haze while it was potent its was weed Id give to my dog instead of smoke if I got TGA available...which I do...all day, every day I think someone went more for marketing than for quality. I have also smoked Arjan's Haze and Neville's Haze and they both were extremely weak in comparisson to anything TGA

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Wow, thats a let down... I've been wanting to grow/try neville's haze for years. So it really wasnt potent huh? Damn
Whats TGA stand for? Do they deliver to the United States of America?

Unnk said:

Neville and Shantibaba were in with Arjan with GHSC then Neville and Shantibaba took their genetics and when to Mr. Nice apparently they were having troubles with arjan and wanted to get outa business with him. Now that said not really sure of Arjan's genetics never really gave him a fart in a whirlwind (use to look at the videos and be impressed now im just meh since i know the history) i mean i dont know if his genetics are good or not i just know his business method is quite shady and i dont like shady ppl

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I've heard that the split up between Neville and Arjan wasnt happy, but i didnt know neville went to Mr. Nice. It sounds like youve tried nevilles haze, have you? If so could you give me a short analysis? Have you tried any of nevilles new strains? Are there any?
You know, it try to keep business and politics out of my decision making process, but you make a good point. I dont want to give a shady company owner my business either.

If you havent heard of TGA Subcool yet I will guess that you have been under a rock for years Do some research...Hes a true breeder. A king of Genetics. A Green Avenger Redeeming Potency my friend. I promise you cant go wrong with any of his gear. All his genetics are available through The Attitude Seed Bank which delivers worldwide

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

If you havent heard of TGA Subcool yet I will guess that you have been under a rock for years Do some research...Hes a true breeder. A king of Genetics. A Green Avenger Redeeming Potency my friend. I promise you cant go wrong with any of his gear. All his genetics are available through The Attitude Seed Bank which delivers worldwide

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hah, thanks man. Ill look into it. Ive heard of attitude seed but I didnt trust them at first glance in their ad in high times for some reason.

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

If you havent heard of TGA Subcool yet I will guess that you have been under a rock for years Do some research...Hes a true breeder. A king of Genetics. A Green Avenger Redeeming Potency my friend. I promise you cant go wrong with any of his gear. All his genetics are available through The Attitude Seed Bank which delivers worldwide

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king of genetics ??? a true breeder ???? he just cross's other peoples work !! same as sweet seeds and many others !! not sayin he cant make a good cross but come on tga is no sensi seeds !!!

hes no dj short

hes no simon from seriouse !!

Beansly said:

Wow, thats a let down... I've been wanting to grow/try neville's haze for years. So it really wasnt potent huh? Damn
Whats TGA stand for? Do they deliver to the United States of America?



I've heard that the split up between Neville and Arjan wasnt happy, but i didnt know neville went to Mr. Nice. It sounds like youve tried nevilles haze, have you? If so could you give me a short analysis? Have you tried any of nevilles new strains? Are there any?
You know, it try to keep business and politics out of my decision making process, but you make a good point. I dont want to give a shady company owner my business either.

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I only grew 3 tga subcool strains, and those strains are the dankest ones i've grown... Flav vortex & Jack the ripper.

kingcapo123 said:

king of genetics ??? a true breeder ???? he just cross's other peoples work !! same as sweet seeds and many others !! not sayin he cant make a good cross but come on tga is no sensi seeds !!!

hes no dj short

hes no simon from seriouse !!

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Remember, to truely breed a strain from scratch, you have to first recreate the big bang.

kingcapo123 said:

king of genetics ??? a true breeder ???? he just cross's other peoples work !! same as sweet seeds and many others !! not sayin he cant make a good cross but come on tga is no sensi seeds !!!

hes no dj short

hes no simon from seriouse !!

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Your absolutely right....Hes far greater than those. Sorry to hear you dont believe such but there is a reason this guy has a legion of followers. There a reason this guy has come as far as he has and hasnt fallen off like those clowns. There is a reason this guy has won as many awards as he has ( far more greater than the combine simon and dj short)....Theres a reason this guys genetics sells out quicker than any other! Theres a reason Sub is coming out with new DANK gear and not breeding the same shit over and over! I think u need to read up more on Sub before you falsly say he just crosses other peoples work.....Theres alot more that goes into the making of TRUE DANK than just that false assumptions!

Name one strain of DJ shorts that can( or has lab analysis showing it has) produce up to at least 17% THC??????????????? There is'nt one!!!
Name one strain of Simon's that can(or has lab analysis showing it has) produce up to at least 17% THC????????????????? There is'nt one!!!

The difference between DANK and SHWAG is in the pudding. Its in the lab analysis that show whos DANK is supreme!!! Ontop of THC Content, there is another reason this guy has an empire! Its bar none, the tastiest DANK that most have ever smoked. I am sure that anyone who has a fair knowledge of subcool will tell you its the POTENCY and THE EFFECTS of HIS DANK that makes the DIFFERENCE!

While I can respect DJ Short and Simon for what they have contributed to Cannabis, they are by no means any comparison to TGA. Leave it to Sensi to offer bullshit packs of "Indoor Mix" WTF IS THAT...or hows about "Outdoor Mix"....AGAIN WTF IS THAT? Do some research, there are far more people complaning about QUALITY OF GENETICS in regards to SENSI seeds in comparisson to TGA. TO my knowledge, I havent meet one person who shits on TGA....Guess your the lone sheep Enjoy your "Outdoor Mix"

Dj Short has 9 strains. Technically 8 cause one is discontinued. Dj Short is most notable for his "Blueberry" strain which seems to be as common as toliet tissue. Hell he has two blueberry strains...One called " True Blueberry"????? WTF Seriously? Sensi....I think most know what hacks these guys are if you even consider them a breeder. Most consider then a seed producer...They are not worthy of the title Breeder...Let alone Breeder of DANK!

Are you serious kid.White russian and ak 47.Till this day serious seeds white russian is still one of the highest thc plants and one of the strongest.
Not saying tga is bad but he does have alot of strains from other peoples work.

Beansly said:

So i've always been intrigued by Neville's Haze. The guy who told me about it said that its a true beauty and super strong. The only problem is it's apparently very hard too grow.
Well the new breeder for Green House has come out with his own version, Arjan's Haze.
What im wondering if anybody knows the true genetics of Arjan's Haze and which one you think is better in terms of potency and ease of growth.

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I grew arjans haze #3 good plant yeild was good.Long flowertime and smoke was not something i would recommend.

tardis said:

Remember, to truely breed a strain from scratch, you have to first recreate the big bang.

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Great point about the big bang

@BerryWidow....Not saying Serious or DJ dont have some comendable strains. However, they is no PROOF....ASk them to show LAB ANALYSIS....They no speaky english all of a sudden. Anything that they say is typically marketing propaganda. Sub has all his proof in the pudding. Every breeders work comes from somewhere at some point along the lines. To say those guy havent used anyone elses work before is not accurate.

While Sensi has had some notarity with Ak47 and White Russian....They still have not surpassed the Certified Potency of TGA. Some sites say White Russian is 17 others say 22 ( yeah right)....However Serious has no paper work...call...ask THe Attitude.... White Russian won the cannabis cup ( bunch a bs) in 1996 for White Russian in which they said that they grew over 150 different strains and this came out the highest potency. I have had White Russian and it was very comendable. Certianly made me high as a monkey However, its still no comparisson to TGA gear...Sorry, it is what it is....I call it like I see it...

Ak-47 is some bomb stuff....No doubt. Another strain that can get you as High as a Monkey But there is so much bullshit out there about the strain. Sensi first said that the strain had 27% THC...( RIIIIGGGGHHHTTTT)....Then they subtracted that and said that it comes in at 17-20%....Seems like a bunch of.....BULL

I like TGA more because of the Proof in the Pudding and the Effects. The guy is a no bullshit guy. He does not Bullshit and con his way into peoples bank account. hes not in it for the money. Hell most of his career he GAVE HIS GEAR AWAY....Unlike most breeders who start out selling shit gear. Hes the REAL McCOY as I like to call it! Theres no BULLSHIT behind Subs Gear. No need for Propaganda or mistaken THC contents! Lastly, YOU CANT BLAME SUB for the price of his GEAR....The Attitude ( and other seed banks he sells to) are RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE....IF you KNEW SUB and perhaps asked him, you would know that hes not becoming a Millionare making seeds!

Over the years, I have come to think of Dutch Genetics as just shitstain gear. I am not a big fan of most if any kush's. I am certianly not liking ANYTHING Greenhouse Seeds has put out ( and I think that those who respect DANK...can concur). I go for TASTE, and POTENCY ( EFFECT).....However, To each their own

tardis said:

I only grew 3 tga subcool strains, and those strains are the dankest ones i've grown... Flav vortex & Jack the ripper.

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Well like you said its the dankest you grown.I bet you can find something danker/better probably for cheaper.
But what you like i might not.To each is own.

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

Your absolutely right....Hes far greater than those. Sorry to hear you dont believe such but there is a reason this guy has a legion of followers. There a reason this guy has come as far as he has and hasnt fallen off like those clowns. There is a reason this guy has won as many awards as he has ( far more greater than the combine simon and dj short)....Theres a reason this guys genetics sells out quicker than any other! Theres a reason Sub is coming out with new DANK gear and not breeding the same shit over and over! I think u need to read up more on Sub before you falsly say he just crosses other peoples work.....Theres alot more that goes into the making of TRUE DANK than just that false assumptions!

Name one strain of DJ shorts that can( or has lab analysis showing it has) produce up to at least 17% THC??????????????? There is'nt one!!!
Name one strain of Simon's that can(or has lab analysis showing it has) produce up to at least 17% THC????????????????? There is'nt one!!!

The difference between DANK and SHWAG is in the pudding. Its in the lab analysis that show whos DANK is supreme!!! Ontop of THC Content, there is another reason this guy has an empire! Its bar none, the tastiest DANK that most have ever smoked. I am sure that anyone who has a fair knowledge of subcool will tell you its the POTENCY and THE EFFECTS of HIS DANK that makes the DIFFERENCE!

While I can respect DJ Short and Simon for what they have contributed to Cannabis, they are by no means any comparison to TGA. Leave it to Sensi to offer bullshit packs of "Indoor Mix" WTF IS THAT...or hows about "Outdoor Mix"....AGAIN WTF IS THAT? Do some research, there are far more people complaning about QUALITY OF GENETICS in regards to SENSI seeds in comparisson to TGA. TO my knowledge, I havent meet one person who shits on TGA....Guess your the lone sheep Enjoy your "Outdoor Mix"

Dj Short has 9 strains. Technically 8 cause one is discontinued. Dj Short is most notable for his "Blueberry" strain which seems to be as common as toliet tissue. Hell he has two blueberry strains...One called " True Blueberry"????? WTF Seriously? Sensi....I think most know what hacks these guys are if you even consider them a breeder. Most consider then a seed producer...They are not worthy of the title Breeder...Let alone Breeder of DANK!

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he has lots of fans coz hes a forum queen ! he posts everywere!!! and he gives his buyers a sense of appreciation !!! a connection with there seller !!! that special touch ! he grooms you in a way

and wait there a min hes won more awards and sells more seeds than sensi ????

get real you cant even get his seeds on half the sites i look at !

i dont wanna be rude but your talkin out of your arse !

you sound almost brain washed !!!!

to the point were you come off almost fanatical !!!#


the kid can make a good cross yeah !!! but like i said hes just doin what anyone could do !!!! buy a pack of jack herer from sensi grow them out and cross them with other strains from other breeders !!!

hes another sweet seeds good at what they do but ................................ IT IS WHAT IT IS !

does TGA not make Fem seeds?

punkgrower420 said:

does TGA not make Fem seeds?

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nope.no fems only reg packs for now.

TGA is an excellent source for genetics. I don't want to get put down or attacked and I won't put you down for liking another breeder. Truth is, I wanted to dabble else where and found myself wanting to order some Vortex and Qleaner again. Subcool knows his breeding.

Greenhouse strains i grew were arjans haze#3,super lemon haze and white widow.The only 1 i did not like was arjans haze but the slh and ww were great smoke.So i cant really say all of their work is bad but i plan on trying ghs bubba kush real soon after my all kush grow.

HowzerMD said:

TGA is an excellent source for genetics. I don't want to get put down or attacked and I won't put you down for liking another breeder. Truth is, I wanted to dabble else where and found myself wanting to order some Vortex and Qleaner again. Subcool knows his breeding.

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Yes tga is a good breeder but he is not the best.In fact I want a pack of querkle and something else from him mostly indica(not deep purple)what would you tga growers recommend?