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kingcapo123 said:

cheaper than most ??? what planet are you on hes chargeing 60 british pounds for 10 reg seeds !! hes chargeing top prices !!!
and im just a realist !! british understatment ( realisum ) !!!

american version ............... hes the grestest off all times! hes a god ! unbelivable man !!! this dude rules the world of cannabiss mannnnnnnn cali weed is best in world man !! ect ect !!!

britsh version ..................... he makes some good cross's but so do numurus other breeders !!

smarten up !!!

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That is not true at all. Subcool is not responsible for the price of his gear. He makes a bare minimum. At max 3 per seed, so thirty bucks a pack. Blame attitude for the high prices. Or perhaps more realisticly, supply and demand. Hes a human, far from a god, IMO, but he is really consistently great at what he does. I hate to see those who hate on him and have two plants growing in their back yard. Until you undertake a journey similar to his exp. I dont think its all that accurately fair to say all he does is cross abc to xyz. IMO, he puts information on the web and forums to show people hes not hiding anything. Hes not in the marketing business. I cant think of two many breeders that get on the internet and show the ins and outs of what they do. IMO, when breeders hide information its general for a reason

stonedmetalhead1 said:

Why the hatred? Sounds like someone's jealous. Subcool is just a guy that produces some amazing hybrids. It's kind of lame that you say he's good at what he does and you plan on buying his gear then bash him. Have you grown out any white russian lately, it's weak! It smells so-so, tastes average and bland, and isn't that potent. While I haven't grown out every strain known to man I have grown out well over 100 and Subs gear seems consistently better than most. You can't knock a guy for having good genetics, breeding with em', and selling them cheaper than most. There are plenty of good breeders out there and Sub's one of em'. I don't understand why people get upset when someone gives a good review on Sub, he has good genetics and he's a stand up guy. Get over yourself "King" capo(someone thinks highly of them self). Who are you to bash anyone?

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ALthough I dont see how he can call him a maggot and then turn around and say he respects him as a breeder ( IMO, he has hate on his agenda)....I can say that White Russian has always been a backseater for me. It doesnt have a taste that is comparable to anything of subs gear, IMO....And the potency is subpar, IMO. I am not saying it wont get you fucked up, but it certianly wont make it to something I wish to smoke everyday. I have grown every single strain of TGA minus Cheese Quake, and Qrazy Train ( ordered a pack each all ready)....I have never ever once had a hermie, Lab anaylsis shows the dank is strictly consistent with very high THC% and his gear stay's super genetics.

Not to hate on GHSC, but I have grown a ten pack of fem Super Silver haze and a Ten pack of Kings Kush. Neither were as potent as the hype said, IMO...and the rate of hermie was 1 for every 4 seeds. Moreso, I had 2 males and only one pheno. My biggest issue was that none of the plants were consistent. None of the Kings kush looked similar or the same. This could have been Attitudes problem, but I chalk it up to just bunk weed. Taste kings kush was so-so and Haze was actually enjoyable, but certianly a aquired taste I have allso grown DJ Shorts True Blueberry and had very bad inconsistencies. None of the plants looked the same and certianly all tasted akwardly different. I did have great pleasure and sucess with FLO....That shit was Superb bud that I would certianly grow or smoke again....SO, IDK....The GHSC/DJ SHORT/Sensi Seeds gear seems to have alot of issues and inconsistencies. Personal a breeder that sells "Indoor Mix, or Outdoor Mix" is attempting to be a marketer rather than a breeder . I dont really hear people complaining about TGA gear. If anything its random people who just utterly hate on him for reasons unrelated to his gear. I believe if they were to take a minute to get to actually know him, they would learn he is a stand up dude that has a great unsatisfiable desire for DANK

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

That is not true at all. Subcool is not responsible for the price of his gear. He makes a bare minimum. At max 3 per seed, so thirty bucks a pack. Blame attitude for the high prices. Or perhaps more realisticly, supply and demand. Hes a human, far from a god, IMO, but he is really consistently great at what he does. I hate to see those who hate on him and have two plants growing in their back yard. Until you undertake a journey similar to his exp. I dont think its all that accurately fair to say all he does is cross abc to xyz. IMO, he puts information on the web and forums to show people hes not hiding anything. Hes not in the marketing business. I cant think of two many breeders that get on the internet and show the ins and outs of what they do. IMO, when breeders hide information its general for a reason

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well the prices are the same across the board !!!! every site the same so there most be a price structure !!! a.... r.r.p !!! set by subcool !!
end of the day he wants to make money out of it !! otherwize he would give them away for free just for the love of the people !!
just for the love of the weed !! hes a capitalist hes no diff from arjan from greenhouse !!! 2 of the same !!!

its a bissness !!

See that is where I can tell you know nothing about subcool. He has been giving seeds away for twenty YEARS! HE STILL GIVES THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF BEANERS AWAY every YEAR!!!! He is truely not in it at all for money. I assure you he never makes more than 3$ a seed on a pack of 10 EVER! Moreso, ASK AROUND, TAKE A LOOK AROUND....HEs got HOW MANY TESTERS???? HE gives those beans away. He gives beans away all the time, and I can atest to that. That is how he started getting the word out about TGA...GIVING SEEDS AWAY.....I agree that ARJAN is a MARKETER and a CAPITALIST...But to compare sub to him is blindly wrong! ITS NOT THE CASE, NEVER HAS BEEN, NOR WILL IT EVER. I dont mean to take a defense for sub, but I appreciate the THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF SEEDS HE HAS GIVEN ME MORE FREE, THe countless HOURS HE HAS SPENT HELPING ME AND MY GROW, and I am POSITIVE MY THREE OTHER CLOSE GROWER FRIENDS ALSO APPRECIATE LIKEWISE what he has done for FREE for THEM!

Get informed about sub. Perhaps even ask him. Hes not a bullshitting con artist like arjan. hes a very down to earth dude that just cares about people having dank. I recommend you occupy the hate you have for someone you know nothing about with something more constructive. I dont think its logicalto take such close minded blind attacks on someones person when you know obviously very lil about him at all, unless you are just a hateful person by nature

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

See that is where I can tell you know nothing about subcool. He has been giving seeds away for twenty YEARS! HE STILL GIVES THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF BEANERS AWAY every YEAR!!!! He is truely not in it at all for money. I assure you he never makes more than 3$ a seed on a pack of 10 EVER! Moreso, ASK AROUND, TAKE A LOOK AROUND....HEs got HOW MANY TESTERS???? HE gives those beans away. He gives beans away all the time, and I can atest to that. That is how he started getting the word out about TGA...GIVING SEEDS AWAY.....I agree that ARJAN is a MARKETER and a CAPITALIST...But to compare sub to him is blindly wrong! ITS NOT THE CASE, NEVER HAS BEEN, NOR WILL IT EVER. I dont mean to take a defense for sub, but I appreciate the THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF SEEDS HE HAS GIVEN ME MORE FREE, THe countless HOURS HE HAS SPENT HELPING ME AND MY GROW, and I am POSITIVE MY THREE OTHER CLOSE GROWER FRIENDS ALSO APPRECIATE LIKEWISE what he has done for FREE for THEM!

Get informed about sub. Perhaps even ask him. Hes not a bullshitting con artist like arjan. hes a very down to earth dude that just cares about people having dank. I recommend you occupy the hate you have for someone you know nothing about with something more constructive. I dont think its logicalto take such close minded blind attacks on someones person when you know obviously very lil about him at all, unless you are just a hateful person by nature

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maybe im just cynical by nature but to me its just a bissness stratagy !! like i said in another post !!!

he gives the personal touch! so you feel part of it you feel hes your friend almost !!!

and that breeds loylty it breeds in people the loylty so they keep buyin subcool !!

thats one way he can stand out from the big boys thats one way he can give his brand something differnt !!!

you can actually speak direct to the breeder you can p.m him on differnt fourms !!

all of this is geared to sell seeds !!!




thats how i see it !!!


p.s soz about all the spelling mistakes little bit to high to care lol


and how can i hate someone when i have said im gunna buy his seeds and i respect his work !!

god your so sensitive !!!

kingcapo123 said:

maybe im just cynical by nature but to me its just a bissness stratagy !! like i said in another post !!!

he gives the personal touch! so you feel part of it you feel hes your friend almost !!!

and that breeds loylty it breeds in people the loylty so they keep buyin subcool !!

thats one way he can stand out from the big boys thats one way he can give his brand something differnt !!!

you can actually speak direct to the breeder you can p.m him on differnt fourms !!

all of this is geared to sell seeds !!!




thats how i see it !!!


p.s soz about all the spelling mistakes little bit to high to care lol


and how can i hate someone when i have said im gunna buy his seeds and i respect his work !!

god your so sensitive !!!

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Well I just dont find it fair to call him inappropriate names then turn around and say your going to purchase some of his gear. No he does not groom people. Hes a breeder, not a sicko, nor a whack job I agree each breeder has a neeed to do something different, thats just the business spectrum of the trade. However, I know subcool is not a business oriented person. He is all for the dank ..........Im not sensitive, I just dont have much tolerance to see people shit on someones persona without good justification. Hes never done nothing wrong to anyone I know, and I am sure he doesnt set out to wrong anyone Hes just a green avenger looking for the next best DANK

no matter what mixed there are always going to be someone who says they know better. What matters is you know what the man is alll about.

kingcapo123 said:

cheaper than most ??? what planet are you on hes chargeing 60 british pounds for 10 reg seeds !! hes chargeing top prices !!!
and im just a realist !! british understatment ( realisum ) !!!

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First of all it depends on where you get them. Most of the time it's the seed bank that marks the price up. I have 19 strains from TGA and I paid between $40 and $60 US a pack so yeah, they're cheap compared to most. I did get my TGA gear when he was still at Breedbay but you can still get them from Hemp Depot for $75 a pack and if you live in the states you can get them at med clubs for $60 a pack.

american version ............... hes the grestest off all times! hes a god ! unbelivable man !!! this dude rules the world of cannabiss mannnnnnnn cali weed is best in world man !! ect ect !!!

britsh version ..................... he makes some good cross's but so do numurus other breeders !!

smarten up !!!

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These are generalized statements made up in your own imagination and don't mean anything except that you have an inferiority complex.

( realisum ), numurus, chargeing, unbelivable, cannabiss, grestestm, cross's

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Word of advice, don't tell someone to smarten up if you can't even spell.

For the rest of the people I apologize for the redundancy concerning the content of this post but I responded to this ignorant drivel before I read the rest of the thread.

stonedmetalhead1 said:

First of all it depends on where you get them. Most of the time it's the seed bank that marks the price up. I have 19 strains from TGA and I paid between $40 and $60 US a pack so yeah, they're cheap compared to most.



These are generalized statements made up in your own imagination and don't mean anything except that you have an inferiority complex.



Word of advice. Don't tell someone to smarten up if you can't even spell.

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awww have i touched a nerv sweetie

you know what they say !!! the truth hurts !

I always thought that companies that sell indoor/outdoor mix are just trying to get rid of seed overstock. Shouldnt be counted against them.

your the absolute definition of what im talkin about !!

you have 19 strains by him thats great loylty aint it

all at 40 to 60 bucks a pack eh ........................... add it up and thats a nice piece of cake... no ? lol

kingcapo123 said:

awww have i touched a nerv sweetie

you know what they say !!! the truth hurts !

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So now that your losing an argument you're going to upgrade from being a troll to a belligerent troll? Way to go buddy.

tardis said:

Remember, to truely breed a strain from scratch, you have to first recreate the big bang.

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I think this is soooo true. I have seen Dutch Genetics, Subcools Genetics, etc, mentioned on this thread. I think we should all get one thing clear. It's Mother Natures Genetics, and actually, the original seeds are probably from a plant some farmer in Morocco, Afghanistan, Nepal, Thailand, or Africa grew. It makes me laugh a bit about how people almost think they have put some of their own genetics into a plant, all they have done is put a process into it and selected some plants to grow....(that is where the skill is) And in saying that, if you are making a career out of it, I would bloody hope you are good at spotting a nice plant with tite nodes and heavy resin production..... ffs.

Anyway, I am on a stoned rant. I dont like Greenhouse, I think I would rather try one of the others instead, just because there is too much bad vibes about the GH! I have smoked Nevilles Haze many moons ago in the Grey Area and I thought it was middle of the road...the Silver Bubble (Super Silver Haze based) is 10x better. However, all the bad about GH, HeadsUp on RIU rates Arjans Haze, and he smokes mainly Sativa. To each their own eh.

Peace, DST

kingcapo123 said:

your the absolute definition of what im talkin about !!

you have 19 strains by him thats great loylty aint it

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Dude, I've bought over a hundred different strains over the years and invest a lot of money to find what I'm looking for. I'm sorry if Sub's genetics as a whole have more flavor and potency than most. I also have a lot of strains from other breeders. I like quality I don't care where it comes from.

all at 40 to 60 bucks a pack eh ........................... add it up and thats a nice piece of cake... no ?

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Not compared to the dank I've gotten from the seeds and I wouldn't have continued to buy them if I didn't consistently get great results. Are you going to bash Shanti too, everyone loves his gear?

stonedmetalhead1 said:

Dude, I've bought over a hundred different strains over the years and invest a lot of money to find what I'm looking for. I'm sorry if Sub's genetics as a whole have more flavor and potency than most.

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hehe .............................. next please !!

kingcapo123 said:

haha see you love it really you love a heated disscussion !!

i think subs better supply me with some freebess i think thats the only way to defuse this !!!.................. i wanna be groomed !! i want to feel special lol

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" I want to feel special" I am sure you do!

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

" I want to feel special" I am sure you do!

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i do !!! and subs is the man to do it come on subs ..................... make me love you lol

i think 20 free jack the rippers might make my feelings grow

k i have not received 1 bit of free stuff from sub but as for his genetics i bought a JTR pack and its completely dominating anythign i have in my room from dna or dinafem i feel to this day of what ive had the pleasure of trying Sub is the best so far but like ive said ive only grown dina and DNA and their gear was good to me then untill the jtr came into the room

with subcool bein a moderator and a well known breeder i would hope he cares less what some random person who wasnt even smart enough to call himselves THEDON or KingDon WTF is a king capo anyway. Capo is a made man at best not a fuckin leader but let u tell it.. Ive seen subs work and im not a big sativa grower but his proof look str8 dank can u do better? Grow some dank and shut the fuck up

As for ghsc, ive grown one strain..AMS.. IT SUCKED SO BAD! but thats jus my opinon

smokeymcpotz said:

with subcool bein a moderator and a well known breeder i would hope he cares less what some random person who wasnt even smart enough to call himselves THEDON or KingDon WTF is a king capo anyway. Capo is a made man at best not a fuckin leader but let u tell it.. Ive seen subs work and im not a big sativa grower but his proof look str8 dank can u do better? Grow some dank and shut the fuck up

As for ghsc, ive grown one strain..AMS.. IT SUCKED SO BAD! but thats jus my opinon

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personaly i think i represent the thorts of alot of people !!! facts are everyones a cynic untile they are converted !!

all jokes aside i think it would be a good idea !!!

come on prove me wrong !! give me a few sample seeds i will grow them out and i will honesly give you my opinon !!!

i think it would also prove me wrong that sub is not all about the bottom line and he will even give seeds to his doubters !!!

would be something fresh !!! a grow report with a difference !